HDR Discussion Thread

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

You're talking about the country that brought the world the Carry On films. There's no mystery here, we've always loved a good double entendre. Or even a bad one.

I have to admit I’ve never heard of that ^ franchise before, so then I googled ‘YouTube Carry On Dick’
Seems you guys do have a long tradition of doing it.

Originally Posted by I DO BLU

Apparently you haven't seen any benny hill shows from a long time ago

correct, missed that show too BLU

Apparently - https://www.netflixdocfund.co.uk/
including in many ways - https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...e-Samsung.html

[Penton-Man]

^

Nanoco Group executive interview full 1 - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Because you have a good sense of humor ... HDR trailer (F9)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRRu...ature=youtu.be

you’re too kind Bob , I play 3rd fiddle at best to cousin Eddie

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

The video you posted two up from this one was shot in my store by Shane of SpareChange and Brian of Whisper Status74.
The video is an interviewed/evaluation narrated by our calibrator, John and myself.

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I think I remember John. Couple years back, 2018?, wasn’t he the one out of your retail store that in addition to calibration duties also offered good diverse public service to videophiles wrt the topic of - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...p#post16745561
I think you’ve got a keeper there Robert.

^ yep, found it, Daniel posted the presentation -> https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...n#post15576056 and I offered a follow-up comment.

[Brian81]

I saw this online the other day... https://www.hdfury.com/enjoy-dynamic...hdr10-display/ ...and it got me thinking. Does this allow for forcing Dolby Vision output to non Dolby Vision displays? Meaning allow Dolby Vision output but then converting it to HDR10? I'm not totally understanding this piece of gear. With the poor HDR10 presentations on some Studio Canal titles, I wonder if something like this could be used with 4K home projectors which do not support DV to provide a better presentation.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Brian81

I saw this online the other day... https://www.hdfury.com/enjoy-dynamic...hdr10-display/ ...and it got me thinking. Does this allow for forcing Dolby Vision output to non Dolby Vision displays? Meaning allow Dolby Vision output but then converting it to HDR10? I'm not totally understanding this piece of gear. With the poor HDR10 presentations on some Studio Canal titles, I wonder if something like this could be used with 4K home projectors which do not support DV to provide a better presentation.

What they are doing is forcing the player-led or 'low latency' DV mode out of the players. What this mode does is conduct the tone mapping and 12-bit DV rebuild inside the player, not in the TV, so basically it outputs a pre-mapped 'HDR12' signal. It's not as good as the TV-led DV processing because it's less specific to the exact capabilities of the display and is more of a generic mapping, but it can still be as good as or better then the internal HDR10 processing of whatever display. As long as the display device can show a 12-bit HDR signal then it can show this spoofed DV output, although projektor owners have needed to put a custom profile on their display IIRC. Not sure too many owners of direct-view flat panel displays have done this yet.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by Brian81

I saw this online the other day... https://www.hdfury.com/enjoy-dynamic...hdr10-display/ ...and it got me thinking. Does this allow for forcing Dolby Vision output to non Dolby Vision displays? Meaning allow Dolby Vision output but then converting it to HDR10? I'm not totally understanding this piece of gear. With the poor HDR10 presentations on some Studio Canal titles, I wonder if something like this could be used with 4K home projectors which do not support DV to provide a better presentation.

Still better than Sony

[Penton-Man]

Agent Kay's back
? https://www.eventbrite.com/e/reducat...s-132849683981

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Waboman

I ask that every morning.

and your answer as to Soul v Wolfwalkers? -

Wolfwalkers — Official Trailer l Apple TV+ - YouTube

[Waboman]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

and your answer as to Soul v Wolfwalkers? -

Wolfwalkers — Official Trailer l Apple TV+ - YouTube

Kid watched Soul. Liked it. This wolfwalker (thank you for posting the actual video and not cryptic links) isn't my cup o' tea. Now give it an R rating, throw in werewolf carnage, high body count and boobs and I'm in. You know, all the stuff that makes a movie great.

[Show spoiler]

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Wabs, what’s your pleasure - blackjack, switchblade, hand guns?....flamethrowers like cuz Eddie?

Wabs, I emailed a prop guy friend with a request if/when he gets the time to lay out your weapons of choice ^ and send me a pic for visual illustration. He said he doesn’t have any flamethrower in the dept.

[Penton-Man]

As filmmaking is largely about making (and saving) money – Agent Kay may recall ‘Island Plaza’ (IP) - https://variety.com/2017/film/news/c...it-1202504202/ <- the top dog
non-cryptic visual illustration for Wabo’s sake - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...k#post16844182

just published, more tax credits for independent productions - https://film.ca.gov/wp-content/uploa...eport-2020.pdf

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

What they are doing

Geoff, I don’t want to clutter up the VT thread with an ignorant question and since they don’t care to consider the augmentation of colors outside P3 after converting the mastering file to 10-bit YCbCr 4:2:0, since I’m not in the loop on the whole LOTR discussion going on there, I’ve got to ask - what do you mean by the acronym IJWTM?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Wabs, I emailed a prop guy friend with a request if/when he gets the time to lay out your weapons of choice ^ and send me a pic for visual illustration. He said he doesn’t have any flamethrower in the dept.

says he'll try to get it in before New Years and label it for your attention

[LordoftheRings]

While Tom is in Rome, Italy, working for/with Paramount movie studios ...
Dolby Vision/HDR10+ Grading ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBUY...ature=youtu.be

Two more days and we're starting a new decade; hope it'll be a united one.
...On all fronts, not just on HDR video standards and best practice by all movie studios.
Hope for the best ...after January 2021.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Geoff, I don’t want to clutter up the VT thread with an ignorant question and since they don’t care to consider the augmentation of colors outside P3 after converting the mastering file to 10-bit YCbCr 4:2:0, since I’m not in the loop on the whole LOTR discussion going on there, I’ve got to ask - what do you mean by the acronym IJWTM?

It's short for I Just Watch The Movie i.e. the people who waded into the LOTR 'discussion' to say that we're all nerds for dissecting the picture quality, how can you enjoy it when nitpicking everything etc etc. Same old shit that happens whenever people dare to question the wisdom of the "pro review" fraternity but I've not seen it get as vitriolic as that in quite some time.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Wabs, I emailed a prop guy friend with a request if/when he gets the time to lay out your weapons of choice ^ and send me a pic for visual illustration. He said he doesn’t have any flamethrower in the dept.

And I’ll ask him to present them to you, not laying on his bare naked desk or a regular piece of microfiber, but rather placed carefully on Professional Grade Premium microfiber.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

It's short for I Just Watch The Movie i.e. the people who waded into the LOTR 'discussion' to say that we're all nerds for dissecting the picture quality, how can you enjoy it when nitpicking everything etc etc. Same old shit that happens whenever people dare to question the wisdom of the "pro review" fraternity but I've not seen it get as vitriolic as that in quite some time.

Thanks . It was bugging me as I couldn't figure the acroymn out at all.

[LordoftheRings]

Update ... HDR10+ Adaptive

https://www.engadget.com/hdr-10-plus...-7h8Lm8Tm3JuRR

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

What they are doing is forcing the player-led or 'low latency' DV mode out of the players. What this mode does is conduct the tone mapping and 12-bit DV rebuild inside the player, not in the TV, so basically it outputs a pre-mapped 'HDR12' signal. It's not as good as the TV-led DV processing because it's less specific to the exact capabilities of the display and is more of a generic mapping, but it can still be as good as or better then the internal HDR10 processing of whatever display. As long as the display device can show a 12-bit HDR signal then it can show this spoofed DV output, although projektor owners have needed to put a custom profile on their display IIRC. Not sure too many owners of direct-view flat panel displays have done this yet.

Was reading comments on YouTube videos that were showing these off. Seen a few Samsung owners talking about using these.

Samsung tvs have a major incompatibilty issue with Netflix and Amazon with their dimming systems. I just ordered this yesterday off Amazon with prime, gonna see if that different Metadata will engage the dimming to work properly.