2017 Box Office

[Skrazem]

Originally Posted by rodneyfaile

I'm interested in Coco, but I don't know anyone else who is.

I'm not particularly interested in Coco but it's Pixar and there's a 20 minute Frozen short before it. It's gonna make BANK.

[esteban²]

This was my guess from last year for 2017 for the Worldwide BO + Current# :

01 | The Last Jedi
02 | The Fate of the Furious #2
03 | Beauty and the Beast #1
04 | Transformers : The Last Knight #11
05 | Guardians of the Galaxy 2 #6
06 | Spiderman : Homecoming #4
07 | War for the Planet of the Apes #15
08 | Despicable Me 3 #3
09 | Pirates 5 #8
10 | CARS 3 #18

11 | THOR : Ragnarok
12 | ALIEN Covenant #30
13 | LOGAN #10
14 | Dunkirk #13
15 | COCO
16 | Boss Baby #14
17 | Jumanji
18 | Emoji Movie #33
19 | IT #9
20 | Kingsman 2 #20


Totally forgot about Wonder Woman, but I underestimated that one for sure, I had little interest in it and thought I wasn't the only one. Wrong. Did a better job predicting in 2015 and 2016. And ofcourse, every single years there are those surprises we didn't even know about before the actual year starts. So, impossible to predict.

I am most impressed by Wolf Warrior 2, btw. 800+ million without the US! It's not even released in most European countries, for example. That's beyond huge.

[Beautiful HD]

Originally Posted by Cremildo

That would make a big difference if the percentages of worldwide grosses were evenly split between the United States and overseas. But they are not. When movies gross anywhere from 400 million to a billion overseas, like most expensive blockbusters do nowadays, even a 40% return rate from foreign markets trumps the 50%-55% return rate from the much smaller American grosses.

So then why did TF4 was considered less profitable than TF3?

[sandman slim]

Originally Posted by Beautiful HD

So then why did TF4 was considered less profitable than TF3?

TF5, actually. The fact that people can't even remember how many of them there are tells you everything you need to know about the series.

As for the actual numbers, 5 is considered a failure because the domestic numbers have been on a steadily downward track since the second film, and the foreign total dropped sharply from the previous installment. With a production budget of $220 million, plus at least another hundred million in advertising, the theatrical release didn't make any profits for the studio. They'll make a little from home video & merchandising, but you don't spend upwards of $300 million in hopes of making a little profit. This is a big disappointment for Paramount, and they're already locked in on making another one, and another one.

[Beautiful HD]

No, I'm talking about TF4 (Age of Extinction).

[sandman slim]

And this thread is about 2017, and you quoted a 2017 chart, so...

[Rodney-2187]

I think my Thor: Ragnarok prediction might be a bit low.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by esteban²

This was my guess from last year for 2017 for the Worldwide BO + Current# :

01 | The Last Jedi
02 | The Fate of the Furious #2
03 | Beauty and the Beast #1
04 | Transformers : The Last Knight #11
05 | Guardians of the Galaxy 2 #6
06 | Spiderman : Homecoming #4
07 | War for the Planet of the Apes #15
08 | Despicable Me 3 #3
09 | Pirates 5 #8
10 | CARS 3 #18

11 | THOR : Ragnarok
12 | ALIEN Covenant #30
13 | LOGAN #10
14 | Dunkirk #13
15 | COCO
16 | Boss Baby #14
17 | Jumanji
18 | Emoji Movie #33
19 | IT #9
20 | Kingsman 2 #20


Totally forgot about Wonder Woman, but I underestimated that one for sure, I had little interest in it and thought I wasn't the only one. Wrong. Did a better job predicting in 2015 and 2016. And ofcourse, every single years there are those surprises we didn't even know about before the actual year starts. So, impossible to predict.

I am most impressed by Wolf Warrior 2, btw. 800+ million without the US! It's not even released in most European countries, for example. That's beyond huge.

So you haven't heard about a little movie called Justice League coming out in 2 weeks

[Beautiful HD]

Originally Posted by sandman slim

And this thread is about 2017, and you quoted a 2017 chart, so...

It doesn't matter what year is from, my argument is still valid.

[Dn862004]

Originally Posted by Dn862004

I cant believe how stupid Warner Bros is for releasing Justice League between Thor and Star Wars Last Jedi. They could have taken over the entire month of August/September if they released it at that time when there were no Blockbusters scheduled. Thor and Star Wars will impact the box office for Justice League regardless of what others say. I want it to do well but having to compete with Thor is going to hurt it alot. Especially since the tracking is barely above the solo Wonder Woman movie and not even expected to beat Twilight on opening weekend. Justice League was supposed to compete with Avengers since this is the first time the Justice League has ever been a movie. If this movie has a bad rotten tomatoes score it wont have the legs after a month when Star Wars comes out and destroys the box office. This shouldnt have a problem reaching a billion worldwide but im hoping at the very least it can beat the $400+ domestic from Wonder Woman. If this has great reviews i can see 1.2 billion, otherwise it might be around 1 billion with bad reviews. I think Star Wars stops Justice League from doing 1.2+ billion.

Called this weeks ago. Justice League probably wont even reach $300 milion now with all these bad reviews.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Dn862004

Called this weeks ago. Justice League probably wont even reach $300 milion now with all these bad reviews.

Marvel bias. But look at the audience scores. Says a lot about Where these critics stand. They are downright corrupt now. Its clear as day

[stvn1974]

Originally Posted by mredman

Marvel bias. But look at the audience scores. Says a lot about Where these critics stand. They are downright corrupt now. Its clear as day

[jayman3]

Originally Posted by Ant1010

Justice League hits a Billion worldwide for sure

Originally Posted by Ant1010

lol i dont' think a film like this needs big marketing. you guys are insane if you think this doesn't do 100 plus opening weekend.

ANT, your Justice League couldn't even crack $100mil opening weekend. You still think this will reach a billion worldwide? Better rethink that.

[Cremildo]

Originally Posted by Dn862004

Called this weeks ago. Justice League probably wont even reach $300 milion now with all these bad reviews.

I'll be surprised if it manages to go past the 220 million mark in the US.

[DaredevilMM]

Originally Posted by Cremildo

I'll be surprised if it manages to go past the 220 million mark in the US.

Honestly, Justice League deserves to under perform. The movie is so damn shallow and disjointed... word of mouth will continue to be awful.

The fact that Avengers made $103 million in it's SECOND weekend and JL can't crack 100 in its opening is actually quite shocking until you think about it. Avengers was exceptionally crafted with excellent lead ins and was something no one had seen before. Now, JL has to deal with following up the awful BvS which most sane people hated. The production rumors did nothing but scream "train wreck" and Ben Affleck going media stupid at the worst time possible. Affleck turned off so many that a lot of people actually made note of it.

Again, Justice League deserves the flop label that's starting to stick to it.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by DaredevilMM

Honestly, Justice League deserves to under perform. The movie is so damn shallow and disjointed... word of mouth will continue to be awful.

The fact that Avengers made $103 million in it's SECOND weekend and JL can't crack 100 in its opening is actually quite shocking until you think about it. Avengers was exceptionally crafted with excellent lead ins and was something no one had seen before. Now, JL has to deal with following up the awful BvS which most sane people hated. The production rumors did nothing but scream "train wreck" and Ben Affleck going media stupid at the worst time possible. Affleck turned off so many that a lot of people actually made note of it.

Again, Justice League deserves the flop label that's starting to stick to it.

actually word of mouth is great accrding to social media

[Rodney-2187]

Updated with new totals and Justice League opening:


Top 10 Domestic Box Office Totals
1. Beauty and the Beast (2017) - $504,014,165
2. Wonder Woman - $412,563,408
3. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - $389,813,101
4. Spider-Man: Homecoming - $334,137,958
5. It - $326,898,358
6. Despicable Me 3 - $264,069,520
7. Thor: Ragnarok - $247,265,770 (still running)
8. Logan - $226,277,068
9. The Fate of the Furious - $225,764,765
10. Dunkirk - $188,028,882

Top 10 Domestic Openings
1. Beauty and the Beast (2017) - $174,750,616
2. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - $146,510,104
3. It - $123,403,419
4. Thor: Ragnarok - $122,744,989
5. Spider-Man: Homecoming - $117,027,503
6. Wonder Woman - $103,251,471
7. The Fate of the Furious - $98,786,705
8. Justice League - $93,842,239
9. Logan - $88,411,916
10. Despicable Me 3 - $72,434,025

Top 10 Worldwide Totals
1. Beauty and the Beast (2017) - $1,263.5
2. The Fate of the Furious - $1,235.8
3. Despicable Me 3 - $1,031.8
4. Spider-Man: Homecoming - $880.1
5. Wolf Warrior 2 - $870.3
6. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - $863.6
7. Wonder Woman - $821.6
8. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales - $794.8
9. Thor: Ragnarok - $739.2 (still running)
10. It - $688.0

[Rodney-2187]

I'm wanting to go see Coco, but no one else in my family does. I wonder is this scenario is the same for others? I don't see Coco doing well, even over the holiday. I'll probably just end up purchasing it when it releases on blu-ray/digital.

[esteban²]

Originally Posted by mredman

So you haven't heard about a little movie called Justice League coming out in 2 weeks

Warning: Rolling your eyes too much might cause a headache.

In my head, Justice League was a 2019 release. I had zero interest in this at the time and totally forgot about it. Does that mean all my -not so bad- predictions are invalid now?

[esteban²]

Originally Posted by rodneyfaile

I'm wanting to go see Coco, but no one else in my family does. I wonder is this scenario is the same for others? I don't see Coco doing well, even over the holiday. I'll probably just end up purchasing it when it releases on blu-ray/digital.

Everyone I know wants to see it. Only one said this: "Why is in theaters again? Saw it on cable last year." (BoL) I can see this doing just fine. Great reviews, Thanksgiving, no competition, certain drop for JL, ...