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Constitution 101 · 04-21-2009, 06:13 PM

Don't the higher end monsters, etc. protect the signal from dot-crawl, etc.? When I switched to high-end monsters the "shimmering" in the corners of some screens disappeared and dots crawling upward on the logo screen on my blu-ray player stopped moving...Monster has a video of something called an "eye pattern" which measures interference w/ different cables. Aren't these cables designed by engineers? Maybe I'm missing something.

Constitution 101 · 04-21-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by crackinhedz

Bluejeanscable.com

you won't get a 'sharper image with more vibrant colors' when switching out cables. That's pretty much all in your head. (not to mention you can't switch out cables fast enough for your [visual] short term memory to make an accurate comparison.)

"It may be all 1's and 0's, but what is being sent over that cable is electric current. When too much current is sent over a shabby cable the device on the other end can't tell what is a 1 and what is a 0. The end result is video that is either jittery, full of digital snow, or flat-out not there."-Monster Cable

Is this true or not?

Y3k Bug · 04-21-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Constitution 101

"It may be all 1's and 0's, but what is being sent over that cable is electric current. When too much current is sent over a shabby cable the device on the other end can't tell what is a 1 and what is a 0. The end result is video that is either jittery, full of digital snow, or flat-out not there."-Monster Cable

Is this true or not?

Yes and No...There IS a threshold at which point devices can't tell if they're getting a 1 or a 0, but it is extremely forgiving (compared to analog) so it's not nearly as "sensitive" as they're making it sound. For short lengths, just about anything will work, and for longer runs you have to pay attention to quality of cable, but quality does not equal cost.

My_Two_Cents · 04-21-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Y3k Bug

Yes and No...There IS a threshold at which point devices can't tell if they're getting a 1 or a 0, but it is extremely forgiving (compared to analog) so it's not nearly as "sensitive" as they're making it sound. For short lengths, just about anything will work, and for longer runs you have to pay attention to quality of cable, but quality does not equal cost.

But the statement is true. Meaning, if you have a poor cable, it will be obvious in the picture (jittery, snow, not there). However, as Crack stated above, the cable will NOT make colors more vibrant or the picture sharper as some around here have claimed. For these folks, the mind sees what it thinks it should see.

wafi · 04-23-2009, 03:10 PM

Alright somebody pulleese point me toward some very good HDMI cable 12 feet in length from monoprice. There's just way too many kinds to filter thru at monoprice! And what in tarnations is 22AWG thru 28AWG all about? Why cant life be a lil simpler! I'm getting my TV mounted and I need atleast four HDMI cables. Willing to spend $100.

Y3k Bug · 04-23-2009, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wafi

And what in tarnations is 22AWG thru 28AWG all about?

AWG stands for American Wire Gauge. Basically the smaller the number, the thicker the conductor (wire,strand,what have you).

wafi · 04-23-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Y3k Bug

AWG stands for American Wire Gauge. Basically the smaller the number, the thicker the conductor (wire,strand,what have you).

So wiser to go with 22AWG then?

Y3k Bug · 04-23-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wafi

Alright somebody pulleese point me toward some very good HDMI cable 12 feet in length from monoprice.

This is certified 1.3 and CL 2 (so it can be run in a wall) 12 ft, 24 AWG. :

First One

Or you could go with this one which is cheaper, but has the ferrite core things on each end and is 28 AWG:

Second Choice

Either one would work fine for you I'm sure.

Y3k Bug · 04-23-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wafi

So wiser to go with 22AWG then?

That's a matter of personal choice. I prefer to go with 22-24 even in short lengths, but It's more out of paranoia than necessity. I'm sure 28 would work just fine.

RIPSeanTaylor21 · 04-23-2009, 03:36 PM

So What's wrong with Monster M-Series besides the price?

wafi · 04-23-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Y3k Bug

That's a matter of personal choice. I prefer to go with 22-24 even in short lengths, but It's more out of paranoia than necessity. I'm sure 28 would work just fine.

Thanks for all the info Y3k!

wafi · 04-23-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RIPSeanTaylor21

So What's wrong with Monster M-Series besides the price?

Absolutely nuthin...besides the price! I have been using Monster since I got my first flat screen but times are hard and I wanna save as much as I can so I'm going for monoprice!

azncarbos · 04-23-2009, 04:07 PM

but if you are going to do in wall installation I would go for these....
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

ThriceBB · 04-23-2009, 04:18 PM

so would this cable work just fine for just running to the receiver??

wafi · 04-23-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by azncarbos

but if you are going to do in wall installation I would go for these....
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

Great now I dunno which one to pick

since theyre both the same price!

Its either the one you recommended or the one Y3k recommended

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

azncarbos · 04-23-2009, 04:26 PM

they are both the same one.....

wafi · 04-23-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by azncarbos

they are both the same one.....

They are lol! Sorry about that! I'm seeing HDMI cables!

azncarbos · 04-23-2009, 04:55 PM

yup no worry man! LoL

just a FYI...the cable are thick and not really flexible

wafi · 04-23-2009, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by azncarbos

yup no worry man! LoL

just a FYI...the cable are thick and not really flexible

Hmm isnt that gonna be a problem tryin to fish the cables inside the wall to the tv then?

azncarbos · 04-23-2009, 05:02 PM

No it actually made installation really easy for me b/c I did a stright drop down from the Tv to the device....

04-21-2009, 06:13 PM	#881
Constitution 101 Power Member Member since:Mar 2009 4K collection:65 Blu-ray collection:257 Blu-ray reviews:12	What about shielding? Don't the higher end monsters, etc. protect the signal from dot-crawl, etc.? When I switched to high-end monsters the "shimmering" in the corners of some screens disappeared and dots crawling upward on the logo screen on my blu-ray player stopped moving...Monster has a video of something called an "eye pattern" which measures interference w/ different cables. Aren't these cables designed by engineers? Maybe I'm missing something.

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wafi Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:along the beltway Home Theater Gallery:26 Blu-ray collection:384 Blu-ray reviews: 11 Trading Score:4	Alright somebody pulleese point me toward some very good HDMI cable 12 feet in length from monoprice. There's just way too many kinds to filter thru at monoprice! And what in tarnations is 22AWG thru 28AWG all about? Why cant life be a lil simpler! I'm getting my TV mounted and I need atleast four HDMI cables. Willing to spend $100.

04-23-2009, 03:36 PM	#890
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04-23-2009, 04:07 PM	#893
azncarbos Expert Member Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Santa Ana/Newport Beach Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:22 Trading Score:13	but if you are going to do in wall installation I would go for these.... http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

04-23-2009, 04:18 PM	#894
ThriceBB Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008 Home Theater Gallery:23 Blu-ray collection:261	so would this cable work just fine for just running to the receiver??

04-23-2009, 04:26 PM	#896
azncarbos Expert Member Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Santa Ana/Newport Beach Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:22 Trading Score:13	they are both the same one.....

04-23-2009, 04:55 PM	#898
azncarbos Expert Member Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Santa Ana/Newport Beach Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:22 Trading Score:13	yup no worry man! LoL just a FYI...the cable are thick and not really flexible

04-23-2009, 05:02 PM	#900
azncarbos Expert Member Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Santa Ana/Newport Beach Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:22 Trading Score:13	No it actually made installation really easy for me b/c I did a stright drop down from the Tv to the device....

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