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scatcher · 04-23-2009, 05:14 PM

Why Monster HDMI cables don't give you a brighter, more natural picture:

- A packet of data containing A/V information is prepared for transmission.

- The sender looks at the data and performs a calculation on it to come up with a "parity" number.

- Both the data and the parity result are sent to the receiver.

- The receiver takes the data, performs the same calculation on it, and checks to make sure that their result matches the parity number. If it does, the data was received correctly.

- For the data packet to become corrupted enroute and for the parity information to also be corrupted in such a way that they now match while being incorrect is incredibly unlikely.

- If the parity check does NOT match, the packet is discarded, and the pixels that should have been coloured will be white. Because A/V information is time dependent, there's no point in retransmitting it.

- For all data packets to be corrupted in such a way that overall colour or sharpness is shifted while remaining valid is flat out impossible.

The result of cable-induced distortion is white specks (missing packets) or loss of connection. Under no circumstances will HDMI cables improve or degrade your brightness, sharpness, or colour.

Transition Minimized Differential Signaling

HDMI and TMDS

Y3k Bug · 04-23-2009, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wafi

Hmm isnt that gonna be a problem tryin to fish the cables inside the wall to the tv then?

I don't think they're all THAT inflexible. They're just not like...floppy.

If you're worried about making the bends to the TV, you could always use these:
HDMI Wall Plate

I keep trying to think of an excuse to need them, but haven't found one...yet!

wafi · 04-23-2009, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y3k Bug

I don't think they're all THAT inflexible. They're just not like...floppy.

If you're worried about making the bends to the TV, you could always use these:
HDMI Wall Plate

I keep trying to think of an excuse to need them, but haven't found one...yet!

Ha ha I dont the wife would like me going over the budget but I see what you mean, wouldnt mind them at all. Thx again!

azncarbos · 04-23-2009, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wafi

Ha ha I dont the wife would like me going over the budget but I see what you mean, wouldnt mind them at all. Thx again!

Very True...are you going hang the Pioneer right?

if you are on budget....I just go without the wall plate....

daevv · 04-23-2009, 06:58 PM

Whats the difference between HDMI 1.2 and 1.3 cables? Does the Xbox 360 require a certain one?

I use both my newly acquired Xbox and PS3 on the same 720p/1080i TV. Where I only have one HDMI cable(type unknown 6 foot $20 job) at the moment I switch it back and forth when using the systems. I notice on the 1080i or 720p setting the words, pop ups, and such on the PS3 look cleaner and crisper than the Xbox achievements and message popups which are blurry. I don't have the same game on both systems so I can't compare them but Mass Effect and Left 4 Dead both look good but say I'm playing one of them and someone sends me a msg that msg popup is blurred. Message is also blurry when not in a game aswell.

Is this because the Xbox should be using a different type of HDMI cable? Or is there a setting on my 360 I need to be checking as i'm a 360 noob?

Thx
~d

ThriceBB · 04-23-2009, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daevv

Whats the difference between HDMI 1.2 and 1.3 cables? Does the Xbox 360 require a certain one?

I use both my newly acquired Xbox and PS3 on the same 720p/1080i TV. Where I only have one HDMI cable(type unknown 6 foot $20 job) at the moment I switch it back and forth when using the systems. I notice on the 1080i or 720p setting the words, pop ups, and such on the PS3 look cleaner and crisper than the Xbox achievements and message popups which are blurry. I don't have the same game on both systems so I can't compare them but Mass Effect and Left 4 Dead both look good but say I'm playing one of them and someone sends me a msg that msg popup is blurred. Message is also blurry when not in a game aswell.

Is this because the Xbox should be using a different type of HDMI cable? Or is there a setting on my 360 I need to be checking as i'm a 360 noob?

Thx
~d

you need to check your 360 settings. they should be able to use the same hdmi. go under display settings. you have to manually switch the 360 to 1080p.

wafi · 04-23-2009, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azncarbos

Very True...are you going hang the Pioneer right?

if you are on budget....I just go without the wall plate....

Yezzur! Well atleast thinking bout it. Trying to decide between a stand or the wall mount. If the stand I end up liking [still surfing the net for it] costs more than getting it mounted then def will have it mounted. But at the moment kinda disinclined against mounting it since I wanna get it calibrated and not to mention get a decent surround system. Which isnt happening this year! I hear my wife calling I think she heard me type surround system lol

gradymay · 04-23-2009, 08:32 PM

This place has the cheapest prices I have found on the web for HDMI and other cables:

http://www.eforcity.com/

I ordered all of my 40' cables from this place.

wafi · 04-23-2009, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gradymay

This place has the cheapest prices I have found on the web for HDMI and other cables:

http://www.eforcity.com/

I ordered all of my 40' cables from this place.

Grady where did you get your TV Stand from? I'm in the market for one and your looks nice!

azncarbos · 04-23-2009, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wafi

Yezzur! Well atleast thinking bout it. Trying to decide between a stand or the wall mount. If the stand I end up liking [still surfing the net for it] costs more than getting it mounted then def will have it mounted. But at the moment kinda disinclined against mounting it since I wanna get it calibrated and not to mention get a decent surround system. Which isnt happening this year! I hear my wife calling I think she heard me type surround system lol

hahaha I was the same like you....

quick type something else!! hahahaha

check your inbox

Mr.White · 04-23-2009, 09:47 PM

Monster cables are just to damn high,the cheaper ones work just as good,trust me,save your hard earned $!!! use the $ you saved on a cheaper HDMI cable and get some more blu's instead! "Dont waste your money on a expensive pair of cables,you get more mileage with a cheap set of cables,it

s still MDMI to me!!!

HDTV1080P · 04-28-2009, 05:04 PM

Monster Cable lowers prices during recession

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...ice-cuts_N.htm

pacificvibes · 04-28-2009, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

Monster Cable lowers prices during recession

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...ice-cuts_N.htm

Nice try Monster, but still too high

My_Two_Cents · 04-28-2009, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

Monster Cable lowers prices during recession

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...ice-cuts_N.htm

LOL. Call me when they drop 90%. Maybe then I'll consider.

azncarbos · 04-28-2009, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

LOL. Call me when they drop 90%. Maybe then I'll consider.

hahahaha

emj007 · 05-02-2009, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azncarbos

hahahaha

I agree. I bought some HDMI Cables from Monoprice and the gold connector at the end broke off of one. I did find a place called CableGiant and they seem to have the thicker guage and better quality cables. I think HDMI is all the same but I also thing some are costructed a little better than other!

Does anyone have any good sources on Toss link cables?

crackinhedz · 05-02-2009, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emj007

I bought some HDMI Cables from Monoprice and the gold connector at the end broke off of one.

lifetime warranty, they woulda sent you a new one free of charge.

Have about 10 or so laying around the house, never had an issue.

azncarbos · 05-03-2009, 12:47 AM

I never had any problem with my...also I just got my new HDMI cable from monoprice today and they are much more flexable then before!

and it the in wall one too!!!!

mjbethancourt · 05-03-2009, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daevv

Whats the difference between HDMI 1.2 and 1.3 cables? Does the Xbox 360 require a certain one?

I use both my newly acquired Xbox and PS3 on the same 720p/1080i TV. Where I only have one HDMI cable(type unknown 6 foot $20 job) at the moment I switch it back and forth when using the systems. I notice on the 1080i or 720p setting the words, pop ups, and such on the PS3 look cleaner and crisper than the Xbox achievements and message popups which are blurry. I don't have the same game on both systems so I can't compare them but Mass Effect and Left 4 Dead both look good but say I'm playing one of them and someone sends me a msg that msg popup is blurred. Message is also blurry when not in a game aswell.

Is this because the Xbox should be using a different type of HDMI cable? Or is there a setting on my 360 I need to be checking as i'm a 360 noob?

Thx
~d

Considering that HDMI on an Xbox is basically a total fraud, it really shouldn't matter which one you use, as long as it connects your box to your TV.

fiddlestyx · 05-03-2009, 02:48 PM

Has anyone used the Insten HDMI cables? They look pretty sleek and I was tempted to pick a few up.

http://www.eforcity.com/pinshdmimb15.html

04-23-2009, 05:14 PM	#901
scatcher Member Member since:Jun 2007	Why Monster HDMI cables don't give you a brighter, more natural picture: - A packet of data containing A/V information is prepared for transmission. - The sender looks at the data and performs a calculation on it to come up with a "parity" number. - Both the data and the parity result are sent to the receiver. - The receiver takes the data, performs the same calculation on it, and checks to make sure that their result matches the parity number. If it does, the data was received correctly. - For the data packet to become corrupted enroute and for the parity information to also be corrupted in such a way that they now match while being incorrect is incredibly unlikely. - If the parity check does NOT match, the packet is discarded, and the pixels that should have been coloured will be white. Because A/V information is time dependent, there's no point in retransmitting it. - For all data packets to be corrupted in such a way that overall colour or sharpness is shifted while remaining valid is flat out impossible. The result of cable-induced distortion is white specks (missing packets) or loss of connection. Under no circumstances will HDMI cables improve or degrade your brightness, sharpness, or colour. Transition Minimized Differential Signaling HDMI and TMDS Last edited by scatcher; 04-23-2009 at 05:22 PM.

04-28-2009, 05:04 PM	#912
HDTV1080P Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 205	Monster Cable lowers prices during recession Monster Cable lowers prices during recession http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...ice-cuts_N.htm

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04-23-2009, 06:58 PM	#905
daevv Active Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Newfoundland! Blu-ray collection:81	Whats the difference between HDMI 1.2 and 1.3 cables? Does the Xbox 360 require a certain one? I use both my newly acquired Xbox and PS3 on the same 720p/1080i TV. Where I only have one HDMI cable(type unknown 6 foot $20 job) at the moment I switch it back and forth when using the systems. I notice on the 1080i or 720p setting the words, pop ups, and such on the PS3 look cleaner and crisper than the Xbox achievements and message popups which are blurry. I don't have the same game on both systems so I can't compare them but Mass Effect and Left 4 Dead both look good but say I'm playing one of them and someone sends me a msg that msg popup is blurred. Message is also blurry when not in a game aswell. Is this because the Xbox should be using a different type of HDMI cable? Or is there a setting on my 360 I need to be checking as i'm a 360 noob? Thx ~d

04-23-2009, 08:32 PM	#908
gradymay Member Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Dallas, TX Home Theater Gallery:14 Blu-ray collection:583 Blu-ray reviews:12	This place has the cheapest prices I have found on the web for HDMI and other cables: http://www.eforcity.com/ I ordered all of my 40' cables from this place.

04-23-2009, 09:47 PM	#911
Mr.White Banned Member since:Jan 2009 Blu-ray collection:502 Blu-ray reviews:29	Monster cables are just to damn high,the cheaper ones work just as good,trust me,save your hard earned $!!! use the $ you saved on a cheaper HDMI cable and get some more blu's instead! "Dont waste your money on a expensive pair of cables,you get more mileage with a cheap set of cables,it s still MDMI to me!!!

05-03-2009, 12:47 AM	#918
azncarbos Expert Member Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Santa Ana/Newport Beach Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:22 Trading Score:13	I never had any problem with my...also I just got my new HDMI cable from monoprice today and they are much more flexable then before! and it the in wall one too!!!!

05-03-2009, 02:48 PM	#920
fiddlestyx Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Apr 2009 Home Theater Gallery:16	Has anyone used the Insten HDMI cables? They look pretty sleek and I was tempted to pick a few up. http://www.eforcity.com/pinshdmimb15.html

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