HDMI Cables

[lutefisk69]

Did you try another cable? Were any settings changed? Try to set up two of the same players so you can switch it back and forth, and make sure the settings are the same. This is great... Just think you need to keep going to truly confirm this.

[Captain Kirk]

I looked up Audioquest cables and the reviews weren't exactly awesome for them. I use some hdmi cables I picked up at a local store, I think Philips brand, and have done so since I've had an HDTV, so at least 7 years. I've bought new ones over time for other TVs and I haven't had any issues and the picture is quite sharp and accurate. I would have to see a side by side comparison that blows my mind before I'd spend nearly $300 on cables.

[My_Two_Cents]

I guess it's been long enough around here that it's not surprising some AV "genius" comes back in claiming all of the usual visual improvements BS regarding HDMI cables. Obviously, this individual either failed to read through this thread to fully understand how an HDMI cable works or is simply not capable of understanding the facts.

To simplify: An HDMI cable will NOT make blacker blacks, colors brighter, the image softer/sharper, improve contrast or improve brightness. Regardless of what you THINK you saw, it's just not the case with a digital signal and has been proven time and again. If the picture is clear, with no snow, sparklies, etc., the cable is doing what it was designed to do.

[WilliaBe]

Originally Posted by shadylpete

So here's the deal. I work at Best Buy, I've been there for about a year. When I started working there I was just like everyone in here. HDMI is HDMI, regardless of price. I even use 4 monoprice HDMI cables in my current setup and have never had a problem. I promoted Audioquest cables during my run so far because I was told they were better, but I never believed it.

Until now...We have the 70" Elite from Pioneer & Sharp, setup with a Pioneer BD Player looping Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland [The opening scene when she first enters wonderland] using an Audioquest Carbon Cable, which retails for about $279. I told a co-worker of mine that I could replace the cable with our $24.99 Dynex cable and the quality would not be any different. So I went ahead and changed the out the cable. Almost instantly you noticed a significant difference. Her skin tone looked like a light shad of blue, the finer details in the White Rabbit were gone and the edges of Tweddle Dee & Tweedle Dum were very soft.

Keep in mind, I've watched this scene hundreds of times and this time is looked very wrong. I've become a believer that even though it's 1's & 0's, how the data gets there seems to matter quite a bit.

I know there's going to be people on here who claim that I'm only saying this because I work at Best Buy and I'm trying to drive sales, and that's fine. I expect that sort of reply from some people.

shadylpete - Very brave of you to post this feedback here. Two years ago I conducted a similar exercise in my home pitting a Wireworld silver starlight HDMI cable vs a Dynex 2M HDMI cable. The difference was notable with the picture quality being vastly superior using the Wireworld silver starlight HDMI cable.

My belief is that video and sound quality can be increased when an HDMI cable uses higher quality connectors, shielding and internal cable materials. These factors contribute to increased SNR which can positively affect BER levels of digital transmission.

http://www.fiberoptics4sale.com/word...-ratio-tester/

[JimShaw]

Originally Posted by shadylpete

So here's the deal. I work at Best Buy, I've been there for about a year. When I started working there I was just like everyone in here. HDMI is HDMI, regardless of price. I even use 4 monoprice HDMI cables in my current setup and have never had a problem. I promoted Audioquest cables during my run so far because I was told they were better, but I never believed it.

Until now...We have the 70" Elite from Pioneer & Sharp, setup with a Pioneer BD Player looping Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland [The opening scene when she first enters wonderland] using an Audioquest Carbon Cable, which retails for about $279. I told a co-worker of mine that I could replace the cable with our $24.99 Dynex cable and the quality would not be any different. So I went ahead and changed the out the cable. Almost instantly you noticed a significant difference. Her skin tone looked like a light shad of blue, the finer details in the White Rabbit were gone and the edges of Tweddle Dee & Tweedle Dum were very soft.

Keep in mind, I've watched this scene hundreds of times and this time is looked very wrong. I've become a believer that even though it's 1's & 0's, how the data gets there seems to matter quite a bit.

I know there's going to be people on here who claim that I'm only saying this because I work at Best Buy and I'm trying to drive sales, and that's fine. I expect that sort of reply from some people.

I couple years ago I did my own test to see if HDMI cables made a difference.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ht=my+personal
and AudioQuest cables were used along with a tour of the factory.

I did not test against a Dynex. It was a Monoprice and my conclusion was there wasn't a bit of video difference from what I could see between all the cables used.

Possibly, You had a bad Dynex cable. Did you switched it out to try another? If not, your testing is incomplete.




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[lokir1]

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How does a cable make this better?
Weve all had computers for awhile now im sure but ive never in all my yrs of upgrading or buying a new computer been told buying expensive cables wilk make it better faster.

[jonmoz]

Originally Posted by WilliaBe

shadylpete - Very brave of you to post this feedback here. Two years ago I conducted a similar exercise in my home pitting a Wireworld silver starlight HDMI cable vs a Dynex 2M HDMI cable. The difference was notable with the picture quality being vastly superior using the Wireworld silver starlight HDMI cable.

My belief is that video and sound quality can be increased when an HDMI cable uses higher quality connectors, shielding and internal cable materials. These factors contribute to increased SNR which can positively affect BER levels of digital transmission.

http://www.fiberoptics4sale.com/word...-ratio-tester/

It's just when people claim a vastly superior picture quality when using more expensive cables I tend to think one of the cables had a fault,as to be fair there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest even the slightest difference in picture quality when using better hdmi cables.

And there seems to be a lot of people stating the opposite findings when experimenting between more and less expensive cables.

[Almadacr]

Co'on guys , give him a break he works at best buy

[JimShaw]

Generally the more expensive cables have a 10% to 100% silver wire content.

Such as:
AudioQuest's Carbon, Coffee, and their Diamond
WireWorld's Starlight, Silver Starlight and their Platinum Starlight
and other makes.

Mr. Miller (President of AudioQuest) told me that the video of the more expensive cables will not be any different than the less expensive cables. Where the difference lies is between the expensive cables is in audio. The wires that run the length of the expensive cables are generally 10% to 100% silver making a major leap in audio not video.




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[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by shadylpete

Keep in mind, I've watched this scene hundreds of times and this time is looked very wrong. I've become a believer that even though it's 1's & 0's, how the data gets there seems to matter quite a bit.

Originally Posted by WilliaBe

My belief is that video and sound quality can be increased when an HDMI cable uses higher quality connectors, shielding and internal cable materials. These factors contribute to increased SNR which can positively affect BER levels of digital transmission.

So your perceptions trump the dozens of independent, controlled studies that have proven over and over that there is ZERO difference in picture quality between HDMI cables? Enjoy wasting your money, but please stop trying to convince others that all of the professionals (and physics) are wrong.

Once independent and controlled studies prove picture quality (color, contrast, brightness, sharpness, etc.) can be positively affected by an HDMI cable, I'll be happy to read them and reconsider my position. Any links proving this, yet?

And that linked BER article is irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Of course data loss will result in problems. That's what happens when you see sparklies, snow, dropouts, crackling, etc. with poor quality cables. It has NOTHING to do with video/audio quality aspects other than that, and nowhere is that claimed.

[TheFactor]

[crazyBLUE]

What's an HDMI cable

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

What's an HDMI cable

I think it's this:

[TheFactor]

Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

What's an HDMI cable

What he said

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

I think it's this:

Is that the high dollar goods ?

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

I think it's this:

I thought that is what it looked like Rick

[crazyBLUE]

Took this picture / screen shot yesterday. This is a 25 foot HDMI cable I bought for 25 dollars (Brand new) at a computer store outlet. I think it runs from my receiver to the projector

I think it is doing it's job quite well

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

Took this picture / screen shot yesterday. This is a 25 foot HDMI cable I bought for 25 dollars (Brand new) at a computer store outlet. I think it runs from my receiver to the projector

I think it is doing it's job quite well

[Show spoiler]

Very nice, but I bet if you spent another $800 on a "high-quality" cable, you may just get the picture detailed enough to catch a glimpse of Leia's nipples popping through her robes!

[TheFactor]

Looking good Brent

[TheFactor]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

Very nice, but I bet if you spent another $800 on a "high-quality" cable, you may just get the picture detailed enough to catch a glimpse of Leia's nipples popping through her robes!

That in it self would be worth it

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

Very nice, but I bet if you spent another $800 on a "high-quality" cable, you may just get the picture detailed enough to catch a glimpse of Leia's nipples popping through her robes!

Really Off I go to buy a 1,000 dollar cable ~ Not

Originally Posted by TheFactor

Looking good Brent

Thanks Ed