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[Tok]

Now the question is if we can get Paramount to admit the flaw and issue a replacement disc.

[MerrickG]

Originally Posted by CraigW

Now the question is if we can get Paramount to admit the flaw and issue a replacement disc.

The question is whether its a flaw that causes a permanent out of synch issue or whether its just for that one part.

[Croweyes1121]

What version: US
What Blu-ray Player: PS3 Slim 120GB
What Receiver: Onkyo 605
Decoding internally or bitstream: I've tried it both ways.
Connnection: HDMI via receiver

Pretty much any point after Chapter 15 is noticeable. The entire ending battle exhibits the issue to some degree. I could really tell any time there were flashes of guns, the flashes were slightly ahead of the audio. When Jackson is in the tower praying to himself while shooting the Germans, it's very obvious. His "Parker, get down!" line is definitely out of sync, for example. It's very distracting.

[captveg]

Originally Posted by jaaguir

Jeff, is Warner going to release some of Universal's catalog now? "The getaway"(1994) was announced as a double-feature for July, and it seems "Timecop" has been announced for September. Why is this?

I'm pretty sure these are circumstances unique to these specific titles, not a general trend of WB gaining rights to Universal catalog.

[Altutor]

Originally Posted by merrick97

The question is whether its a flaw that causes a permanent out of synch issue or whether its just for that one part.

This issue is from the church scene on with dialogue and effects.

[chas]

Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

For the sync issue:

What version: U.S.

What Blu-ray Player: Sony PS3 Slim 250gb

What Receiver: Yamaha HTR-5990

Decoding internally or bitstream: Internally

Connnection: HDMI to Receiver, HDMI from Receiver to TV.

Timecode: 2:18:59 (on the DTS DVD, it's at 2:18:49 according to my BDP-S1). With the DTS DVD, the sound of the shots clearly sync up to the flashes from the gun fire. On the Blu-ray, the sound does not match the flashes. Pausing, using the pop-up menu, none of it seems to effect it.

I'm having the same issues with gun-fire...the sound seems to be a bit behind the picture on a lot of the gunfire in chapters 16-17. Something is just not right.

-US version (Best Buy)
-Panasonic BD-35 latest firmware (2.2)
-Denon AVR-2809ci
-Panasonic TH-50PX80U plasma
-HDMI to receiver and receiver to TV
-similar issue when bitstreamed or decoded by player

[DenonCI]

I just compared the foreign language tracks versus the English on SPR and the lip-sync is WAY off

Seriously though, I check the 2:18:58 mark on all of the audio tracks and the machine gun fire is the same in all of them in the timing with the sound. YMMV though.

[The Duke]

Just wanted to chime in that my UK release of SPR plays perfectly, absolutely no lip sync issues at all. I'm in Arizona, but was getting the Avatar Steelbook from Amazon UK and included a copy of the UK SPR release as it was a few dollars less than Amazon.com at the time, and I get the release a few days earlier than the US release.

What version: UK
What Blu-ray Player: LG BH200, with latest March 2010 FW
What Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR507
Decoding: Bitstream to my receiver for decoding.
Connnection: HDMI

[Mr. Cinema]

I did not have any sync issues, but wanted to post my info for comparisons.

What version: U.S.

What Blu-ray Player: Sony BDP-S360

What Receiver: Sony STR-DG820

Decoding internally or bitstream: bitstream

Connnection: HDMI from player to receiver

I replayed the problem areas multiple times and did not notice anything out of sync. My copy was from Amazon.

[PeterTHX]

From the BITS today:

Also today, Fox has set The Simpsons: Season 13 for release on DVD and Blu-ray on 8/25 (SRP $49.98 & $59.99). Extras will include commentary on each episode.

Hm. Was it postproduced on film? Or is this an upconvert?

[Jeff Kleist]

We'll check on that. I believe that 14 is when they went digital

The real question is this: Did they scan the line drawings in hi res, save them, and will they spend the money to recolor 6 seasons?

[gettodamoofies]

Hi Jeff,

As requested in the SPR thread please see below for my results checking up on the SPR sync issue:

What version: UK
What Blu-ray Player: Sony BDP-S360 (Australian release - updated with current firmware from sony.com.au)
What Receiver Sony STR-DA2400ES (Australian release - current)
Decoding internally or bitstream: Normally bitstream, however attempted internal decoding and the same sync issue was present.
Connection: HMDI - normally through receiver, however also tried direct to TV. Same result.
Sync problem commences at 1:59:36 (close up shot of Tom Hanks' hand on the coffee machine). From that point onwards through the remainder of the film there is a significant gap. Gunshots render this issue most obviously, however dialogue also seems clearly detached from the visuals. This occurs regardless of if the disc is played in it's entirety or skipped to chapter 14 and watched from there.

[Filmmaker]

I have the audio sync issue.

What version: U.S.
What Blu-ray Player: PS3 40GB (CECHG01), Firmware Version 3.30
What Receiver: Kenwood VR-507
Decoding bitstream (direct)
Connnection: HDMI to the TV; optical to the receiver.

My disc came from Best Buy.

[Jeff Kleist]

Where your discs come from shouldn't matter, and don't try to return discs for something like this. A phydically bad disc will glitch and freeze, not play out of sync

[felixemartinez]

What version: US
What Blu-ray Player: Panasonic BD-30 and PS3
What Receiver: Pioneer with the BD-30, internal TV speakers with the PS3
Decoding internally or bitstream: Both
Connnection: BD-30 - DTS core via coax; PS3 analog stereo out

I am also noticing a slight audio sync delay beginning at Chapter 15 - Hanks fiddling with the espresso machine, etc. onward. This was with a Panny BD-30 (latest firmware) running DTS thru coax into a Pioneer receiver. I also noticed it with a PS3 (latest firmware) running DTS downmixed stereo analog out, into a TV with built-in speakers to keep things simple. I then brought out my 2004 SPR 60th Anniversary D-Day DVD release as well as the original 1999 DVD release - both exhibited no audio slip. It seems to continue throughout the last battle as well, to some degree.

The audio delay is probably something like 2-3 frames, which may go unnoticed - but definitely there on these two set-ups, compared to the prior DVD releases.

I provided feedback here FWIW:

Paramount Blu-ray Support
http://support.paramountbluray.com

[KubrickFan]

I noticed it on my copy (Dutch version) as well. I sampled some bits from chapter 15 and the end, so I assume it's there throughout the ending. Though it's really not that bad on my copy. It's barely noticeable, but it's there.
I have a Sony BDP-S350, connected with coax to a Sony receiver (pretty old, but hey).

[Rhylliam]

What version: Canadian
What Blu-ray Player: Sony BDP-S350
What Receiver: N/A
Connnection: HDMI

During the whole final battle sequence, dialogue was off, as well as the shots/explosions etc.

[Jeff Kleist]

Anyone who has listed specs, please list you tv model and make sure you have no processing modes engaged.

[micks_address]

What version: UK.

What Blu-ray Player: Oppo BD83

What Receiver: DENON AVR 1910

Decoding internally or bitstream: bitstream

Connnection: HDMI from player to receiver - receiver to tv

TV: Sony Bravia 1080p LCD tv (uk model kdl-40w4000)


Plays fine

I dont know if it makes any difference but there's a mode on my amp called 'auto lip sync' maybe thats helping.. having tried it with setting off..

[SDon1969]

What version: US
What Blu-ray Player: PS3 "Fat" 80gig
What Receiver: Onkyo 605
Connnection: HDMI
What TV: 2010 Panasonic TC50G20

I had the audio sync issue for a short time after the two-hour mark. It lasted for just a minute or two during the scene where the German record is being translated.