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Old 04-16-2009, 05:09 PM   #4621
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Is PJ even involved with the transfer for this release or is this just NL/WB putting together a transfer and shipping it out the door. The way it sounds, PJ won't be involved until the EE editions are worked on.

I am affraid we are going to get this release loaded with DNR
I'm sure he's at least approved the transfers, or had someone he trusts do so. It's his decision to hold the EEs for the ultimate box set, so he is involved on some level.
 
Old 04-16-2009, 05:10 PM   #4622
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It looks like Dances With Wolves was released on Blu-ray in France yesterday (the extended edition no less, with AVC/English DTS-HD MA 5.1, though the entire four-hour movie and two hours of SD supplements were crammed onto one disc). Does this mean a U.S. version will be landing on our shores soon?

http://www.amazon.fr/Danse-loups-Blu...GA6Z6WAZKKNW6Q
 
Old 04-16-2009, 05:11 PM   #4623
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Hey Jeff or Bill,

I know Bill said that New Line is holding off on Lord of the Rings Extended Editions until Peter Jackson can be involved, but is it REALLY I mean REALLY too much to ask to just throw the extended editions in this box set that is coming this year?

No one is a bigger sucker for double dipping than me, but LotR is one exception. I absolutely refuse to buy anything less than the extended editions.

Perhaps one good thing that can come from waiting is that maybe the next editions will be released DNR free.

We can only hope.
It's actually Peter's decision. Not New Lines, aka Warner. So you have to respect that.
 
Old 04-16-2009, 05:12 PM   #4624
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I am happy enough to double dip on the LoTR collection. Jeff any word on New Line releases such as Blade and remake of Texas Chainsaw??

Texas yes. Due this year. Blade maybe in 2010.
 
Old 04-16-2009, 05:22 PM   #4625
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So will a 50GB Blu-ray be enough for the EE's? As much as it pains me I'm assuming they will be using TrueHD for all these because DTS-HD MA would take more space on the disc.
 
Old 04-16-2009, 05:25 PM   #4626
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Jeff,

You sure Jurassic Park 4 is still moving forward? Check the link below.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=51101
 
Old 04-16-2009, 05:27 PM   #4627
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So will a 50GB Blu-ray be enough for the EE's? As much as it pains me I'm assuming they will be using TrueHD for all these because DTS-HD MA would take more space on the disc.
A DTS-HD soundtrack by itself will take up more space than a TrueHD track, but when you consider that you need a legacy DOlby Digital Track to be present as well TrueHD might actually take up more space.
 
Old 04-16-2009, 05:29 PM   #4628
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So will a 50GB Blu-ray be enough for the EE's? As much as it pains me I'm assuming they will be using TrueHD for all these because DTS-HD MA would take more space on the disc.
TrueHD is better. There seems to be bugs with DTS that cause speaker popping sometimes or cause a DTS HD MA track to play as DTS HD HR. Whoever's to blame for this, the fact is TrueHD has never had any issue like this AFAIK so something about TrueHD (or someone at Dolby) makes it easier to implement without these hiccups. Also, TrueHD has better volume or dialogue normalization tags. Even before the HD versions, I always thought DTS sounded too "raw"
 
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So will a 50GB Blu-ray be enough for the EE's?
Under reasonable production circumstances, it should be no problem.

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As much as it pains me I'm assuming they will be using TrueHD for all these because DTS-HD MA would take more space on the disc.
Why does it pain you? Given the same source, they produce the same product. Do you own DTS stock?
 
Old 04-16-2009, 05:31 PM   #4630
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Hopefully PJ decides to go with DTS HD-MA. I mean, if WB didn't obsorb NL we would have had DTS on the discs. So here's hoping. More than likely it will only be TrueHD. I don't have a problem with that either since that is better than DD, but a DTS track would be nice.
 
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More than likely it will only be TrueHD.
Only an identical decoded signal? Rats!


I wanted six of one and only got half-a-dozen of the other!
 
Old 04-16-2009, 05:34 PM   #4632
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It's actually Peter's decision. Not New Lines, aka Warner. So you have to respect that.
Well thats disappointing. Peter Jackson always struck me as the ultimate fanboy and its disappointing that he would hold New Line/Warner back from putting the EE on the disc even with NO extras. Id be MORE THAN HAPPY to buy his ultimate edition set further down the line.

Very disappointing.

Now he and Warner have to respect my decision to not buy the theatrical versions on bluray.

No EE = No sale.

That's my final say on the matter. I've voiced my frustrations and Ill leave it at that. Anyone else can justify the decision all you want, but you're not going to convince me that theatrical only is for the greater good.

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Old 04-16-2009, 05:38 PM   #4633
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The reason I'm frustrated is that, despite Jeff's sincere cheerleading, I can't, for the life of me, imagine any extras I could possibly prefer to wait three years for rather than to have the EEs this year, even if it meant no extras at all.
I agree, I have the LOTR EEs on DVD, and have never watched any of the extras at all. I would like to have the EEs on Blu-ray, and certainly won't buy the theatrical versions, so they're just delaying getting my money if they delay the EEs to add more extras that I will never watch.
 
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TrueHD is better. There seems to be bugs with DTS that cause speaker popping sometimes or cause a DTS HD MA track to play as DTS HD HR. Whoever's to blame for this, the fact is TrueHD has never had any issue like this AFAIK so something about TrueHD (or someone at Dolby) makes it easier to implement without these hiccups. Also, TrueHD has better volume or dialogue normalization tags. Even before the HD versions, I always thought DTS sounded too "raw"
I absolutely LOVE the raw sound of DTS-HD MA soundtracks. I've never had any mentioned problems with them and applaud everytime they are used. TrueHD's dialogue normalization is something I just don't like. I know they are both lossless but in the end I still prefer DTS-HD MA.
 
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Another difference between TrueHD and DTS HD MA is that some receivers will do better post-processing (if sent bitstream of course) on the TrueHD than on the DTS HD MA. Some receivers may not even do any post-processing on DTS HD MA. Same may be true of players (when sending LPCM) ... don't know.

Of course purists will not want any post-processing done.

But I found out DTS HD MA supports more channels than TrueHD (which is limited to 14). I'd much rather have home video supporting 16.1 surround sound than having some 3D, especially if it requires glasses or they don't remove the eye strain/headache problems that persists for some people (like me) even with the newest technologies at theaters.
 
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Under reasonable production circumstances, it should be no problem.
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Why does it pain you? Given the same source, they produce the same product. Do you own DTS stock?
Yes Yes I know they are both lossless. I just prefer the more "raw" balls-to-the-wall DTS-HD MA soundtracks.
 
Old 04-16-2009, 05:56 PM   #4637
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Yes Yes I know they are both lossless. I just prefer the more "raw" balls-to-the-wall DTS-HD MA soundtracks.
To my understanding, the only difference here is a couple DB more gain on the DTS side.
 
Old 04-16-2009, 06:09 PM   #4638
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To my understanding, the only difference here is a couple DB more gain on the DTS side.
That's what I keep hearing but I think it's more than that but then again I'm no expert
 
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Rumor tells that Apollo 13 is due early next year, probably January.

Finally something from Universal to consider buying.
 
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