The Abyss 4K UHD (1989) - Page 12 - Blu-ray Forum

Atomic Salad · 11-14-2023, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scholer

Anyone know where the music in the re-release trailer is from? Sounds a lot like Silvestri’s score, but seems hard to be sure from memory alone if it’s music from the film or some similar sounding modern music from elsewhere.

It's not from the score.

GRSN · 11-14-2023, 02:05 AM

Great! another US only screenings, while the rest of the world can eat dirt.

KMFDMvsEnya · 11-14-2023, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pieter V

DNR.

Looks like the same shenanigans seen in the Titanic 4K rerelease trailer with similar material.

Even though it is a 1080p YT upload there appears to be the potential for superfluous current flavor of fancy DNR seen in facial features.

I'm scared, Dave...

Trekkie313 · 11-14-2023, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GRSN

Great! another US only screenings, while the rest of the world can eat dirt.

The UK gets so many awesome screenings we don't.

KMFDMvsEnya · 11-14-2023, 03:20 AM

More grain in the rerelease poster. LoL.

Still thinking of going to see it though.

GRSN · 11-14-2023, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Trekkie313

The UK gets so many awesome screenings we don't.

*The US (at least a day) & The UK gets so many awesome screenings,
The Netherlands don't

Fixed that for you...

TheSweetieMan · 11-14-2023, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pieter V

DNR.

I just do not get it.

Cameron is arguably the most technologically gifted filmmaker of our time, yet disrespects his work that was shot on film with poor practices like this.

It's even more frustrating when you consider that similar to the T2 UHD, it at least appears to have a nice, robust color grade. But appears to be heavily undone by terrible use of DNR.

It's so unnecessary.

bigrob · 11-14-2023, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Trekkie313

The UK gets so many awesome screenings we don't.

I'm seeing a 35mm screening of The X-Files : Fight the Future this afternoon

Mierzwiak · 11-14-2023, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by matbezlima

Random question: does anyone here have YouTube Premium? I'm asking because if you have YouTube Premium, 1080p videos will have a resolution option called "1080p Premium". It promises to deliver a far higher bitrate than YouTube normally does. If anyone here has YouTube Premium, how does the trailer look in 1080p Premium vs. regular 1080p?

There's barely a difference, I don't see anything subtantial.

kristoffer · 11-14-2023, 07:40 AM

Why does this have two threads?

lgans316 · 11-14-2023, 08:28 AM

Keeping YouTube compression aside, it looks scrubbed. Not T2 level but maybe few notches below it. Also wondering how much of AI processing has been applied as we have seen some nasty side effects due to applying it.

Telemachus · 11-14-2023, 09:38 AM

Those new shots look more like Alita Battle Angel than a film shot in the late '80s, I guess I'm not going to be too excited for Aliens at this point

Chad Rouch · 11-14-2023, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSweetieMan

I just do not get it.

Cameron is arguably the most technologically gifted filmmaker of our time, yet disrespects his work that was shot on film with poor practices like this.

I don't think filmmakers from the "shot on film era" like grain all that much. There's a reason that for decades and decades they kept pushing Kodak to develop finer grain film because they didn't like the look of grain and wanted to minimize it as much as possible.

matbezlima · 11-14-2023, 03:19 PM

Comments sections of pretty much all news articles in this site are always filled with far more complaining and demanding than actual excitement for what was announced. It's like many people just can't ever be happy. Some people seem to be perpetually jaded.

A comment like this is baffling. You really want Disney to override James Cameron's decision? This feels hypocritical considering how often people complain about directors and artists being swallowed by studios. So studios overriding directors is only bad if I like what the director is doing?

"Please don't screw it up.

If you screw it up, if you let Cameron turn it into the House of Wax, I'm not giving you a nickel for it.

I don't care.

If you can't release a quality product, you deserve to go out of business."

The whole comment section is acting as if Disney didn't give us this year fantastic UHDs with fantastic restorations of Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs, Cinderella and The Nightmare Before Christmas. We see people there still saying that Disney doesn't care about catalog titles at all. Because vitriolic hate against literally anything related to Disney seems to be some people's favorite hobby.

I guess these must be the same people who probably don't think that animated films count as real films, as those seemingly don't count as Disney caring about catalog titles. Those three films I mentioned mean nothing to these people, even though Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs is infinitely a more important cinematic landmark than The Abyss will ever be.

Animation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Live-action

Yes, I'm being very bitter because I'm tired of animation not being as respected as live-action. I love animation.

And there is also this comment:

"Disney still sucks. They're getting all this attention and praise by announcing a title that has been on wishlists for eons. Cameron and Disney -- both DNR fanboys -- and Disney's 'actual' hope is for modern day mainstream audiences to buy this --- NOT the fanbase. Hence, they will give it the same shite presentation that they give to modern releases. Prob with crappy coverart, as well. They've not mended their ways one iota, just a cash cow move. They still hate us. Believe it."

If this is a DNR-fest, all fault is with Cameron. It's like the Cinderella, Snow White and Nightmare Before Christmas restorations didn't register with this guy at all, it's like they don't exist. Grain is obvious there.

rubystone356 · 11-14-2023, 06:11 PM

https://www.fandango.com/the-abyss-s...movie-overview

Jacob

Macatouille · 11-14-2023, 07:10 PM

Here's a link to download the ProRes trailer (still 1080p) and some screenshots I took directly:

starmike · 11-14-2023, 07:15 PM

THANK YOU! I was looking for that.

It looks better than YT, but still a little soft.

CreasyBear · 11-14-2023, 07:18 PM

Anything is an improvement over the DVD. Just happy to have it in 16x9, honestly.

Macatouille · 11-14-2023, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mierzwiak

HDTV:
1080p YouTube:

Here's an updated version of that comparison (HDTV, YouTube then ProRes):

To the surprise of no one there is a pretty huge difference between the last two.

starmike · 11-14-2023, 07:28 PM

You definitely get more detail from the ProRes version, as expected.

I shifted the hue -22 in VLC to get a less-teal look.

I'm sure the 4K will be excellent.

11-14-2023, 03:20 AM	#225
KMFDMvsEnya Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2014 Location:UT	More grain in the rerelease poster. LoL. Still thinking of going to see it though. Last edited by KMFDMvsEnya; 11-14-2023 at 03:48 AM.

11-14-2023, 07:18 PM	#238
CreasyBear Blu-ray Count Member since:Apr 2019 Trading Score:115	Anything is an improvement over the DVD. Just happy to have it in 16x9, honestly. Last edited by CreasyBear; 11-14-2023 at 07:33 PM.

11-14-2023, 02:05 AM	#222
GRSN Senior Member Member since:Dec 2018 Location:Netherlands 4K collection:233 Blu-ray collection:298 MA collection:78 Digital collection:17 iTunes collection:12 Trading Score:8	Great! another US only screenings, while the rest of the world can eat dirt.

11-14-2023, 07:40 AM	#230
kristoffer Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2010 Location:Denmark	Why does this have two threads?

11-14-2023, 08:28 AM	#231
lgans316 Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Location:RM16, United Kingdom Blu-ray reviews:17 Trading Score:498	Keeping YouTube compression aside, it looks scrubbed. Not T2 level but maybe few notches below it. Also wondering how much of AI processing has been applied as we have seen some nasty side effects due to applying it.

11-14-2023, 09:38 AM	#232
Telemachus Blu-ray Baron Member since:May 2021	Those new shots look more like Alita Battle Angel than a film shot in the late '80s, I guess I'm not going to be too excited for Aliens at this point

11-14-2023, 03:19 PM	#234
matbezlima Banned Member since:Jul 2021	Comments sections of pretty much all news articles in this site are always filled with far more complaining and demanding than actual excitement for what was announced. It's like many people just can't ever be happy. Some people seem to be perpetually jaded. A comment like this is baffling. You really want Disney to override James Cameron's decision? This feels hypocritical considering how often people complain about directors and artists being swallowed by studios. So studios overriding directors is only bad if I like what the director is doing? "Please don't screw it up. If you screw it up, if you let Cameron turn it into the House of Wax, I'm not giving you a nickel for it. I don't care. If you can't release a quality product, you deserve to go out of business." The whole comment section is acting as if Disney didn't give us this year fantastic UHDs with fantastic restorations of Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs, Cinderella and The Nightmare Before Christmas. We see people there still saying that Disney doesn't care about catalog titles at all. Because vitriolic hate against literally anything related to Disney seems to be some people's favorite hobby. I guess these must be the same people who probably don't think that animated films count as real films, as those seemingly don't count as Disney caring about catalog titles. Those three films I mentioned mean nothing to these people, even though Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs is infinitely a more important cinematic landmark than The Abyss will ever be. Animation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Live-action Yes, I'm being very bitter because I'm tired of animation not being as respected as live-action. I love animation. And there is also this comment: "Disney still sucks. They're getting all this attention and praise by announcing a title that has been on wishlists for eons. Cameron and Disney -- both DNR fanboys -- and Disney's 'actual' hope is for modern day mainstream audiences to buy this --- NOT the fanbase. Hence, they will give it the same shite presentation that they give to modern releases. Prob with crappy coverart, as well. They've not mended their ways one iota, just a cash cow move. They still hate us. Believe it." If this is a DNR-fest, all fault is with Cameron. It's like the Cinderella, Snow White and Nightmare Before Christmas restorations didn't register with this guy at all, it's like they don't exist. Grain is obvious there.

11-14-2023, 06:11 PM	#235
rubystone356 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:98 Blu-ray collection:1243 DVD collection:284 Digital collection:690 iTunes collection:19	https://www.fandango.com/the-abyss-s...movie-overview Jacob

11-14-2023, 07:10 PM	#236
Macatouille Senior Member Member since:Nov 2020 4K collection:29 Blu-ray collection:29 Trading Score:9	Here's a link to download the ProRes trailer (still 1080p) and some screenshots I took directly:

11-14-2023, 07:15 PM	#237
starmike Blu-ray Knight Member since:Feb 2012 Location:NJ	THANK YOU! I was looking for that. It looks better than YT, but still a little soft.

11-14-2023, 07:28 PM	#240
starmike Blu-ray Knight Member since:Feb 2012 Location:NJ	You definitely get more detail from the ProRes version, as expected. I shifted the hue -22 in VLC to get a less-teal look. I'm sure the 4K will be excellent.

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