Star Wars on Blu-ray?

[Blu-Ron]

Originally Posted by Beast

That will never happen. The original cuts arn't even being maintained any longer.

The best you'll get if Lucas is generous is a release of the Laserdisc ports like is now on DVD.

And those looked horrible.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ron

And those looked horrible.

They don't look bad upconverted. They look better than my Laserdiscs.

[naturephoto1]

I personally liked the added material that was not possible when the original films were made. It filled in information that could not be included in the original films.

Rich

[Beast]

Originally Posted by naturephoto1

I personally liked the added material that was not possible when the original films were made. It filled in information that could not be included in the original films.

Rich

So do I. Only scene I don't like is Luke's altered line of dialogue in Empire.

"You're lucky you don't taste very good." is way better than "You're lucky you got out of there."

[dv8pdx]

Sadly, we will get what we get when Lucas sees fit to give us what he wants to give us, at his time, under his wishes and the versions he sees fit. Lucas has never been one to listen to the screams of his fans that MADE him who he is. Its the Lucas Way or the Milky "it" Way".

He's gotta have the biggest ego of Directors that can't even direct!! Some reason Paris Hilton came to mind

but no doubt, I'll be in line for the SWS on blu!

[Beast]

Originally Posted by dv8pdx

Sadly, we will get what we get when Lucas sees fit to give us what he wants to give us, at his time, under his wishes and the versions he sees fit. Lucas has never been one to listen to the screams of his fans that MADE him who he is. Its the Lucas Way or the Milky "it" Way".

He's gotta have the biggest ego of Directors that can't even direct!! Some reason Paris Hilton came to mind

but no doubt, I'll be in line for the SWS on blu!

He's an artist. It's his right to do whatever he wants with the films.

And if he had a huge ego, he wouldn't make appearances on Robot Chicken or allow people to make fun of him on Family Guy. He's incredibly easy going and down to earth if you follow people who know him or who have worked with him. He's just a perfectionist. And unfortunatly, he'll never see the Star Wars films as finished.

As George is so fond of saying... "Films are never completed they're just abandoned."

[kamphausd1]

Originally Posted by Beast

He's an artist. It's his right to do whatever he wants with the films.

And if he had a huge ego, he wouldn't make appearances on Robot Chicken or allow people to make fun of him on Family Guy. He's incredibly easy going and down to earth if you follow people who know him or who have worked with him. He's just a perfectionist. And unfortunatly, he'll never see the Star Wars films as finished.

As George is so fond of saying... "Films are never completed they're just abandoned."

First of all, nobody says he can't put out the version of the movie he wants, it's his right to do so. But he has a responsibility to his fan base dammit, and the majority of the fan base wants the original unaltered versions released. It wouldn't be a hassle to release both versions on the same disc via seamless branching. And Lucas can't use that excuse about how he won't spend millions of dollars to restore them, because Robert Harris offered to do it free of charge, but that pompous old fart Lucas never even responded to the offer.

Second, many of you fans out there who follow Lucas blindly repeat his statements as if they're fact, that they completely belong to him and he'll do whatever he wants with them regardless of what the loyal fans want. Well, I've got news for you, that's not the way that film fandom and film distribution works. I mean, when coca cola changed the flavor of the drink and people didn't like it, imagine what would've happened if they'd proclaimed to the public "It's our product, not yours, we make it so we should be allowed to do whatever we want with it regardless of what all you customers want, so were not changing it back. We should have it our way". Think about it. Once a film is distributed to the mass public and once it becomes so ingrained in the culture and people's lives (especially something as popular and cultural as Star Wars) then we have a right to it just as much as the creator does.

[Blu-Ron]

Originally Posted by kamphausd1

the majority of the fan base wants the original unaltered versions released.

Amen Bro!

[dv8pdx]

Originally Posted by Beast

He's an artist. It's his right to do whatever he wants with the films.

And if he had a huge ego, he wouldn't make appearances on Robot Chicken or allow people to make fun of him on Family Guy. He's incredibly easy going and down to earth if you follow people who know him or who have worked with him. He's just a perfectionist. And unfortunatly, he'll never see the Star Wars films as finished.

As George is so fond of saying... "Films are never completed they're just abandoned."

My jabs weren't at him as a person, never met him, so I can't judge him on that level, nor would I, he's a director/producer wanting to make money off his work. My point was for 20 years, people grew up with the original versions of the original trilogy, then in 97 he changed them all, and it turned out good with new technology, fixing little things 1977 couldn't do. But then didn't want to give the world the original version back to us with DVD, saying I've changed the movie, live with it. It took another 10 years to finally get those after he finally gave into Fan Demand. So I don't think we'll see the original versions on Blu cause like you said He'll never see his films as finished, yet this is what he gave us and this is what many of us grew up with and what created a legacy in the film world. Isn't it our right to have these films that he gave us that made him a star and rewrote the movie making world. - the original version are iconic movies, not the re-release versions. Would you like to get your hands on the mona lisa, or are you ok with a new repainted, altered updated version. (crude referance, but you get the idea) For me, I want both.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by kamphausd1

First of all, nobody says he can't put out the version of the movie he wants, it's his right to do so. But he has a responsibility to his fan base dammit, and the majority of the fan base wants the original unaltered versions released. It wouldn't be a hassle to release both versions on the same disc via seamless branching.

He doesn't have a responsibility to anyone.

And yes, it would be a hassle. It would require attempting to piece back together the original versions and pay to have them restored. There's so many minor tweaks you also couldn't use seamless branching to do that. Lucas sees no reason to bother with the time and cost involved for what he considers an inferior product.

And Lucas can't use that excuse about how he won't spend millions of dollars to restore them, because Robert Harris offered to do it free of charge, but that pompous old fart Lucas never even responded to the offer.

Because there's no response to offer.

Lucas considers the original cuts to be nothing more than workprint cuts. They're not worthy of being restored and re-released. They're archival material at best, that's why they were released non-animorphic without further restoration in the 2-Disc releases a couple years ago. Honestly, he should have never even done that.

Well, I've got news for you, that's not the way that film fandom and film distribution works. I mean, when coca cola changed the flavor of the drink and people didn't like it, imagine what would've happened if they'd proclaimed to the public "It's our product, not yours, we make it so we should be allowed to do whatever we want with it regardless of what all you customers want, so were not changing it back. We should have it our way". Think about it. Once a film is distributed to the mass public and once it becomes so ingrained in the culture and people's lives (especially something as popular and cultural as Star Wars) then we have a right to it just as much as the creator does.

Changing a few special effects shots and a few other things doesn't change the movie.

The exact same story is there on the film. Just with some tweaks to satisfy the creator.

Equating it to Coca Cola doesn't exactly work in this particular case.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by dv8pdx

Isn't it our right to have these films that he gave us that made him a star and rewrote the movie making world. - the original version are iconic movies, not the re-release versions. Would you like to get your hands on the mona lisa, or are you ok with a new repainted, altered updated version. (crude referance, but you get the idea) For me, I want both.

Nope. The movies are his to do with as he wishes.

Other than the altered scenes and effects, the films are still the same. There's no signifigant changes to the films that alter the narrative. It's still the hero's journey, simply with some updated effects here and there.

And if Leonardo Da Vinci was still alive and felt his painting was unfinished, yes. I'm all for it.

[Blu-Ron]

Originally Posted by Beast

Nope. The movies are his to do with as he wishes.

Other than the altered scenes and effects, the films are still the same. There's no signifigant changes to the films that alter the narrative. It's still the hero's journey, simply with some updated effects here and there.

And if Leonardo Da Vinci was still alive and felt his painting was unfinished, yes. I'm all for it.

LOL. You lose credibility with every post. So making Greedo shoot first isn't "altering the narrative"?

[Mr. Al]

Bringing this old thread up is pointless. It's going to a another few more years before we see any flicks on Blu.

At least the Clone Wars is coming out soon. I really enjoyed this one in the theater.

[dv8pdx]

Originally Posted by Beast

Nope. The movies are his to do with as he wishes.

Sorry, have to disagree. As his friend/colleague/co-writer/director of his IJ movies, Steven Speilberg said, and I quote, in the special features of Indy 4, "We created Indiana Jones, but it belongs to the world, and now we are thier custodians."

Hear that George? Same goes for Star Wars.

[Lucy Diamond]

They'll find some way to F it all up.

Ewoks in cadilacs.

Han, Greedo and Chewie giving eachother "that look"...paying the barkeep for something entirely different. Yep...I can just hear the clean highly compressed guitars in the back ground with the heavy wah.

I'm scared.

[kamphausd1]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ron

LOL. You lose credibility with every post. So making Greedo shoot first isn't "altering the narrative"?

Eh, let it go blu ron. No matter how hard you try, you just can't get through to these Lucas worshipers.

[GORT]

This is funny a Three year old thread that had only two posts has now grown into three pages and counting

[ixlegitballinxl]

im assuming lucas will wait until there is a blu-ray player in every household... that way he can sell more copies of it lol

[andyman1970]

Originally Posted by brett_day

i do not think they will release anything short of spectacular, especially when it comes to 3 of the greatest movies ever made! and by 3 i mean a new hope, empire strikes back and return of the jedi!

I agree. These are the only Star Wars movies that matter to me. However, I'm afraid I will have to rent these first to see if George Lucas decides to place the image of Sebastian Shaw, the actor how originated the role of Anakin Skywalker back as the Force ghost image at the end of Jedi. If not I will not buy them at all. I believe this was an insult to Shaw's memory and an insult to all the fans that grew up going to see the original trilogy at the movies making them the huge success they are.

[Blu-Ron]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

I agree. These are the only Star Wars movies that matter to me. However, I'm afraid I will have to rent these first to see if George Lucas decides to place the image of Sebastian Shaw, the actor how originated the role of Anakin Skywalker back as the Force ghost image at the end of Jedi. If not I will not buy them at all. I believe this was an insult to Shaw's memory and an insult to all the fans that grew up going to see the original trilogy at the movies making them the huge success they are.

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