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jc480 · 12-31-2008, 05:53 PM

Obi I'm not sure who you're directing your comments to.

According to the HDMI.org site, anything over 30 feet or w/e they recommend a repeater. I don't want that option and my home theater is a difficult install inside walls on an existing home over a distance of 35-ish feet.

It will be quite pricey to go back and fix if it doesn't work 100% the first time, hence my interest in a fiber optic solution.

gearyt · 12-31-2008, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ObiTrentKenobi

First of all, I love all you guys and girls!

Second;
Wow, most of you are so warped with your "digital is digital" falsehood.

Here's the truth, looke 'em up! There's a difference in bandwidth, some of you "tech geeks" should know about that, right?

End of debate.

should have done your research on Bandwidth.... use the search function

today... and probably tomorrow, digital is digital in this application
take any Blu-ray player, any movie, any display... you will not exceed bandwidth of monoprice cables

ps... many years as a digital designer....I understand bandwidth, rise, fall, times.... etc.

dobyblue · 12-31-2008, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ObiTrentKenobi

There's a reason for these ratings, Category 1 may OR MAY NOT support 1080p. Some category 1's only support the bandwidth required for 720p. ALL Category 2 1.3's are tested and guarantee 1080p video and HD audio.

That's incorrect because you leave out the refresh rate and the bit depth of the colour.

Let's look at uncompressed 1080p24 on Blu-ray Disc with 24-bit True Colour, representing the current encodings.

1920 * 1080 = 2073600 number of pixels
2073600 * 24 = 49766400 (8-bit color)
49766400 * 24 = 1194393600 (24 frames per second)
1194393600 / 8 = 149299200 convert to bytes/sec
149299200 / 1024 = 145800 convert to KB/sec
145800 / 1024 = 142.3828 convert to MB/sec

That's 1100 Mbps you would need for uncompressed 4:2:0 1080p24, as found on Blu-ray.
Add in the maximum possible audio rate, which is uncompressed 5.1 24/192 = 27.648 Mbps
That’s 1127.648 Mbps you’d need currently for the maximum uncompressed Blu-ray feed.
That converts to 1.10121875 Gbps for uncompressed 4:2:0 1080p24 with maximum PCM audio.
That means Monster’s lowest cable is still over twice as fast as they’re claiming you need for 720p/1080i without lossless multi-channel audio and it not Cat2 certified.

Cat1 = 2.25Gbps
1080p24 is 1.10Gbps

guitarist155 · 12-31-2008, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jc480

Obi I'm not sure who you're directing your comments to.

According to the HDMI.org site, anything over 30 feet or w/e they recommend a repeater. I don't want that option and my home theater is a difficult install inside walls on an existing home over a distance of 35-ish feet.

It will be quite pricey to go back and fix if it doesn't work 100% the first time, hence my interest in a fiber optic solution.

the problem with in-wall fiber is it can be damaged very easily, you have to make sure you don't go over the max bend radius and DO NOT get anything sharp near that cable, one nic in the cable sheath and that whole cable is down. i strongly recommend a BJC series-1 if you are that concerned with reliability, they have tested their cables at over 100ft, also before ever installing the cable in wall, connect everything the way you would with the new cable, then watch movies, etc on it for about a week or so moving the cable around every time you do,

TomHoang · 01-04-2009, 08:34 PM

I looked at some on bestbuy.com and they were everywhere from $50 to $300. Then I checked Ebay and found a whole bunch for $5 with free shipping. WTF?

lutefisk69 · 01-04-2009, 08:39 PM

Monoprice. Plain and simple. Check Monoprice.

TomHoang · 01-04-2009, 08:40 PM

I got one for $5. I just wanna know why the big electronic stores overprice them?

clownface · 01-04-2009, 09:12 PM

They charge outrageous prices because they can and most people don't know any better. I have made quite a few friends return the $70 cables that salesman sold them along with flat screen tv's. These vultures tell the customers they need these expensive cables to get good PQ & AQ. I have sent quite a few people to Amazon.com to get their cables for less than $10.
Pass the word.

dadkins · 01-04-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lutefisk69

Monoprice. Plain and simple. Check Monoprice.

Absolutely!

HDMI is digital - it either works or does not work.
$4.00 or $299.99 - you decide.

stahl7639 · 01-04-2009, 10:08 PM

Monoprice is a great site

AlexG · 01-04-2009, 10:15 PM

Try this site...i've ordered from them before as well.

http://www.mycablemart.com/

hardcorefrokid · 01-05-2009, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TomHoang

I looked at some on bestbuy.com and they were everywhere from $50 to $300. Then I checked Ebay and found a whole bunch for $5 with free shipping. WTF?

My pops made the mistake of buying a 12 foot HDMI cable at Best Buy for $80. A few months later we were at Sam's Club and found a 17 foot HDMI cable for $15. He threw a fit, as did I.

Lacit170 · 01-06-2009, 04:35 PM

Okay... over New Years a few people asked me why i didnt have an HDMI cord running from my cable box to my TV... Ive heard doing this is unnecessary... Is this true??

gearyt · 01-06-2009, 04:40 PM

It depends.... what do you have running.. 3 wire component, or single composite ??

Lacit170 · 01-06-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gearyt

It depends.... what do you have running.. 3 wire component, or single composite ??

im running a single component which consists of 3 colored wires

gearyt · 01-06-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lacit170

im running a single component which consists of 3 colored wires

I don't think you will see the difference

HDMI = DIgital + sound in one cable
Component = Analog + need for audio hook-up

blujacket · 01-06-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lacit170

im running a single component which consists of 3 colored wires

Red,blue, & green? Or yellow, red & white?

Pelican170 · 01-06-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by blujacket

Red,blue, & green? Or yellow, red & white?

he said component mang, its red, blue and green

blujacket · 01-06-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

he said component mang, its red, blue and green

I know what he said. People get component and composite mixed up all the time though.

Pelican170 · 01-06-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blujacket

I know what he said. People get component and composite mixed up all the time though.

haha, sorry, i forgot to put the "hahah" in to show i was just messing around with ya..

01-04-2009, 08:34 PM	#625
TomHoang Member Member since:Dec 2008 Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:15	HDMI price range I looked at some on bestbuy.com and they were everywhere from $50 to $300. Then I checked Ebay and found a whole bunch for $5 with free shipping. WTF?

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12-31-2008, 05:53 PM	#621
jc480 Power Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Detroit, MI Home Theater Gallery:28 4K collection:22 Blu-ray collection:747 DVD collection:10 Digital collection:882 Prime collection:2 Blu-ray reviews:15	Obi I'm not sure who you're directing your comments to. According to the HDMI.org site, anything over 30 feet or w/e they recommend a repeater. I don't want that option and my home theater is a difficult install inside walls on an existing home over a distance of 35-ish feet. It will be quite pricey to go back and fix if it doesn't work 100% the first time, hence my interest in a fiber optic solution.

01-04-2009, 08:39 PM	#626
lutefisk69 Senior Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Westminster, MD Blu-ray collection:427 DVD collection:1	Monoprice. Plain and simple. Check Monoprice.

01-04-2009, 08:40 PM	#627
TomHoang Member Member since:Dec 2008 Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:15	I got one for $5. I just wanna know why the big electronic stores overprice them?

01-04-2009, 09:12 PM	#628
clownface Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Brooklyn New York	They charge outrageous prices because they can and most people don't know any better. I have made quite a few friends return the $70 cables that salesman sold them along with flat screen tv's. These vultures tell the customers they need these expensive cables to get good PQ & AQ. I have sent quite a few people to Amazon.com to get their cables for less than $10. Pass the word.

01-04-2009, 10:08 PM	#630
stahl7639 Active Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Pittsburgh, PA Blu-ray collection:17 Blu-ray reviews:1	Monoprice is a great site

01-04-2009, 10:15 PM	#631
AlexG Blu-ray Guru Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Orange County Blu-ray collection:477 Trading Score:5	Try this site...i've ordered from them before as well. http://www.mycablemart.com/

01-06-2009, 04:35 PM	#633
Lacit170 Blu-ray Count Member since:Jun 2008 Location:CT 4K collection:99 Blu-ray collection:726 DVD collection:261 Trading Score:1	Okay... over New Years a few people asked me why i didnt have an HDMI cord running from my cable box to my TV... Ive heard doing this is unnecessary... Is this true??

01-06-2009, 04:40 PM	#634
gearyt Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Henderson, NV Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:33	It depends.... what do you have running.. 3 wire component, or single composite ??

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