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Old 01-28-2018, 07:44 PM   #3301
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Why so negative?

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Old 01-29-2018, 12:44 AM   #3302
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I can't stand the janky digibook packaging of the UK set so I've been storing my BR 4K disc in the 5-disc case that I had for the Blu-ray SE version, but after getting some 3-disc UHD cases in (gracias amigo) I put the 4K, the workprint & extras disc and the 'archival versions' disc in there with the cover. It looks rather nice IMO, and not a ratings logo in sight! Yay! But it's in Spanish language! Boo! (Not that I have problem one with that but I know how people can be ).
Had a similar MacGyver idea myself by putting all three 30th Anniversary Edition discs along with the domestic 4K disc into the imported box set since I just like the sturdiness of it over the regular plastic case. I've wasted so much damn money on this one movie just to get the perfect package lol I swear to god. I'll never understand why Warner Bros. didn't just make this the package for the regular 4K release in the first place. 4 discs is 4 discs - why not just go with the ones that include literally everything instead of jerking your customers off?
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Old 01-29-2018, 01:17 AM   #3303
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Man, I HATE that new fire plume effect right at the start. It's just not the same. I noted several of those audio changes you mentioned in the post I've quoted below, so now I know it's not just me!! Did you catch the change to the music when Deckard steps onto his balcony wrapped in a sheet? In all the previous mixes the first cue fades out over the top of the next one as it starts, but in the new mix the first cue stops and then the next one starts.
I did not notice that one, you are even nitpickier than I am! It's incredibly similar and I believe the fade is actually there as it was before, but it appears as if the final note on the first cue has a sliiight drop-off at the very end which, coupled with the additional rain, makes it sound like a gap.

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I'm still not a fan of this new mix, as when bitstreamed and played back as TrueHD 7.1 the music and effects are so overbearing as to drown out the dialogue, which of course makes all the changes stand out so much more. But I switched my player to PCM output as recommended and listed in 5.1 and it sounded much better balanced, significantly so.
I listen to everything in stereo and I didn't have any real problems with the dialogue, though looking at the waveforms the music and effects seem a bit louder in general, but it's not completely consistent (but that's again downmixed to stereo.) The really big loudness differences are with the newly added effects, in particular big "event" sounds like the elevator scene I posted. Another one is when the elevator lands as J.F. brings Pris up to his place, or when Leon rips up Chew's thermal coat, both which are crazy loud compared to previously.

By the way the 4K iTunes version has the 2007 mix.
[Show spoiler](And messed up encoding with elevated blacks, and you can probably guess how well the grain in Deckard's apartment compresses at streaming bitrates.)

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Old 01-30-2018, 10:12 PM   #3304
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What did you think of the whoosing ceiling fan added to the Holden Leon scene? Hated it on first viewing.
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Old 01-31-2018, 02:29 PM   #3305
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Just got this yesterday now i'm watching it for the first time since like foreverAwesome just like the new one 2049 the AQ is insane PQ is beautiful
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Old 01-31-2018, 09:34 PM   #3306
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Old 01-31-2018, 10:44 PM   #3307
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Every time I pop in this UHD it is 1982 all over again and I'm 10 years old!

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Old 01-31-2018, 11:33 PM   #3308
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What did you think of the whoosing ceiling fan added to the Holden Leon scene? Hated it on first viewing.
Would have been much better had it been subtle like it is later in the scene, but they seem to have been hell-bent on making this mix the antithesis of subtlety.
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Old 02-01-2018, 05:40 AM   #3309
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Old 02-04-2018, 09:55 PM   #3310
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So has WB resold any more of these with the correct packaging as explained in the original post? I'm not able to find this film anywhere in stores. I want to purchase this on Amazon but I'm not sure if those copies are the recalled ones or not. Plus, I've been reading that people have been getting defective copies or the wrong physical copy than they've ordered(vhs instead of blue ray for instance).
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Old 02-04-2018, 10:05 PM   #3311
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So has WB resold any more of these with the correct packaging as explained in the original post? I'm not able to find this film anywhere in stores. I want to purchase this on Amazon but I'm not sure if those copies are the recalled ones or not. Plus, I've been reading that people have been getting defective copies or the wrong physical copy than they've ordered(dvd instead of blu-ray for instance).
I managed to snag this from Best Buy for $18 + tax on December 18th of last year. I don't even know if I have the corrected discs since I literally have 5 or whatever various releases of this on multiple formats.
But according to the disc label artworks I have the correct ones.

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Old 02-05-2018, 10:34 AM   #3312
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Would have been much better had it been subtle like it is later in the scene, but they seem to have been hell-bent on making this mix the antithesis of subtlety.
Reminds me of all the whoosing and pulsing in Deck's apartment when he's at the Esper machine. The sound of the fan in the Holden scene is intended to be amped up to a noticeable thwump thwump thwump when Leon's under pressure with the 'tortoise' question, but now it's just there throughout because someone thought it would sound so coooool in the height channels I guess. In the Esper scene the sound effects should be dialled back as the image cuts closer and closer to Deck but nope, on the new mix they're buzzing away throughout the scene, along with that inexplicable change to the Esper's final 'zoom in' on Zhora.
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Old 02-06-2018, 05:34 AM   #3313
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Reminds me of all the whoosing and pulsing in Deck's apartment when he's at the Esper machine. The sound of the fan in the Holden scene is intended to be amped up to a noticeable thwump thwump thwump when Leon's under pressure with the 'tortoise' question, but now it's just there throughout because someone thought it would sound so coooool in the height channels I guess. In the Esper scene the sound effects should be dialled back as the image cuts closer and closer to Deck but nope, on the new mix they're buzzing away throughout the scene, along with that inexplicable change to the Esper's final 'zoom in' on Zhora.
Why not make a custom edition with differing audio?
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Old 02-06-2018, 05:36 AM   #3314
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How about the studio include the original untouched mix for those who want it? So fans don't have to jump through hoops creating their own versions.
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Old 02-06-2018, 05:40 AM   #3315
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How about the studio include the original untouched mix for those who want it? So fans don't have to jump through hoops creating their own versions.
But it is the original untouched mix for the BLADE RUNNER: The Final Cut version of the film. You'd also need to have 4K remasters for the four remaining official cuts of the film then if you want the original untouched mix for those too.


Doesn't even matter for this thread but this is my BLADE RUNNER collection so far.




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Old 02-06-2018, 06:08 AM   #3316
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Ah, someone else in this world uses filmaf as well, eh?
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Old 02-06-2018, 06:11 AM   #3317
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Ah, someone else in this world uses filmaf as well, eh?
Yup! It's in my signature.

I'm done with buying this movie unless if I want to get the CC laserdisc or if the four other cuts will be 4K remastered and on UHD too.
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Old 02-06-2018, 07:58 AM   #3318
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Yup! It's in my signature.

I'm done with buying this movie unless if I want to get the CC laserdisc or if the four other cuts will be 4K remastered and on UHD too.
I only have three copies of it haha

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Old 02-06-2018, 08:57 AM   #3319
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Yup! It's in my signature.

I'm done with buying this movie unless if I want to get the CC laserdisc or if the four other cuts will be 4K remastered and on UHD too.
I didn't know about your sig; cool, it's useful...Film Aficionado.
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Old 02-06-2018, 09:30 AM   #3320
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Why not make a custom edition with differing audio?
I've done it with several Blu-rays but 4K ripping, remuxing and burning is a little out of my league.
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