4K Blu-ray Confirmed, Coming in

[bailey1987]

Here's something:

Technicolor Backs UHD Alliance Specs, Launch of Content to Market

http://www.cepro.com/article/technic...ent_to_market/

With the 2016 Consumer Electronics Show (CES) rapidly approaching and a new year’s worth of technology set to hit the market, the industry’s technology influencers are already setting the year’s agenda in advance of the event.

Getting out in front of the upcoming UHD Alliance announcement of a UltraHD/4K specification, an alliance founding member——Technicolor—-is throwing its support behind the soon-to-be-announced specification.

The specification, according to Technicolor, will have “profound implications for the entire value chain of studios, broadcasters, retailers and consumer equipment manufacturers who took part in the development of the specification.”

“After a year of dedicated work to define what next-generation video entertainment will look like, the release of the UHD Alliance specifications introduces a degree of certainty that should stimulate confidence in the industry that will translate into new demand from consumers,” says Mark Turner, vice president of partner development and business development for Technicolor.

Technicolor says the specification provides the framework for how wide color gamuts should be, what specifically it means to meet high dynamic range (HDR) requirements, and how these technologies can be integrated into the development and distribution of new movies, television content and other forms of entertainment.

“This removes a huge psychological barrier for consumers interested in purchasing the new generation of TVs, disc players and even the discs themselves,” notes Turner. “Consumers now can have confidence that there will be a lot of content available to take advantage of the new and richer visual experiences that the industry has been talking about for the past 12 to 18 months.”

Further supporting the penetration of 4K with HDR, Technicolor is also working with content owners and studios to revisit content libraries to help this content meet the finalized specification. One of the ways that Technicolor is helping content owners and studios is by making its global team of colorists and color scientists available to natively grade content in HDR. Technicolor has already graded several titles, including Twentieth Century Foxes’ “Spy” and “Fantastic Four” movies, and Amazon Instant Video’s “Bosch,” “Mozart in the Jungle,” and “Red Oaks” streaming television series.

In addition, Technicolor’s Home Entertainment Services Team is now fully certified by the Blu-ray Disc Association to create 4K HDR Ultra HD Blu-ray Discs in advance of the format’s launch during the first quarter of 2016 to coincide with the release of hardware solutions.

“With cross-ecosystem expertise, and a fundamental understanding of storytelling, Technicolor’s well-tested HDR pipeline maintains the integrity of creative intent from set to screens. We look forward to helping our partners develop new libraries of compelling content,” Turner says.

[bailey1987]

Originally Posted by jeff_rigby

A modern standard blu-ray drive supports UHD disks (2010 spec Version 2 HD blu-ray).
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So I hope, but is there any evidence of this. my BD drive is brand new I only got it this past August so it should be compatible.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

To be fair, Vizio is pretty much a marketing company for Chinese sourced panels.

Yes, McRae's education, University of Penn. Wharton School. At Vizio he has dual hats, CTO and Head of Marketing, but there is no evidence that he has a technical background, so it is likely that he misspoke when saying specular highlights caused pupil dilation.

[bailey1987]

Here's something:

Sony DADC New Media Solutions Showcases New Proprietary Tools On 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Titles
Major Studios Tap Cutting Edge 4K Ultra HD Disc Authoring Services to Deliver Enhanced Audio & Video Capabilities

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...300198619.html

CULVER CITY, Calif., Jan. 4, 2016 /PRNewswire/ -- Sony DADC New Media Solutions (NMS) today announced the implementation of its new Ultra HD™ (UHD) Blu-ray authoring tools on the 2016 scheduled 4K Ultra HD Disc releases of Sony Pictures Home Entertainment's The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Chappie, Hancock, Pineapple Express, Salt, and The Smurfs 2, and 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment's Wild and Maze Runner: Scorch Trials. As a leading pioneer in authoring technologies, NMS designed its proprietary toolset to efficiently integrate and deliver advanced functionality of UHD Blu-ray to help major studios and content owners deliver a theater quality experience into consumer's homes.

"Our teams leverage numerous years of expertise to develop and create the most advanced and reliable tools that bring powerful features to production workflows and easily integrate cutting edge tools like Sony's newest encoder to produce spectacular UHD images," said Prabhu Anbananthan, VP Technology, Sony DADC New Media Solutions. "With features like High Dynamic Range, wide color gamut and immersive audio, UHD Blu-ray promises to deliver an unprecedented consumer experience."

At the forefront of authoring services for the past twenty years, NMS was instrumental in the development and launches of DVD™, Blu-ray™, Blu-ray 3D™, BD-Live™, and UltraViolet™ formats. NMS also helped develop the technology for UHD compression and employs Sony's latest encoding technology to yield high quality 4K/UHD HDR video from diverse content sources. In November, NMS became the first facility to have passed the official Blu-ray Disc Association First Product Model Verification (FPMV) under Commercial Audio Visual (CAV) Profile 6.0. NMS also supports advanced content protection such as AACS forensic watermarking and created the official AACS test disc.

NMS' advanced authoring capabilities include Dolby Atmos object-based audio format, DTS:X object-based audio format, standards compliant HDR-10 profile, triple layer 100G disc authoring, seamless branching, and dual-zone technology to maximize disc capacity, menus, and subtitle conversions. These advanced authoring tools join NMS' comprehensive digital ecosystem of services that also include avails management, content and aggregation management, distribution, broadcast playout, and white-label OTT/Commerce services. For more information about Sony DADC NMS visit http://www.dadcdigital.com

"Blu-ray™", "Blu-ray 3D™", "BD-Live™ " and "Ultra HD Blu-ray™" are trademarks of the Blu-ray Disc Association. "DVD™" is a trademark of DVD FLLC (Format Logo Licensing Corporation) and "UltraViolet™" is a trademark of DECE.

About Sony DADC New Media Solutions

Sony DADC New Media Solutions provides complete digital supply chain solutions to power a new era of media consumption. Major film studios, broadcasters, music labels, game companies, software providers, and other content providers rely on us for innovative technology to keep pace with rapidly evolving consumer demand and emerging multichannel distribution models. Our market insight, proven expertise across both physical and digital media, and strategic partnerships throughout the industry enable us to provide unmatched end-to-end services that deliver the speed, efficiency, and quality required by today's digital media businesses and the audiences they serve.

[DanBa]

MediaTek Launches MT8581 for Ultra-HD 4K Blu-ray Players
http://prnewswire-yahoopartner.tumbl...-hd-4k-blu-ray

"HSINCHU, Taiwan, Jan. 4, 2016 /PRNewswire/ – MediaTek today announced the MediaTek MT8581, a highly integrated multimedia system-on-chip for Ultra High Definition (4K) Blu-ray players. The MT8581 will power the industry’s first Blu-ray players to use both Ultra-HD (UHD) and high-dynamic range imaging (HDR), dramatically improving display clarity and contrast beyond what is currently on the market. Unlike competitors, MediaTek is the only company with a dedicated chipset for Blu-Ray players, leading the industry in both technology and accessibility worldwide."

"HDR10 open standard and Dolby Vision IP are also supported."
http://mediatek-uat-elb-1486098614.a...ray-dvd/mt8581

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by DanBa

MediaTek Launches MT8581 for Ultra-HD 4K Blu-ray Players
http://prnewswire-yahoopartner.tumbl...-hd-4k-blu-ray

"HSINCHU, Taiwan, Jan. 4, 2016 /PRNewswire/ – MediaTek today announced the MediaTek MT8581, a highly integrated multimedia system-on-chip for Ultra High Definition (4K) Blu-ray players. The MT8581 will power the industry’s first Blu-ray players to use both Ultra-HD (UHD) and high-dynamic range imaging (HDR), dramatically improving display clarity and contrast beyond what is currently on the market. Unlike competitors, MediaTek is the only company with a dedicated chipset for Blu-Ray players, leading the industry in both technology and accessibility worldwide."

"HDR10 open standard and Dolby Vision IP are also supported."
http://mediatek-uat-elb-1486098614.a...ray-dvd/mt8581

What's the betting it still has audio dropouts when bitstreaming branched TrueHD/Atmos audio? It'd be nice if they FINALLY fixed that problem at source once and for all...

[Penton-Man]

ray, there you go again moving the goalposts…..

Originally Posted by raygendreau

McRae is Vizio's Chief Technology Officer, not a marketing exec.

Originally Posted by raygendreau

Yes, McRae's education, University of Penn. Wharton School. At Vizio he has dual hats, CTO and Head of Marketing

you’re getting my poor brain dizzy.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

....so it is likely that he misspoke when saying specular highlights caused pupil dilation.

Likely or.....Most definitely?

Truly ray, I think even for those without a scientific background, common sense would tell them that a significant portion of the screen occupied by EXPLOSIONS with your specular highlights would illuminate your retina enough to override any ‘fight or flight’ or other anxiety response inducing the pupil to dilate. Hell ray, that knowledge forms a basis upon which specs like MaxCLL were considered (http://www.movielabs.com/md/md/v2.3/...istory_2.3.pdf ) for movie watching.

Comparatively speaking, Matthew is not bad though , as there are those who are far worse with repetitive misspeaks and grandiose assertions …..https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...r#post11191733 especially for speaking engagements and such.

And worse yet, those fanboys who perpetually follow such culprits, no matter how many times they put their foot in their mouth.

[ray0414]

anybody have a link for the UHD alliance presser for tonight at CES?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by ray0414

anybody have a link for the UHD alliance presser for tonight at CES?

Is it true that you endorsed (by acknowledgement of knowing him) a UHD alliance spec leaker on AVS a couple days ago (Santa Claus or some such thing) and all such posts were deleted?

I received a heads-up after the fact about that but would like to hear the whole story. Who was that anonymous fellow you positively replied to when he beckoned your presence.

[Paul.R.S]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

Blu-Ray 3D is display agnostic and works with both passive and active displays. So the move from active to passive 3D will have little if any real effect on 3D. Since there isn't any Ultra HD 3D content and 1080p is the highest resolution 3D available the fact that passive displays half the resolution of 3D is of pretty much no consequence to current 3D content on Ultra HD displays and thus I suspect that's the direction future 3D displays will go

I spent so much time focused on active and glasses compatibility when first getting into 3D after a Mitsu DLP purchase that I couldn't/didn't spend a similar amount of educating myself on passive options. My recollection is that some of the bigger names supporting 3D were active only (Mitsu, Panasonic, Samsung). There are of course now some different names leading the display market compared to four years ago.

If a 4k UHD display supports 1080 3D with passive glasses, does that break the "ecosystem" restrictions of active glasses (generally speaking but with some significant exceptions, one needed to use glasses from the same manuf as the display). In other words, if passive glasses are used for a display, does this mean any passive glasses will do (I've even read of some folks taking passive glasses from the theater for use at home).


Big Matt Damon mug on the cover of the latest Home Media Magazine promoting The Martian as "Coming Soon On UltraHD Blu-ray." Tom Arnold posits in his comments that once UHD BD players reach the ""affordable" mark, generally considered below $300," "a Blu-ray Disc resurgence will be almost unavoidable." Seems Pollyannish to me.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Is it true that you endorsed (by acknowledgement of knowing him) a UHD alliance spec leaker on AVS a couple days ago (Santa Claus or some such thing) and all such posts were deleted?

I received a heads-up after the fact about that but would like to hear the whole story. Who was that anonymous fellow you positively replied to when he beckoned your presence.

it was a slight misunderstanding. i sent you a PM. the person wasnt leaking specs, he was relaying another persons suggestions about how some of the 4k hdr stuff should be handled.

[bailey1987]

Penton-Man I am assuming that you will be attending the presser, no? Do you have any information where any info that will be revealed to the public will appear and when?

[Opips3]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

What's the betting it still has audio dropouts when bitstreaming branched TrueHD/Atmos audio? It'd be nice if they FINALLY fixed that problem at source once and for all...

I feel high doubt it. I won't touch MeddiaTeK chip from Taiwan.

Period it

[Kris Deering]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

What's the betting it still has audio dropouts when bitstreaming branched TrueHD/Atmos audio? It'd be nice if they FINALLY fixed that problem at source once and for all...

They already have in players with the newer chips. All of the latest Oppo players are based on their chipsets and NONE have audio dropouts. It isn't the chipmakers fault that Hollywood keeps changing all their crap all the time so that they can prevent like 1 person from making a copy of it.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Paul.R.S

I spent so much time focused on active and glasses compatibility when first getting into 3D after a Mitsu DLP purchase that I couldn't/didn't spend a similar amount of educating myself on passive options. My recollection is that some of the bigger names supporting 3D were active only (Mitsu, Panasonic, Samsung). There are of course now some different names leading the display market compared to four years ago.

If a 4k UHD display supports 1080 3D with passive glasses, does that break the "ecosystem" restrictions of active glasses (generally speaking but with some significant exceptions, one needed to use glasses from the same manuf as the display? In other words, if passive glasses are used for a display, does this mean any passive glasses will do (I've even read of some folks taking passive glasses from the theater for use at home).

I'm probably gonna regret this, but here goes: even the first passive 1080p direct view 3D displays were able to use cinema glasses, albeit not IMAX ones because they're polarised differently. Sony's first 4K sets from 2012/2013 used passive (which coincided with their first passive regular TVs as well) precisely because the 2160p panel could deliver 1080 to each eye with the appropriate polariser. I mention that because the first 55" 4K model only had a 540p polariser, the vertical viewing angle was too narrow with 1080, so the full 1080 3D passive was only found on the 65" and 84" 4K models.

It's true that for a few years the operation of the active glasses were manufacturer specific (with some using different sync tech anyway, e.g. Sony initially used IR while others used Bluetooth, and even the ones that used the same sync tech flipped the refresh rate of the shutters so you could use another manufacturer's glasses but only when held upside down!) but the only "ecosystem restrictions" were down to the manufacturers themselves, not some industry wide edict.

Then some sort of standardisation was worked on and now most manufacturers' active glasses will usually interchange with other active sets of similar modernity without trouble (though using Bluetooth and not the IR that's mentioned in that article), and replacements from the likes of X-pand work just as well across several different brands of active TV. But additionally that doesn't mean that the display *must* be active; passive is still an option because, as Jimmy said, 3D Blu-ray itself is display agnostic in that regard.

HTH

[dvdmike]

Bugs me sony ditched passive for 2015, if they say this week the 2016 have passive its the only thing that will make me wait

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Bugs me sony ditched passive for 2015, if they say this week the 2016 have passive its the only thing that will make me wait

But bear in mind my edit about the polariser: unless you were buying a 65" or above then you wouldn't even be getting the much vaunted "1080p passive 3D" that Sony were claiming their 4K TVs did. I actually got £150 compensation out of them for flat out lying about the spec of the 55X9005A.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

But bear in mind my edit about the polariser: unless you were buying a 65" or above then you wouldn't even be getting the much vaunted "1080p passive 3D" that Sony were claiming their 4K TVs did. I actually got £150 compensation out of them for flat out lying about the spec of the 55X9005A.

I knew that when I looked at those models, but they wouldn't do it again is my thought

[Geoff D]

Fair enough. Yeah, I think passive's gone for good now in the Sony range, but 3D itself is something they're quietly sweeping under the carpet now that they've got 4K to push. I'd be surprised if any of their 3D sets for 2016 even have glasses packed in.