HDMI Cables

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by PUsokrJosh305

I just wanted to put my input in, not get chewed up.

PUsokrJosh, we do appreciate the input...and our fellow Bluray members do need to keep their composure on here.

Keep it civil fellas, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.


I think the point that some are trying to make is that when an HDMI signal degrades, it is very apparent. You get sparklies, signal drops etc.

If you get a perfect signal with one cable, it will be the same perfect signal with any other cable. Quality is identical.

Price makes no difference, only affects your wallet.

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

PUsokrJosh, we do appreciate the input...and our fellow Bluray members do need to keep their composure on here.

Keep it civil fellas, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.


I think the point that some are trying to make is that when an HDMI signal degrades, it is very apparent. You get sparklies, signal drops etc.

If you get a perfect signal with one cable, it will be the same perfect signal with any other cable. Quality is identical.

Price makes no difference, only affects your wallet.

Couldn't of said it any better crackenhedz

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

PUsokrJosh, we do appreciate the input...and our fellow Bluray members do need to keep their composure on here.

Keep it civil fellas, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Composure has been in check, and everything has remained civil. If not, I'm sure you wouldn't have hesitated to 'crack my head'!

[PUsokrJosh305]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

PUsokrJosh, we do appreciate the input...and our fellow Bluray members do need to keep their composure on here.

Keep it civil fellas, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.


I think the point that some are trying to make is that when an HDMI signal degrades, it is very apparent. You get sparklies, signal drops etc.

If you get a perfect signal with one cable, it will be the same perfect signal with any other cable. Quality is identical.

Price makes no difference, only affects your wallet.

I can see that, but we did want to protect our investment because my dad was tired of buying cables all the time, so we went with the expensive ones and be done with it. Now we never have to buy any new ones, unless if they make a new technology better than HDMI, then the whole process starts over again. To add, they also could have been bad cables in general and I didn't notice it till we upgraded to a better tv.

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

Composure has been in check, and everything has remained civil. If not, I'm sure you wouldn't have hesitated to 'crack my head'!

I didn't even have to say any names...

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by PUsokrJosh305

I can see that, but we did want to protect our investment because my dad was tired of buying cables all the time, so we went with the expensive ones and be done with it. Now we never have to buy any new ones, unless if they make a new technology better than HDMI, then the whole process starts over again. To add, they also could have been bad cables in general and didn't notice it till we upgraded to a better tv.

Don't ever say done ~ Its called upgrades

[PUsokrJosh305]

Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

Don't ever say done ~ Its called upgrades

True, lol!!

[BIslander]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

For 3D Bluray from a HDMI 1.4 Bluray player/Receiver/TV, you should get the "High Speed w/ Ethernet" cable.

I am not aware that ethernet has anything to do with 3D. HDMI.org says no new cable is needed for 3D:

All High Speed HDMI cables will support 3D when connected to 3D devices. You can use your existing High Speed HDMI cables or choose a different cable type.

Also, an ethernet cable is only useful when connected to an ethernet channel enabled connector.

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by BIslander

I am not aware that ethernet has anything to do with 3D. HDMI.org says no new cable is needed for 3D:

yes, you make a good point!

Also, an ethernet cable is only useful when connected to an ethernet channel enabled connector.

which is why I said "from a HDMI v1.4 Bluray player/Receiver/TV" ...they each have the ethernet channel.

And at $3-$10 a cable...why not anyway?!

[BIslander]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

which is why I said "from a HDMI v1.4 Bluray player/Receiver/TV" ...they each have the ethernet channel.

Are you sure about that? I think ethernet functionality is optional in HDMI 1.4.

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by BIslander

Are you sure about that? I think ethernet functionality is optional in HDMI 1.4.

To be honest, this whole HDMI v1.4 nonsense is very confusing to most...as is every other version!

but here was a good read from audioholics:

The Truth Behind HDMI 1.4a

...and from reading, this only confuses even more:

The big change from 1.4 was that 1.4a mandated two new 3D formats for broadcast on top of the game and Blu-ray formats.

...I have not made the jump to 3D, so I do not speak from any experience.

[Thorn2k]

Ok, here is a question. I got my TV, hooked up my old HDMI cables and it worked great!!

But, it would display up in the corner the resolution and the Hz. My TV handles 600Hz apparently and I tried it out on BR, PS3 and my cable box. The Hz never got above 100 even. My BR player never displayed that it was at 1080p. it was, 1019i or something. And the Hz on my BR was 60something.

Is that just the way it is? Or are my cables maybe not high speed?

Oh, here is the TV I have incase it matters: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-ehwk561....html?tp=35862

[oppopioneer]

Originally Posted by Thorn2k

Ok, here is a question. I got my TV, hooked up my old HDMI cables and it worked great!!

But, it would display up in the corner the resolution and the Hz. My TV handles 600Hz apparently and I tried it out on BR, PS3 and my cable box. The Hz never got above 100 even. My BR player never displayed that it was at 1080p. it was, 1019i or something. And the Hz on my BR was 60something.

Is that just the way it is? Or are my cables maybe not high speed?

Oh, here is the TV I have incase it matters: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-ehwk561....html?tp=35862

I would first buy some new "Category 2 High Speed" cables from Bluejeans or Monoprice. I use the Bluejeans Series F2 http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/...hdmi-cable.htm

http://www.monoprice.com/home/index.asp

NEVER pay more than $20 bucks for a 10 foot long or shorter cable!

[Mr. Joshua]

So what happend to cat 5/6 being the new standard. When does that take over?

[nickrodriguez]

I'm going to go on a little rant here...so if you don't want to hear it then don't listen.

I'm sick of people thinking because they know a guy who told them that cables are cables and don't buy the 200 dollar cable because it won't matter.

Now sometimes this is true. But you have to look at the facts and know what you are getting. Personally when it comes to me, I buy nothing other than Audioquest. Their low end cable starts a 44 dollars.

Yes digital is 1's and 0's and its either there or it is not. That is a true statement. But it is possible for a cheep cable to loose some of the 1's and 0's on its way to your TV or AV Receiver. Then you have your TV creating part of the picture that it didn't get from your Blu-Ray play. I don't know about you guys, but when I pay for a Blu-Ray Disc I want that picture showing up, not something my TV has to fill in the blanks for. Same goes for audio...

Ways I've seen to solve this, not necessarily running to best buy and buying their most expensive cable. But doing research.

Audioquest is from what I have seen the only company to use long grain copper in their cables...less of a chance of loosing the 1's and 0's down the cable. Their cables tips are also cold welded on so again you are less likely to have a loss of data down the cable. Not to mention any audioquest cable you buy today is ready for 3D and 2K/4K resolution. Is your bluejeans cable ready for 4K resolution? Most likely not. Audioquest is also using silver, a better conductor, in it's higher end cables.

Also with a lot of premium cables you are getting a "cable for life". If it ever breaks or is outdated it will be replaced for free. Now for me that is worth paying a little extra for.

My thought is...If you've just spend well over 1K on your fancy new LED/LCD TV why connect it with cheap cables?

Thanks for listening to my Rant....I'll be here all week.

[BIslander]

Two issues.

1. If some of those 1s and 0s are lost, what happens? With digital, it's easy to see the consequence. It's not a loss of resolution or clarity or other quality variations. You see digitization, sparklies, and other clear errors.

2. If two cables meet specifications, how does one perform better than another?

[Deadset]

Originally Posted by nickrodriguez

I'm going to go on a little rant here...so if you don't want to hear it then don't listen.

I'm sick of people thinking because they know a guy who told them that cables are cables and don't buy the 200 dollar cable because it won't matter.

Now sometimes this is true. But you have to look at the facts and know what you are getting. Personally when it comes to me, I buy nothing other than Audioquest. Their low end cable starts a 44 dollars.

No offense, but as someone who used to design digital circuit boards, I know a thing or two about digital signals. To me, your post reads as an advertisement. Telling people that this IS the only way they are truly going to have flawless operation is simply not true.

[rpneuss]

Originally Posted by Deadset

No offense, but as someone who used to design digital circuit boards, I know a thing or two about digital signals. To me, your post reads as an advertisement. Telling people that this IS the only way they are truly going to have flawless operation is simply not true.

Agreed. I have no problem with people coming in here and giving opinions. I do have a problem with people coming in here and chiming in like an expert when it's plain as day they don't have a clue. I'm a pretty avid videophile and I can tell everyone in here without a shadow of a doubt that I see no quality difference on my HDTV screen between the excellent $3 cables I now buy from monoprice and the stupid $70 monster cable I bought when I was ignorant. I don't mean any offense by that last part, I really just didn't know any better and bought into the advertising gimmicks at Best Buy and what not. In the end if you're happy buying overpriced cables then that's your right. Just don't come in here claiming that option is superior to the monoprice route.

[Stitch1]

I don't want to come across as mean or anything but for one 3ft Audioquest cable you could get 15 3ft monoprice cables . I have 4 6ft 1 40ft and 1 50ft mono price hdmi cables and all of them work with no issues. I did have sparkles with a "Microsoft" cable that came with my 360

[rpneuss]

Originally Posted by Stitch1

I don't want to come across as mean or anything but for one 3ft Audioquest cable you could get 15 3ft monoprice cables . I have 4 6ft 1 40ft and 1 50ft mono price hdmi cables and all of them work with no issues. I did have sparkles with a "Microsoft" cable that came with my 360

It really blows my mind how companies rip people off. I wonder what the markup is on that audioquest cable? 1500%??