The Abyss 4K UHD (1989) - Page 107 - Blu-ray Forum

mpls1981 · 12-31-2023, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by paulboland

There is no UK pre orders for a 4K release of the Abyss with any UK retailers as it has not been announced for a UK release

You can't cancel a pre order when no orders exist as it has not ever been available to pre order in UK

I'll edit my post. I had thought all 3 Cameron movies had gone up for pre-order in UK.

paulboland · 12-31-2023, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mpls1981

I'll edit my post. I had thought all 3 Cameron movies had gone up for pre-order in UK.

UK Pre order is for Aliens/True Lies

Titanic already released

Only way the Abyss can get a UK UHD/Blu-ray release is if Lightstorm Entertainment agree to let disney do a separate cut version release for UK
The cut version was requested by BBFC and disney agreed doing this but Lightstorm Entertainment veoted disney doing the cut for a UK release that is why it cant get a UK release
The Abyss 4K release did not get official release announcment for UK that is why has not been available to pre order with UK retailers

The Abyss uncut version is not allowed to be released in UK (The Cinematograph Films (Animals) Act 1937)

Disney usually use same pressing for UK/Europe disc releases
A UK release would require them doing a different disc release
If Lightstorm Entertainment don't change their mind and let disney do a release of the UK cut version you won't see a UK release happen

The Abyss is a film from Lightstorm Entertainment with distribution with Fox (20th Century Studios) aka Disney

stigdu · 12-31-2023, 03:13 PM

I'm in the UK and would happily watch the film again with the rat scene cut. If it doesn't come to the UK, then I don't really care as I'm not a fan of the film, but it's annoying for those who want to see the film and can't import.

rdodolak · 12-31-2023, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by slrk

There's been some very weird xenophobic rantings about an issue that does not affect anyone outside the UK.

Anyway, from this 2017 minutes you get the impression that the BBFC tried to have the cuts waived, but for the RSPCA advice that it would still contravene the law.

boc-minutes-16-11-17.pdf

xenophobic?

So a charity gave their opinion, does that mean the BBFC had to follow it?

Kyle15 · 12-31-2023, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by slrk

There's been some very weird xenophobic rantings about an issue that does not affect anyone outside the UK.

Oh please. I'm yawning.

Croweyes1121 · 12-31-2023, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stigdu

I'm in the UK and would happily watch the film again with the rat scene cut. If it doesn't come to the UK, then I don't really care as I'm not a fan of the film, but it's annoying for those who want to see the film and can't import.

If you’re not a fan of the film, why would you “happily watch the film again” in any form?

ronnie1990 · 12-31-2023, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stigdu

I'm in the UK and would happily watch the film again with the rat scene cut. If it doesn't come to the UK, then I don't really care as I'm not a fan of the film, but it's annoying for those who want to see the film and can't import.

You should be able to import it

chip75 · 12-31-2023, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rdodolak

So a charity gave their opinion, does that mean the BBFC had to follow it?

Charity. They're can come onto your land to inspect animals and under dire circumstances enter a property without permission.

They're trained to be experts in animal welfare, so it makes senses they'd be consulted in legal cases or legalities.

In the case of The Abyss they believe the animal to be cruelly treated and if the BBFC passed the content said content might be unlawful.

KMFDMvsEnya · 12-31-2023, 06:15 PM

Croweyes1121, have you had a chance to take a closer look at the SE edit points?

I noticed at least one in which the dropped frame remains, no interpolated in between frame.

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Originally Posted by KMFDMvsEnya

In the Theatrical Cut there is a panning camera shot of Lindsey walking from frame right to left that is longer in the Special Edition.

With the Special Edition the full pan is present and there is a dropped frame mid pan.
This was visible in the recent theatrical screening.

1:06:12 Theatrical Cut

1:24:26 Special Edition

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1:24:30 The dropped frame occurs here.

The frame after the dropped frame is the same frame that starts the pan in the TC.

rdodolak · 12-31-2023, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chip75

Charity. They're can come onto your land to inspect animals and under dire circumstances enter a property without permission.

They're trained to be experts in animal welfare, so it makes senses they'd be consulted in legal cases or legalities.

In the case of The Abyss they believe the animal to be cruelly treated and if the BBFC passed the content said content might be unlawful.

Yes, Charity. They even state that they're the world's oldest charity and are registered as such.

https://register-of-charities.charit...0&regid=219099

stigdu · 12-31-2023, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Croweyes1121

If you’re not a fan of the film, why would you “happily watch the film again” in any form?

I mean "not a fan" as in I'm not one of those people who loves the film, not as in I dislike the film (I don't).

I haven't seen it since I watched it at the cinema when it first came out, so it would be good to re-appraise, especially as I've heard the longer cut improves it.

chip75 · 12-31-2023, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rdodolak

Yes, Charity. They even state that they're the world's oldest charity and are registered as such.

I know they're a charity. My point was they're a bit more than a thrift shop that gives money to animal welfare.

stvn1974 · 12-31-2023, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by By_His_Strypes

I don't feel like the scene in question garnered this much attention when the movie was initially released. That's the internet for you...

I saw The Abyss on opening day and then went back later to watch it again and when the scene came on I charged the screen and threw a bucket of blood on it in protest.

By_His_Strypes · 12-31-2023, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by stvn1974

I saw The Abyss on opening day and then went back later to watch it again and when the scene came on I charged the screen and threw a bucket of blood on it in protest.

wild times that 1989... but still somewhat civilized in comparison to today.

Croweyes1121 · 12-31-2023, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KMFDMvsEnya

Croweyes1121, have you had a chance to take a closer look at the SE edit points?

I noticed at least one in which the dropped frame remains, no interpolated in between frame.

Yeah, I’m not sure where the reports came from that all of the dropped frames had been fixed. They haven’t. I mentioned this after seeing it on 12/6. I definitely noticed a few frames still missing. NBD, but they’re there.

RCRochester · 12-31-2023, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rdodolak

xenophobic?

So a charity gave their opinion, does that mean the BBFC had to follow it?

You know that Cinematograph (Animals) Act 1937 we were talking about earlier? Who do you think was the driving force behind its introduction?

https://api.parliament.uk/historic-h...s-animals-bill

The Measure has been promoted and introduced by the Royal Society for. the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, with the support of the National Canine Defence League, and other humanitarian societies of the country.

rdodolak · 12-31-2023, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RCRochester

You know that Cinematograph (Animals) Act 1937 we were talking about earlier? Who do you think was the driving force behind its introduction?

https://api.parliament.uk/historic-h...s-animals-bill

The Measure has been promoted and introduced by the Royal Society for. the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, with the support of the National Canine Defence League, and other humanitarian societies of the country.

Of course they did. I don't mean this is a negative manner, but these organizations all have their own inherent biases and can be influenced by the politial leanings of the individuals leading them.

So why do we think they'd recommend anything different to the BBFC.

stigdu · 01-01-2024, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ronnie1990

You should be able to import it

Yes, thank you. Will it have the longer cut of the film on the disc, do you know?

rubystone356 · 01-01-2024, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by stigdu

Yes, thank you. Will it have the longer cut of the film on the disc, do you know?

YES

Jacob

XanderAE · 01-01-2024, 01:51 PM

I don’t believe anyone here has already mentioned this, but the theatrical cut has been replaced with the SE in 4K/DV/DA in iTunes.

The film is undergoing a change in the store which is believed to be swapping the main feature to the SE and the theatrical as the iTunes extra version. At the moment it is playing the SE as both main feature and extra.

Just an FYI for those who may have purchased this digitally before the disc release.

12-31-2023, 03:13 PM	#2123
stigdu Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Surrey, UK 4K collection:799 Blu-ray collection:1322 DVD collection:260 Trading Score:5	I'm in the UK and would happily watch the film again with the rat scene cut. If it doesn't come to the UK, then I don't really care as I'm not a fan of the film, but it's annoying for those who want to see the film and can't import.

01-01-2024, 01:51 PM	#2140
XanderAE Power Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Trading Score:27	I don’t believe anyone here has already mentioned this, but the theatrical cut has been replaced with the SE in 4K/DV/DA in iTunes. The film is undergoing a change in the store which is believed to be swapping the main feature to the SE and the theatrical as the iTunes extra version. At the moment it is playing the SE as both main feature and extra. Just an FYI for those who may have purchased this digitally before the disc release.

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