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Old 09-25-2009, 09:32 PM   #1141
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Signal wise your not going to see a difference assuming the cable is built correctly & meets specifications just make sure the cable is no longer than 1.5 or 2 mtrs & that the cable is V1.3 compliant.
Having said that you don't wan't to buy the cheapest HDMI cable either like $5 cable made in China cause the manufacturing process might not be the best, I once bought a cheap cable & had issues with drop outs & freezing.
The only reason cables are expensive is cause the way they are built and the way they are terminated some feature silver-plated copper conductors, some feature double & even triple shielding which eliminates RFI (radio frequency interference) and EMI (electromagnetic interference) etc, etc, etc & of course cause they are a little heavier & might look good, I don't have a problem buying a more expensive cable.
We tend to spend a bit $$$$$ on our systems so spending a bit of $$$ on a cable doesn't hurt me, just my opinion

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Old 09-26-2009, 02:02 AM   #1142
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Which ever one you like from monoprice.
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Old 09-26-2009, 10:39 PM   #1143
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I suggest that anyone who is thinking of spending their hard earned dollars on over priced cables take a look at this first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIf8HLZK6a8&feature=fvw

Monster cable is a total waste of money as are any high priced cables.
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Old 10-01-2009, 09:39 AM   #1144
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But what good is a newer cable if your current gear doesn't support the newer tech.

Just a thought.
That looks pretty cool.
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Old 10-01-2009, 02:36 PM   #1145
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All HDMI cables work good.
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Old 10-01-2009, 08:38 PM   #1146
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http://www.cepro.com/article/hdmi_14...ue_or_false/K5
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:42 PM   #1147
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I just picked up 4 of the Emotiva HDMI cables (3 -1 meter) and (1 -2 meter)

They design of them is nice, they lay flat which is great and they are high speed. 4 cables for $104 with fed ex shipping. I thought that was pretty good. IMO
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Old 10-02-2009, 06:45 PM   #1148
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Monster cables tout GB/sec speeds on their packages and people feel safe that their cable has so much bandwidth. Don't be suckered in by a salesmen or fancy packages. Looking on monsters website they claim only their 1000 series is capable for the 120hz screens, x.v. color, HD audio, among other things.

When you boil it down... 1's and 0's are just that, 1's and 0's
http://www.monstercable.com/hdmi/HDM...formation.asp#
http://www.monstercable.com/hdmi/HDMI14.asp
http://www.monstercable.com/home_av/hdmi.asp

sure any hdmi can display video but when it comes down to todays tech and beyond i perfer cables that are advanced
that won't be obsolete in coming years
so i perfer to get a hdmi thats high speed like 13. or 15.8


http://www.hdmiinfo.org/pdf/HDMIVenuti.pdf 1.3 hdmi

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Old 10-02-2009, 07:08 PM   #1149
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http://www.monstercable.com/hdmi/HDM...formation.asp#
http://www.monstercable.com/hdmi/HDMI14.asp
http://www.monstercable.com/home_av/hdmi.asp

sure any hdmi can display video but when it comes down to todays tech and beyond i perfer cables that are advanced
that won't be obsolete in coming years
so i perfer to get a hdmi thats high speed like 13. or 15.8
IMO, Monster plays on FUD. And it sounds like you have bought into that.

When shopping for HDMI cables, the two factors to consider are: HDMI version and cables category.

You mention that you want a cable that supports high speed (13 or 15.8), but the current 1.4 spec (which has not changed from version 1.3, BTW) only supports 10.2 Gbps/340MHz (TDMS), 8.16 Gbps (video), and 36.86 Mbps (audio). Maximum resolution is 2560×1600p60 in version 1.3 and 4096x2160p24 in version 1.4.

Cables are broken out into two categories. Category 1 supports 720p/1080i and Category 2 supports 1080p.

So, I've always been confused as to what "magic" Monster adds to their cabling to make it much different than any others.

I've used Monster, Monoprice, and Blue jeans Cables. They all performed the same and I actually feel the Blue Jeans were the best constructed.
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Old 10-03-2009, 02:49 PM   #1150
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IMO, Monster plays on FUD. And it sounds like you have bought into that.

When shopping for HDMI cables, the two factors to consider are: HDMI version and cables category.

You mention that you want a cable that supports high speed (13 or 15.8), but the current 1.4 spec (which has not changed from version 1.3, BTW) only supports 10.2 Gbps/340MHz (TDMS), 8.16 Gbps (video), and 36.86 Mbps (audio). Maximum resolution is 2560×1600p60 in version 1.3 and 4096x2160p24 in version 1.4.

Cables are broken out into two categories. Category 1 supports 720p/1080i and Category 2 supports 1080p.

So, I've always been confused as to what "magic" Monster adds to their cabling to make it much different than any others.

I've used Monster, Monoprice, and Blue jeans Cables. They all performed the same and I actually feel the Blue Jeans were the best constructed.
+1

Monster isn't the only company resposible for FUD. It seems there's a lot of it in the a/v industry. I'm fairly new to all this, but I see a lot of it. I refer specifically to what I call the "peace of mind tax". Some are willing to adopt rituals or spend more than they should for peace of mind.
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:50 PM   #1151
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Define low-end and cheap? I'd put a 6' Monoprice/Bluejean Cat 2 28AWG cable up against the Monster 1000HD any day of the week and defy anyone to tell the difference in a blind test. For that reason, I say it is a waste of money spending 10-20X on marketing hype and pretty insulation. Yes, it's a good cable, but you can get identical performance at a fraction of the price.

What is it you are looking for? Someone to confirm that the 1000HD cable sufficiently passes a 1080p signal without sparklies, dropouts, pixelation, etc.? I'm sure it will, as will most other cables recommended in this thread. To me, that's the beauty of HDMI. If it doesn't work correctly, it will be readily apparent in the picture quality. If you happen to be in the tiny minority of folks who get a bad Monoprice (for example) cable, you simply call them up and they'll send a free replacement. Or simply buy several and always have a spare in case the unlikely does happen and your cable craps out on you.
cheap anything like $3.00-$10 cables made before dts-hd
those types and the person isn't serious about hometheatre
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Old 10-03-2009, 07:08 PM   #1152
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http://www.marketnews.ca/LatestNewsH...edCables.html#

well a high bandwidth is far superior over low bandwidth when it comes to hdtv

http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgur...N%26start%3D18

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Old 10-03-2009, 10:07 PM   #1153
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http://www.marketnews.ca/LatestNewsH...edCables.html#

well a high bandwidth is far superior over low bandwidth when it comes to hdtv

http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgur...N%26start%3D18


What are you trying to say with these links?? Version 1.4 does not exceed the max 10.2 Gbps spec. Therefore, any cables that support bandwidth above 10.2 Gbps are sort of useless. Don't you think?
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Old 10-04-2009, 12:45 AM   #1154
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I have a 6 ft Monoprice HDMI which cost me $3.56. To upgrade to the Silver Screen HDMI from Nordos, it will cost $315.00 plus tax=$342.56, 100 times what my Mono cost. IT BETTER make the ones "one-ier" and zeroes "zero-ier"
In the place of a zero the Silver Screen HDMI uses zero squared. That's worth the $342.56 difference. Wouldn't you rather receive your yearly salary squared each year rather than simply your salary? The only thing that could improve the Silver Screen HDMI would be to have it come in blue with the Blu-ray logo on it!!
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Old 10-04-2009, 12:53 AM   #1155
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cheap anything like $3.00-$10 cables made before dts-hd
those types and the person isn't serious about hometheatre
Oh, I understand now. One must pay 1000% markup for in order to cover the marketing budget for certain cables or else you are not 'serious' about home theater. This has got to be one of the most ignorant and uninformed post I've read around here in some time. In fact, it's so ridiculous that it is almost worthy of being my sig for awhile.

I'd ask you to explain how a $5 Monoprice (for example) Cat 2 cable will perform any differently than an expensive 'name-brand' cable, but I'm afraid the response would be so full of misinformation and FUD and we don't need any more of that around here confusing those who are truly looking for good advise.
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Old 10-04-2009, 01:00 AM   #1156
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What are you trying to say with these links?? Version 1.4 does not exceed the max 10.2 Gbps spec. Therefore, any cables that support bandwidth above 10.2 Gbps are sort of useless. Don't you think?
Ah, but see Lou, these are super-duper future-ready cables with a version of 1.4, which is bigger than 1.3, therefore they are better and well worth 30X the price of cables found elsewhere.

Sorry, if someday I need all of the future features, I'll simply spend another $10 on a quality set of inexpensive cables.
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Old 10-04-2009, 01:32 AM   #1157
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Ah, but see Lou, these are super-duper future-ready cables with a version of 1.4, which is bigger than 1.3, therefore they are better and well worth 30X the price of cables found elsewhere.

Sorry, if someday I need all of the future features, I'll simply spend another $10 on a quality set of inexpensive cables.


+1, because I plan on replacing all my current 1.3 components with 1.4 components immediately when they are released.
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Old 10-30-2009, 04:22 PM   #1158
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i've heard that all hdmi cables are the same but i get one that it say it runs 5gbps. i have a ps3 and i just bought cloverfield on blu ray and the definition of the picture is not well, I have a hd tv that supports 1080p and my ps3 has the latest software update and i'm thinking to buy a hdmi cable from sony, am i doing right or what else could be the problem, I got all the video settings to see the blu ray movie on the most pristine quality. HEEELP!!!!
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Old 10-30-2009, 04:27 PM   #1159
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F*** Monster. I get all my cables from bluejeanscable.com. Excellent quality, excellent customer service, great prices. Monster is for sales people.
Monoprice is also a good cable place!
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Old 10-30-2009, 04:30 PM   #1160
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Cloverfield can be a difficult film for a lot of televisions because of the predominantlly black pallete of the film and the excess of kinetic motion.

Do you have it connected by HDMI already? If so, and you are receiving an image then that should be fine and not the issue you are experiencing?

Have you calibrated your display with a Calibration disc like DVE HD Basics or had it professionally calibrated? If not, you may want to look at the suggested setting for your specific display in order to maximize the panels contrast and shadow detail. If your display is not properly calibrated it's possible that the contrast setting is crushing or mitigating detail that would normally be present.
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