The Abyss 4K UHD (1989)

[starmike]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Didn't miss much from the 1970s sequels. The reboot versions are superior in every way.

I dunno, the sequels are OK, and I think they're worth a look at least once.

[By_His_Strypes]

I grew up with the original Apes movies so I love them all.

[Noir Black Schwarz]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

They did a number on '80s horror.

The ratings board is complete dogshit who were motivated by pure greed. They made the Friday the 13th movies cut things out that were tame as hell but had no issue letting hearts be ripped out in Indiana Jones even though one was rated R the other PG. They knew the horror movie studios couldn't afford to shove that cash up their booty while the big time releases could.

Originally Posted by pjl69

Yeah, I think it's the most interesting movie along with the first Terminator from Cameron. But that's just my opinion.

Maybe I should blind buy it then, but I don't know.

[KcMsterpce]

Originally Posted by Noir Black Schwarz

Maybe I should blind buy it then, but I don't know.

I'm a little nervous about watching it again, because I haven't seen it since I bought the DVD. I have skimmed through the recent HD versions, but I kept holding off on watching it again in hopes for a 4k transfer (before that, just a good blu-ray remaster, which never came).
With that said, not sure how much I'll like it as an old man, so far separated from the last 30+ times I watched it.

I still recommend it, because there is a lot to admire when it comes to underwater cinematography, Mary Elizabeth Masters' and Ed Harris' performances, as well as a number of other scenes. Especially the Special Edition.

I think if you like the other movies James Cameron has done, that it can be a safe bet to blind buy. It's probably good enough to be an enjoyable watch.

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

Okay but you prefer the Atmos mixes of the Burton/Schumacher Batflicks to the legacy ones, so I'll take this with a pinch of salt...

Beneath, Escape and Conquest are worth a watch. Conquest is my favorite Apes film.

[Alister_M]

Originally Posted by By_His_Strypes

Were not some of the underwater shots including the Humans close calls at times? if I'm not mistaken near drownings? but, apparently it's safe to show those scenes. I don't know, it's just an interesting aspect in the big picture.

Both Ed Harris and Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio have gone on record saying they suffered a lot of distress during those scenes. Clearly the rat is more important to the BBFC than two humans who are still very much alive and still have to live with that trauma.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Alister_M

Both Ed Harris and Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio have gone on record saying they suffered a lot of distress during those scenes. Clearly the rat is more important to the BBFC than two humans who are still very much alive and still have to live with that trauma.

Ehhhhh. Unless we're seeing the actual footage of the two actors in literal distress and close to drowning - and we're not - then it's nowhere near the same thing.

[NeonStreetMelt]

I get standing by your product and not wanting to release it missing a scene, but clearly the ghost of Margaret Thatcher still haunts the UK. This is the same country that made "intrusive staring" at women on the tube a public offense. This is why we dumped their tea into a harbor, just a deeply flawed society.

[Markgway]

Originally Posted by Telemachus

Surely not as silly as avoiding a film because there's no stereo track?

If OG audio was readily available on most films I'd laugh at this.

Originally Posted by NeonStreetMelt

This is why we dumped their tea into a harbor, just a deeply flawed society.

Better living in a society that cuts animal cruelty than a society which has thousands of gun deaths every year.

[Socko]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

PIT CHIEFTAIN
Jedi Conan! Is the MPAA friend or foe? Does it suit modern times and values?

The MPAA has been vanished many moons ago.
The evil now resides on this barren planet as MPA.

[Telemachus]

Originally Posted by Markgway

Better living in a society that cuts animal cruelty than a society which has thousands of gun deaths every year.

You got a license for that snark, Marky?

[KcMsterpce]

Originally Posted by Markgway

Better living in a society that cuts animal cruelty than a society which has thousands of gun deaths every year.

So...

[Show spoiler]"The Abyss"

[By_His_Strypes]

I would not be surprised if one viewing of The Great Mouse Detective would instantly clear the scene for all eyes.

[SpacemanDoug]

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

I've seen the original Apes film plus the most recent one, but nothing in between...

I can actually say similar but I also did see the 2001 remake, which was absolute utter trash

[Kyle15]

Originally Posted by By_His_Strypes

I would not be surprised if one viewing of The Great Mouse Detective would instantly clear the scene for all eyes.

Not many people know Great Mouse Detective caused a series of mouse and rat murders committed by children and adults alike. It was all over the northeast coast news back in the day. Like Jaws before it leading to a rash of shark destruction, it should have been not released at all. Fiction is reality.

[Telemachus]

The Tim Burton Apes film is an absolute banger, I would buy the hell out of that UHD, Marky Mark makes me giddy

[RCRochester]

Originally Posted by Noir Black Schwarz

The ratings board is complete dogshit who were motivated by pure greed. They made the Friday the 13th movies cut things out that were tame as hell but had no issue letting hearts be ripped out in Indiana Jones even though one was rated R the other PG. They knew the horror movie studios couldn't afford to shove that cash up their booty while the big time releases could.

Friday the 13th and Indiana Jones were both released by the same studio

Originally Posted by Alister_M

Both Ed Harris and Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio have gone on record saying they suffered a lot of distress during those scenes. Clearly the rat is more important to the BBFC than two humans who are still very much alive and still have to live with that trauma.

Does it really need to be openly stated that Harris and Mastrantonio had agency over themselves and chose to film those scenes of their own free will, while the rat did not?

Originally Posted by Markgway

Better living in a society that cuts animal cruelty than a society which has thousands of gun deaths every year.

I mean if you're going to get on your high horse and be smug about it, I live in a country that does/has neither and is consistently ranked as one of the top three countries in which to live.

[Socko]

Originally Posted by Telemachus

The Tim Burton Apes film is an absolute banger, I would buy the hell out of that UHD, Marky Mark makes me giddy

I'm with ya. The setup of that final act is superb. Really grand scale stuff with good sound. I like it.

Rick Baker did the makeup and then we have the late David Warner and Michael Clarke Duncan in ape makeup and Estella Warren in skimpy clothes.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

Does it really need to be openly stated that Harris and Mastrantonio had agency over themselves and chose to film those scenes of their own free will, while the rat did not?

Indeed. It shouldn't even need to be explained, but it's the internet so here we are. The actors knew there were risks even though they were assured it was safe, and had an understanding of what was happening the entire time. And we don't really know what they went through. The rat was snatched up and placed in a tank of liquid against it's will and it had no understanding of the situation. It thought it was going to die.

[Dr. T]

Originally Posted by mar3o

The rat was snatched up and placed in a tank of liquid against it's will and it had no understanding of the situation. It thought it was going to die.

Ensign Monk is the real villain of the movie.