4K Movies Releases

[kristoffer]

Has IR and burn-in been resolved in OLED?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

It's a speech impediment I have.

I’m humbled with the publicly expressive acknowledgement. I truly am . The honor is mine, for you guys could be reading a plethora of other internet sites during your web surfing. All I can add is that even if everyone doesn't understand the postings or appreciate them at the time, for an example (2008)…
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...de#post1432708

and the information may take months or years (2011) https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...st#post4453123 ) to be proven true and accurate…. eventually, it all is.

I would easilly fit in the bracket of folk that don't fully understand all the technical terms, despite my love of tech (even phones, as long as they are not used for movies ) however, I visit this section daily and the end result for me, as a consumer, is hopefully glorious 4k with the best delivery format available. To that end, I follow you guys very carefully, as the only way to learn is to pick up on the various terms used in this thread.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by kristoffer

Has IR and burn-in been resolved in OLED?

I suggest you visit the LG 55EG960 owners thread on AVforum (UK). Many owners there, and the actual owners that game report IR and burn in are not a problem.

Also: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ole...input-lag.html

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

I suggest you visit the LG 55EG960 owners thread on AVforum (UK). Many owners there, and the actual owners that game report IR and burn in are not a problem.

Also: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ole...input-lag.html

Yet, oled takes a long time to burn in

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

I suggest you visit Also: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ole...input-lag.html

ray, RAY… for the reasons described by HeavyHitter, some of us serious Blu-ray movie collectors don’t cotton much to making it so easy to access
their forum with direct links…..unless, if one has a lot of time on their hands, to correct some nonsense over thar.

I mean really, by directly linking to the site in that way, you’re helping the owners and employees over there (viewer hits -> advertising deals) to succeed off the backs of readers of Blu-ray.com….the physical media of which has been disparaged , on their home page no less, by those on the payroll.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I would easilly fit in the bracket of folk that don't fully understand all the technical terms, despite my love of tech (even phones, as long as they are not used for movies ) however, I visit this section daily and the end result for me, as a consumer, is hopefully glorious 4k with the best delivery format available. To that end, I follow you guys very carefully, as the only way to learn is to pick up on the various terms used in this thread.

Good attitude.

People shouldn’t dismiss their capabilities or lower their aspirations. Always aim high and drive hard in work or play; otherwise, you just stagnate. There is actually a student from RIT who is a full voting member on a SMPTE technical standards committee….despite his youth and relative inexperience to other older membership.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

SMPTE

For those who may have missed a previous posting due to Spring Break and such,

this is not immediately Blu-ray related and has no hidden meaning(s) as to upcoming news or announcements, but represents a friendly Reminder to those open to learning more than what they already know -
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...l#post10652499

And before anyone thinks in their minds ‘hey Penton, you’re helping SMPTE “to succeed off the backs of readers of Blu-ray.com”, well, firstly no current SMPTE officer, at least that I know of, has made anti-Blu-ray comments and secondly, SMPTE is a non-profit scientific, educational or cultural institution qualified under section 501 (c) 3 of the IRS code.

[Penton-Man]

^
P.S.
For those who end up being inspired by watching the Blu-ray American Sniper (https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Ameri...6019/#Overview ) and feel like contributing to the cause of military and first responder families, this is another non-profit…https://www.chriskylefrogfoundation....og-foundation/

[spectre08]

not a movie release, but I noticed today that Video Game High School is now in UHD on Netflix

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

I suggest you visit the LG 55EG960 owners thread on AVforum (UK). Many owners there, and the actual owners that game report IR and burn in are not a problem.

Also: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ole...input-lag.html

Looking at the UK 960 forum a few people seem to be having problems with screen uniformity though, just as with the previous curved 930 series. I've said it before and I'll say it again: OLED might well be the Holy Grail as far as direct-view TV tech is concerned, but unless someone else enters the consumer-level fray and forces LG to up their game it's gonna be hindered by just as many little niggles and problems as LCD is. Different niggles, sure, but they're niggles all the same and when you've spent several grand on a TV that's supposed to be the dog's bollocks* the last thing you be wantin' is niggles.


*the best

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Looking at the UK 960 forum a few people seem to be having problems with screen uniformity though, just as with the previous curved 930 series. I've said it before and I'll say it again: OLED might well be the Holy Grail as far as direct-view TV tech is concerned, but unless someone else enters the consumer-level fray and forces LG to up their game it's gonna be hindered by just as many little niggles and problems as LCD is. Different niggles, sure, but they're niggles all the same and when you've spent several grand on a TV that's supposed to be the dog's bollocks* the last thing you be wantin' is niggles.


*the best

I agree. We need competition and I think we will get it. OLED is inherently cheaper to manufacture than LCD, but all we are getting is premium pricing from LG Electronics.

If I am right, this will change, hopefully by the time I get serious about purchasing an OLED in 2016. See: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...0#post10707150

Regarding the AV forum 960 owners thread: I think we are seeing a combination of buyer's remorse (it will pass), and some actual issues with a few of the displays. More recent posts show the retailers unable to replenish inventories of the 960 fast enough to meet demand.

There are a few U.S. owner's discussing them on the AVS forum owner's thread. The LG55EG9600 and the LG65EG9600 are on the cusp of official release here in the U.S, so we will probably see more reviews in May or June.

Have you seen one of these sets? I saw the 55EC9300 at a local retailer, and I had a visceral response to the black levels. That is what will drive demand for these displays.

“We can raise the ceiling, but it’s often a lot more impactful to drop the floor as well,” says Turner. “If you have a really bright sun on an image, you tend to push people back. But the dark shadow detail, which are unexplored in most movies, actually draw people in. Movies like the Dark Knight Trilogy have a lot of black in them, but there’s a lot of shadow detail that’s never been seen by consumers. With the ability to do absolute black, you can then do some gradients in gray that can bring enormous extra detail, which consumers have never seen.”

Turner confirms what we’ve witnessed firsthand when reviewing OLED TVs: Getting true blacks is crucial toward an amazing, eye-popping image. OLED can do that better than anything else on the market. But Dolby Vision says that brightness is really important, too.

Mark Turner, Technicolor is one of the directors of the UHD Alliance.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-th...nce-explained/

[spectre08]

OLED is inherently cheaper to manufacture than LCD,

I'd like to see a citation on that, because it runs counter not only to intuition but to everything I've ever read about the technology.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by spectre08

I'd like to see a citation on that, because it runs counter not only to intuition but to everything I've ever read about the technology.

OLED is inherently cheaper than LCD because the construction is simpler. Four layers for OLED vs seven for LCD.



http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1411039923

http://kateeva.com/technology/oled-edge/

[Geoff D]

Ah, so according to LG it's "OLED TVs can become cheaper than LCD TVs" (emphasis mine), not "OLED is cheaper than LCD". I guess the low yields are no longer a problem, either that or they're throwing so much money at OLED production it doesn't really matter (as long as the money holds out)?

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Ah, so according to LG it's "OLED TVs can become cheaper than LCD TVs" (emphasis mine), not "OLED is cheaper than LCD". I guess the low yields are no longer a problem, either that or they're throwing so much money at OLED production it doesn't really matter (as long as the money holds out)?

I said inherently cheaper. 80% is not a low yield.

[spectre08]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

I said inherently cheaper. 80% is not a low yield.

maybe in per unit variable costs. That doesn't say anything about capital costs, R&D, or any of the other fixed costs.

But if the per unit variable costs are in fact lower then hopefully one day manufacturers will be able to achieve sufficient economies of scale to make them cheaper.

[Geoff D]

And that's exactly why another player needs to enter the game.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

that's supposed to be the dog's bollocks*
*the best

Works for me ….
http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/...e-430527555655

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

OLED is inherently cheaper than LCD because the construction is simpler....

Inherently, I’m feeling no love on this page for plasma TVs. Where’s Sap to carry the Kuro flag amongst all this advanced display technology discussion?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

...Mark Turner, Technicolor is one of the directors of the UHD Alliance.

I’ve heard of ‘em