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Old 08-16-2010, 03:18 PM   #12321
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Leo has always been a great actor. He was nominated for an Oscar for one of his earliest film roles - and to my knowledge has never had a period where he wasn't working. Just because some people don't like Titanic does not make him a bad actor.

I doubt Shia will ever improve.
Earlier film I think of was where Leo was excellent in Gilbert Grape.
 
Old 08-16-2010, 04:17 PM   #12322
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Titanic was the only Leo film I didn't like.
 
Old 08-16-2010, 08:05 PM   #12323
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... Still I would prefer to have an intermission break for Ben Hur where we HAVE to get up and change from Disc one to disc two. Imo that would be a nice touch for every movie that had an intermission theatrically
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... BTW, movies with long running times are forced at a certain point to have an intermission ...
I love intermissions, and, for long movies, I think they are an important tool often well used by directors. Things often "come to a head" just before the intermission. The intermission gives people time to consolidate the first part of the film, talk about it a bit, and wonder how it is all going to come out. The ability to get up and move around helps defeat fatigue and falling asleep. As to the huge drinks, it would be a service to filmmakers to eliminate them. Producers may have a voice in this. For the 70 mm, 6 channel stereo, Todd-AO showings of Around the World in 80 Days(1956), Mike Todd banned drinks with ice (too much clunking), although they were available cold, on the grounds that "they f**K up the stereo."

In the case of Ben-Hur, I hope they allow the just-before-the intermission shot to run full length with its swirling leaves and magnificent and powerful Rozsa music, instead of cutting off the shot, and having Rozsa's theater shaking climax play over an offensive title card, the way they did in previous home versions. Also, either the disk people compressed the dynamics of that piece of music (and some other music and sound effects in the film), or the projectionists were riding the volume control, boosting certain sections, in both the 1959 and 1968 70 mm releases in San Francisco, and doing so with amazing precision. A pair of projectionists (2 for 70mm, times have changed!) once told me that a studio gave them a chart on where to turn up the volume -- and by how much -- for the 70 mm version of Paint Your Wagon(as good as they were, 70 mm magnetic tracks were not as capable of as extreme dynamic range as are the better recording media today, so manually changing the volume made sense). If the filmmakers wanted it that way, and left notes or are still living and participating, then such volume changes should be built into the disk releases.

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Old 08-16-2010, 08:07 PM   #12324
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I would actually be in favor of structured intermissions, but theaters seem to want to push as many showings as possible, which is why we don't see these any more. I think well structured intermissions and more reasonable prices would lead to more concession sales though
 
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I love intermissions, and, for long movies, I think they are an important tool often well used by directors. Things often "come to a head" just before the intermission. The intermission gives people time to consolidate the first part of the film, talk about it a bit, and wonder how it is all going to come out. The ability to get up and move around helps defeat fatigue and falling asleep. As to the huge drinks, it would be a service to filmmakers to eliminate them. Producers may have a voice in this. For the 70 mm, 6 channel stereo, Todd-AO showings of Around the World in 80 Days(1956), Mike Todd banned drinks with ice (too much clunking), although they were available cold, on the grounds that "they f**K up the stereo."

In the case of Ben-Hur, I hope they allow the just-before-the intermission shot to run full length with its swirling leaves and magnificent and powerful Rozsa music, instead of cutting off the shot, and having Rozsa's theater shaking climax play over an offensive title card, the way they did in previous home versions. Also, either the disk people compressed the dynamics of that piece of music (and some other music and sound effects in the film), or the projectionists were riding the volume control, boosting certain sections, in both the 1959 and 1968 70 mm releases in San Francisco, and doing so with amazing precision. A pair of projectionists (2 for 70mm, times have changed!) once told me that a studio gave them a chart on where to turn up the volume -- and by how much -- for the 70 mm version of Paint Your Wagon(as good as they were, 70 mm magnetic tracks were not as capable of as extreme dynamic range as are the better recording media today, so manually changing the volume made sense). If the filmmakers wanted it that way, and left notes or are still living and participating, then such volume changes should be built into the disk releases.
The best idea would be to replicate a roadshow showing of movies like Ben Hur as closely as possible on the Blu-Ray. But instead we often get intermission cards, a slide show or other nonsense because of the fear that people cannot handle a black screen with music anymore.
This could also be a worthwhile application for seamless branching - let the people decide if they want to have the pure roadshow experience or not.
 
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The best idea would be to replicate a roadshow showing of movies like Ben Hur as closely as possible on the Blu-Ray. But instead we often get intermission cards, a slide show or other nonsense because of the fear that people cannot handle a black screen with music anymore.
This could also be a worthwhile application for seamless branching - let the people decide if they want to have the pure roadshow experience or not.
If they are afraid that a black screen during the Overture or the Entr'Acte would confuse some people (Hey! Where's the picture?), I wouldn't object to a brief introductory note that fades away immediately that explains that they are trying to simulate the roadshow experience, which had musical preludes before the film and at the end of the intermission. In the case of Ben-Hur, they could even show a high PQ photograph of the interior of a Magna style 70 mm theater, with a huge curved set of closed curtains. Then they could simulate the playbook instructions given to projectionists for Ben-Hur, that called for the theater lights to progressively dim toward the end of the overture ("prelude") with the curtain lights also dimming, but lagging slightly behind, ending with the curtains opening as the theater went to total darkness, and as the mute and still MGM lion faded in (the disk people could use a slow zoom-in toward the end of the darkening, so that the curtains would completely fill the AR of the movie). As I remember it in multiple 70 mm viewings, we felt like we were being sucked into the screen due to these light and music techniques.

On second thought, the above would be good for most viewers, but I guess I'd rather have the lights go down in my now-being-built home theater itself, under my control.
 
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I would actually be in favor of structured intermissions, but theaters seem to want to push as many showings as possible, which is why we don't see these any more. I think well structured intermissions and more reasonable prices would lead to more concession sales though
Intermissions work well in "old style" single screen theatres. With modern multiplexes, however, a large group of people leaving a screen and going into the lobby and then returning to the theatre could cause logistical problems.
 
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Gods and Generals had an intermission, it worked fine in a 16-plex
 
Old 08-16-2010, 09:34 PM   #12329
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so we where just having a conversation in the criterion forum seeing as mgm is in money trouble and letting criterion release a lot of the classics ...
im hoping for 12 angry men and some like it hot myself


paramount came into question ...

its getting clear they have no intention to release the classics on blu-ray anytime soon (apart from indiana eventually ) could they at least let criterion release them... but i read on criterion forum that apparently paramount wont let them??

just wandering why ?
 
Old 08-16-2010, 09:37 PM   #12330
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Jeff,

Do you honestly feel that Star Wars fans to have the original version of the films truly represent what most fans really want? Or are they just a very (sometimes ridiculous)vocal minority? For many years I thought they were the majority, now Im starting to believe they are just a vocal minority since several casual home theater fans I mentioned that Star Wars was coming to bluray and I told them that it didn't have the original versions and they said they could care less. I also asked if they released the original unedited trilogy would they buy it and they said no.
 
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its getting clear they have no intention to release the classics on blu-ray anytime soon (apart from indiana eventually ) could they at least let criterion release them... but i read on criterion forum that apparently paramount wont let them??

just wandering why ?
This has been answered several times by Jeff. Paramount is in piss poor financial shape and has to be very selective with what titles they release, since they have for the most part (Star Trek is a debatable exception) been of hifh quality.
 
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This has been answered several times by Jeff. Paramount is in piss poor financial shape and has to be very selective with what titles they release, since they have for the most part (Star Trek is a debatable exception) been of hifh quality.
how do they expect to get out of "piss poor financial shape" when there not bloody releasing anything .... mgm are bust and im going to be owning mad max , return of the living dead , chitty chitty bang bang " by the end of the year
 
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how do they expect to get out of "piss poor financial shape" when there not bloody releasing anything .... mgm are bust and im going to be owning mad max , return of the living dead , chitty chitty bang bang " by the end of the year
Im with you on that, but your question has already been answered and its likely going to be the best answer you are going to get for the time being.

Remember that November and December titles still have yet to be announced.
 
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its getting clear they have no intention to release the classics on blu-ray anytime soon (apart from indiana eventually ) could they at least let criterion release them... but i read on criterion forum that apparently paramount wont let them??
Because they intend to do so themselves at some point. And most people don't consider Indiana Jones "classic", it's not that old The MGM deal is with relatively minor titles. They're not going to let them near The Great Escape or the other remaining gems

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Do you honestly feel that Star Wars fans to have the original version of the films truly represent what most fans really want? Or are they just a very (sometimes ridiculous)vocal minority? For many years I thought they were the majority, now Im starting to believe they are just a vocal minority since several casual home theater fans I mentioned that Star Wars was coming to bluray and I told them that it didn't have the original versions and they said they could care less. I also asked if they released the original unedited trilogy would they buy it and they said no.
The number of people who won't buy it because it's the SE probably number in the hundreds at best. It's a very vocal minority. WHile the SEs can certainly use some surgery (han shoots first, killing the musical number in Jedi and the restoration of the yub yubs), structurally there's not much to complain about in the SEs. Obviously minty green lightsabers and other issues need to be taken care of.

Whatever reason Lucas gives at any particular time, the real reason is that he doesn't ever want to see those versions again because they frustrate him creatively to no end. Honestly I think it's far more important and likely to include a rifftrax Star Wars Holiday special in the box

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how do they expect to get out of "piss poor financial shape" when there not bloody releasing anything .... mgm are bust and im going to be owning mad max , return of the living dead , chitty chitty bang bang " by the end of the year
Because releasing classic catalog will not dig them out of the financial hole. Catalog Blu-ray is in general a very small part of their overall business. Fox in part finances the releases of MGM's titles and then takes their money back from the sales with a distribution fee on top.

Like I've been saying, like it or not, every year old movies get less profitable, outside the obvious 40-50 or so exceptions. Why? Because the people who remember them are dying off, and new fans are not replacing them, nor are they likely to

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Because they intend to do so themselves at some point. And most people don't consider Indiana Jones "classic", it's not that old The MGM deal is with relatively minor titles. They're not going to let them near The Great Escape or the other remaining gems



The number of people who won't buy it because it's the SE probably number in the hundreds at best. It's a very vocal minority. WHile the SEs can certainly use some surgery (han shoots first, killing the musical number in Jedi and the restoration of the yub yubs), structurally there's not much to complain about in the SEs. Obviously minty green lightsabers and other issues need to be taken care of.

Whatever reason Lucas gives at any particular time, the real reason is that he doesn't ever want to see those versions again because they frustrate him creatively to no end. Honestly I think it's far more important and likely to include a rifftrax Star Wars Holiday special in the box



Because releasing classic catalog will not dig them out of the financial hole. Catalog Blu-ray is in general a very small part of their overall business. Fox in part finances the releases of MGM's titles and then takes their money back from the sales with a distribution fee on top.

Like I've been saying, like it or not, every year old movies get less profitable, outside the obvious 40-50 or so exceptions. Why? Because the people who remember them are dying off, and new fans are not replacing them, nor are they likely to
but if there value decreases why not licensee them off to boutique labels like criterion ,,,

also you say that new fans are not replacing them but im 19 and i love the classics as do most of my friends .... we all bought psycho blu-ray on the same day

ive heard universal are going to get more classics going after the success of psycho so thats always good

when i say classics i dont mean stuff no ones heard off but the biggies like
chinatown , rosemarys baby , harold and maude , sunset boulevard ,
once upon a time in the west....

in terms of mgm also i heard criterion nabbed some like it hot and 12 angry men ... it appears there going after there laser disc titles
but stuff like great escape are they likely to get released threw fox at some-point ,,, ??

what do you think
 
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but if there value decreases why not licensee them off to boutique labels like criterion ,,,

also you say that new fans are not replacing them but im 19 and i love the classics as do most of my friends .... we all bought psycho blu-ray on the same day
Because they intend on releasing them themselves at a later time, when the installed base of people who do like the movies is high enough, which will result in more money. Psycho is one of the 50 that always sell and are multi-generational.

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n terms of mgm also i heard criterion nabbed some like it hot and 12 angry men ... it appears there going after there laser disc titles
but stuff like great escape are they likely to get released threw fox at some-point ,,, ??
Criterion will do great stuff with those

Great Escape and its ilk won't come out until they're sold, and it's unlikely they'll still be distributing through Fox after that sale since it will almost certainly be to WB
 
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Because they intend on releasing them themselves at a later time, when the installed base of people who do like the movies is high enough, which will result in more money. Psycho is one of the 50 that always sell and are multi-generational.



Criterion will do great stuff with those

Great Escape and its ilk won't come out until they're sold, and it's unlikely they'll still be distributing through Fox after that sale since it will almost certainly be to WB
really warner bros that would be amazing

there one studio that cares about the classics
i suppose holding off the biggies sweetens the pot for potential buyers

would you consider

chinatown , rosemary's baby , etc in the top 50 ??

i have a thread in the uk forum about imdb top 250
i suppose there the most likely to hit down on blu-ray because they are the most well known and highly regarded

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3. 9.2 inception (2010)

5. 8.9 Pulp Fiction (1994)

6. 8.9 Schindler's List (1993)

7. 8.8 Toy Story 3 (2010) (2010)

8. 8.8 12 Angry Men (1957)

10. 8.8 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) ( 2011)

13. 8.8 Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977) (2011)

14. 8.7 Seven Samurai (1954) (oct 2010)

18. 8.7 City of God (2002) (2010 Canada ? )

20. 8.7 Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)

21. 8.7 Rear Window (1954)




24. 8.7 Once Upon a Time in the West (1968)

31. 8.6 Sunset Boulevard (1950)

34. 8.6 Citizen Kane (1941) ( rumored 2011)

36. 8.6 Apocalypse Now (1979) ( 2010 )

38. 8.5 American Beauty (1999) (2010)

40. 8.5 Taxi Driver (1976)

41. 8.5 Vertigo (1958)

43. 8.5 Lawrence of Arabia (1962)

44. 8.5 Alien (1979) (2010)

50. 8.4 Paths of Glory (1957) (2010)

53. 8.4 To Kill a Mockingbird (1962)

54. 8.4 Aliens (1986) (2010)

56. 8.4 Spirited Away (2001)



58. 8.4 Double Indemnity (1944)

59. 8.4 Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) (2010 dutch / spanish )

60. 8.4 Chinatown (1974) ( rumored 2010)

65. 8.4 Das Boot (1981)

66. 8.4 The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948) (2010)

67. 8.4 Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975)

68. 8.4 City Lights (1931) ( rumored 2010)

70. 8.4 The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957) ( 2010)

73. 8.3 Back to the Future (1985) (2010)

76. 8.3 Life Is Beautiful (1997) (2010 canada ?? )

77. 8.3 Modern Times (1936) (2010 uk/usa)

78. 8.3 Singin' in the Rain (1952) ( rumored 2011)

79. 8.3 Some Like It Hot (1959)

86. 8.3 The Maltese Falcon (1941) (2010)

87. 8.3 Once Upon a Time in America (1984)

88. 8.3 Rashômon (1950)

89. 8.3 All About Eve (1950)

90. 8.3 Metropolis (1927) (2010)

96. 8.3 Rebecca (1940)

97. 8.3 The Apartment (1960)

99. 8.3 The Sting (1973)

101. 8.3 The Great Escape (1963)

103. 8.3 Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989) (rumored 2010 )

104. 8.3 Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983)(2011)

106. 8.3 Bicycle Thieves (1948) ( rumored 2010)

107. 8.3 Jaws (1975)

111. 8.2 On the Waterfront (1954)

112. 8.2 Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939)

113. 8.2 Hotel Rwanda (2004)

116. 8.2 Touch of Evil (1958)

119. 8.2 Princess Mononoke (1997)

124. 8.2 Strangers on a Train (1951)

127. 8.2 High Noon (1952)

129. 8.2 Notorious (1946)

132. 8.2 Annie Hall (1977)

135. 8.2 The Manchurian Candidate (1962)

137. 8.2 The Big Lebowski (1998) ( rumored 2010 )

138. 8.2 Platoon (1986) ( asia release ? )

143. 8.1 Ben-Hur (1959) ( rumored 2011)

144. 8.1 The Big Sleep (1946)

146. 8.1 The Lion King (1994) (2011)

147. 8.1 It Happened One Night (1934)

148. 8.1 Witness for the Prosecution (1957)

153. 8.1 Wild Strawberries (1957)

154. 8.1 Finding Nemo (2003) ( rumored 2010)

156. 8.1 Kick-Ass (2010)

158. 8.1 Stand by Me (1986)

161. 8.1 Scarface (1983)

162. 8.1 The Graduate (1967) (2010)

165. 8.1 Amores Perros (2000) (2010)

173. 8.1 The Grapes of Wrath (1940)

174. 8.1 How to Train Your Dragon (2010)

175. 8.1 The Gold Rush (1925) (2010)

178. 8.1 The Secret in Their Eyes (2009) (2010 )

179. 8.1 Grave of the Fireflies (1988)

180. 8.1 Les diaboliques (1955)

181. 8.1 The Night of the Hunter (1955) ( 2010)

182. 8.0 The Incredibles (2004)

184. 8.0 Judgment at Nuremberg (1961)

185. 8.0 The Killing (1956)

187. 8.0 Kind Hearts and Coronets (1949) (2010)

189. 8.0 The Exorcist (1973) (2010)

191. 8.0 The Best Years of Our Lives (1946)

194. 8.0 Nights of Cabiria (1957)

195. 8.0 The Hustler (1961)

196. 8.0 Dial M for Murder (1954) ( rumored 2010)

197. 8.0 Good Will Hunting (1997) ( Canada ?? )

198. 8.0 Rosemary's Baby (1968)

199. 8.0 Ed Wood (1994)

200. 8.0 Harvey (1950)

202. 8.0 King Kong (1933) (2010)

203. 8.0 A Streetcar Named Desire (1951)

210. 8.0 Sleuth (1972)

211. 8.0 Shadow of a Doubt (1943)

213. 8.0 Stalag 17 (1953)

214. 8.0 Network (1976)

217. 8.0 Rope (1948)

221. 8.0 The Battle of Algiers (1966)

222. 8.0 Duck Soup (1933)

223. 8.0 Manhattan (1979)



225. 8.0 La strada (1954)

228. 8.0 The Conversation (1974) (rumored 10/11)

233. 8.0 Barry Lyndon (1975)

236. 7.9 All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)

237. 7.9 Anatomy of a Murder (1959)

238. 7.9 Mulholland Drive (2001) (2010)

240. 7.9 Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (1966)

243. 7.9 Ikiru (1952)


248. 7.9 My Neighbour Totoro (1988)

249. 7.9 Arsenic and Old Lace (1944)

250. 7.9 The Philadelphia Story (1940)


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[Show spoiler]1. 9.1 The Shawshank Redemption (1994)
2. 9.1 The Godfather (1972)
3. 9.0 The Godfather: Part II (1974)
4. 8.9 The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966)
9. 8.8 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975)
11. 8.8 The Dark Knight (2008)
12. 8.8 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003)
15. 8.7 Casablanca (1942)
16. 8.7 Goodfellas (1990)
17. 8.7 Fight Club (1999)
19. 8.7 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)
19. 8.7 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)
23. 8.7 The Usual Suspects (1995)
25. 8.6 The Silence of the Lambs (1991)
26. 8.6 The Matrix (1999)
27. 8.6 Se7en (1995)
28. 8.6 Memento (2000)
29. 8.6 It's a Wonderful Life (1946)
30. 8.6 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002)
32. 8.6 Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964)
33. 8.6 North by Northwest (1959)
35. 8.6 Léon (1994)
37. 8.6 Forrest Gump (1994)
39. 8.5 American History X (1998)
42. 8.5 Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991)
45. 8.5 Amelie (2001) ( import)
46. 8.5 Saving Private Ryan (1998)
47. 8.5 WALL·E (2008)
48. 8.5 The Shining (1980)
49. 8.5 A Clockwork Orange (1971)
51. 8.4 The Departed (2006)
52. 8.4 The Pianist (2002)
55. 8.4 M (1931)
61. 8.4 Requiem for a Dream (2000) (us import)
62. 8.4 L.A. Confidential (1997)
63. 8.4 Reservoir Dogs (1992)
64. 8.4 The Third Man (1949) ( us import / coming soon)
69. 8.4 Pan's Labyrinth (2006)
71. 8.3 Raging Bull (1980)
72. 8.3 The Prestige (2006)
74. 8.3 Inglourious Basterds (2009)
75. 8.3 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
80. 8.3 Downfall (2004)
81. 8.3 Amadeus (1984)
82. 8.3 Full Metal Jacket (1987)
83. 8.3 Up (2009)
84. 8.3 Braveheart (1995)
85. 8.3 Cinema Paradiso (1988)
91. 8.3 The Green Mile (1999)
92. 8.3 Gran Torino (2008)
93. 8.3 The Elephant Man (1980)
94. 8.3 The Great Dictator (1940)
95. 8.3 Sin City (2005)
98. 8.3 Gladiator (2000)
100. 8.3 Slumdog Millionaire (2008)
102. 8.3 Avatar (2009)
105. 8.3 Unforgiven (1992)
108. 8.3 Batman Begins (2005)
109. 8.2 Die Hard (1988)
110. 8.2 Blade Runner (1982)
114. 8.2 Oldboy (2003)
115. 8.2 No Country for Old Men (2007)
117. 8.2 The Seventh Seal (1957)
118. 8.2 Fargo (1996)
120. 8.2 For a Few Dollars More (1965)
121. 8.2 The Wizard of Oz (1939)
122. 8.2 District 9 (2009)
123. 8.2 Heat (1995)
125. 8.2 Cool Hand Luke (1967)
126. 8.2 Donnie Darko (2001)
128. 8.2 The Sixth Sense (1999)
130. 8.2 The Deer Hunter (1978)
131. 8.2 There Will Be Blood (2007)
133. 8.2 Snatch. (2000)
134. 8.2 Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003)
136. 8.2 The General (1926) ( us import)
139. 8.1 Yojimbo (1961) ( us import)
140. 8.1 Into the Wild (2007)
141. 8.1 The Wrestler (2008)
142. 8.1 Ran (1985)
145. 8.1 Million Dollar Baby (2004)
149. 8.1 Life of Brian (1979)
150. 8.1 Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969) ( us import / import)
151. 8.1 The Bourne Ultimatum (2007)
152. 8.1 Toy Story (1995)
155. 8.1 Trainspotting (1996)
157. 8.1 Gone with the Wind (1939)
159. 8.1 The Terminator (1984) ( us import)
160. 8.1 Groundhog Day (1993) ( us import)
163. 8.1 The Thing (1982)
164. 8.1 Star Trek (2009)
166. 8.1 Dog Day Afternoon (1975) ( us import)
167. 8.1 Ratatouille (2007)
168. 8.1 Gandhi (1982)
169. 8.1 V for Vendetta (2005)
170. 8.1 Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels (1998)
171. 8.1 The Wages of Fear (1953) ( us import)
172. 8.1 Twelve Monkeys (1995)
176. 8.1 Casino (1995)
177. 8.1 8½ (1963) ( us import)
183. 8.0 The Princess Bride (1987) ( us import)
186. 8.0 The Wild Bunch (1969)
188. 8.0 Children of Men (2006)
190. 8.0 In Bruges (2008) ( import )
192. 8.0 Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (1927)
193. 8.0 The Kid (1921)
201. 8.0 Big Fish (2003)
204. 8.0 The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (2007) (import)
205. 8.0 Let the Right One In (2008)
206. 8.0 Kill Bill: Vol. 2 (2004)
207. 8.0 Magnolia (1999)
208. 8.0 Letters from Iwo Jima (2006)
209. 8.0 Rocky (1976)
212. 8.0 Mystic River (2003)
215. 8.0 Brief Encounter (1945)
216. 8.0 The African Queen (1951)
218. 8.0 Crash (2004/I)
219. 8.0 Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003)
220. 8.0 Bonnie and Clyde (1967)
226. 8.0 Patton (1970) (import)
227. 8.0 The 400 Blows (1959) ( us import)
229. 8.0 Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000)
230. 8.0 The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008)
231. 8.0 Changeling (2008)
232. 8.0 Little Miss Sunshine (2006)
234. 7.9 The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993)
235. 7.9 The Truman Show (1998)
239. 7.9 The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938) (import)
241. 7.9 Spartacus (1960) (import)
242. 7.9 Toy Story 2 (1999)
244. 7.9 Shaun of the Dead (2004)
245. 7.9 Monsters, Inc. (2001)
246. 7.9 Shutter Island (2010)
247. 7.9 Glory (1989)
57. 8.4 The Lives of Others (2006) (2010)
224. 8.0 Planet of the Apes (1968)
22. 8.7 Psycho (1960) (2010)


taking a look at them i imagine they will all come out eventually i suppose its a waiting game

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would you consider

chinatown , rosemary's baby , etc in the top 50 ??
The top 50 of what?

If you're talking personal favorites, Chinatown is in my top 20, but Rosemary's Baby probably wouldn't make my top 100, were I to attempt one.
 
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The top 50 of what?

If you're talking personal favorites, Chinatown is in my top 20, but Rosemary's Baby probably wouldn't make my top 100, were I to attempt one.
top 50 classics that allways sell well
 
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The number of people who won't buy it because it's the SE probably number in the hundreds at best. It's a very vocal minority. WHile the SEs can certainly use some surgery (han shoots first, killing the musical number in Jedi and the restoration of the yub yubs), structurally there's not much to complain about in the SEs. Obviously minty green lightsabers and other issues need to be taken care of.

Whatever reason Lucas gives at any particular time, the real reason is that he doesn't ever want to see those versions again because they frustrate him creatively to no end. Honestly I think it's far more important and likely to include a rifftrax Star Wars Holiday special in the box
The ONLY changes I want undone in the SEs are Greedo shooting first and the musical number in Jabba's palace and maybe Hayden as Anakin. I'm fine with everything else.

Its funny because I have decided that I no longer care about the originals. I watched them recently and they honestly felt like incomplete films. I don't know if I had been drinking the Lucas Kool-Aid or what.

The only reason I want the originals at this point is just so people will quit asking for it.
 
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