The Abyss 4K UHD (1989)

[SpazeBlue]

Originally Posted by THF90

It literally says “Stunning video” at the top of the review, under the pics at the top of the review.

TBF, I think that part's automated.

Originally Posted by 1924

5 star review

https://whysoblu.com/the-abyss-ultim...lu-ray-review/

That's like the 3rd or 4th time this review has been posted here.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Ben_R

Site review is up - https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-A...191855/#Review

Gotta say I enjoyed reading the PQ assessment there. Very balanced, though one inconsistency is that JMK's mentioning the removal of the grain as a negative, broadly, but in a lot of his other 4K reviews he's telling us that film isn't meant to be seen in 4K because it's too grainy. But then that's where the balance comes in, he's not standing on his soapbox and telling us that grain should be toned down for 4K and that people just need to get over it because King Cameron is God etc etc, he acknowledges that it's not going to be everyone's taste but goes on to say that he enjoyed it. Good stuff.

[aiman04]

High-Def Digest.

https://ultrahd.highdefdigest.com/12...ssce4kuhd.html

[Gieferg]

Any word about standalone standard blu-ray release?

[rubystone356]

Originally Posted by Gieferg

Any word about standalone standard blu-ray release?

not yet.

Jacob

[Ben_R]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

[Show spoiler]Gotta say I enjoyed reading the PQ assessment there. Very balanced, though one inconsistency is that JMK's mentioning the removal of the grain as a negative, broadly, but in a lot of his other 4K reviews he's telling us that film isn't meant to be seen in 4K because it's too grainy. But then that's where the balance comes in, he's not standing on his soapbox and telling us that grain should be toned down for 4K and that people just need to get over it because King Cameron is God etc etc, he acknowledges that it's not going to be everyone's taste but goes on to say that he enjoyed it. Good stuff.

A refreshing change from what had gone before and yes I noticed that. Perhaps he is dipping his toes in to the Dark Side to see how it feels. The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

I’m looking forward to catching the Abyss. Forewarned is forearmed and expectations is the root of all heartache so everything is in check. It seems the best of a bad bunch.

My interest in Aliens was piqued from what your wrote, it’s obviously got issues but arguably is going to be the best (subjective) of what is available. Did it make you feel dirty?

[jddf]

"one day and counting"

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Ben_R

A refreshing change from what had gone before and yes I noticed that. Perhaps he is dipping his toes in to the Dark Side to see how it feels. The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

I’m looking forward to catching the Abyss. Forewarned is forearmed and expectations is the root of all heartache so everything is in check. It seems the best of a bad bunch.

My interest in Aliens was piqued from what your wrote, it’s obviously got issues but arguably is going to be the best (subjective) of what is available. Did it make you feel dirty?

It made me feel like a dirty bird, yes. But the Blu-ray is still there, and it's great, so I can alternate between them on future viewing.

Abyss does look rather nice in general tho. Still got some weirdness, but the good far outweighs the relatively small amount of bad.

[Nocheduro]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

It made me feel like a dirty bird, yes. But the Blu-ray is still there, and it's great, so I can alternate between them on future viewing.

Abyss does look rather nice in general tho. Still got some weirdness, but the good far outweighs the relatively small amount of bad.

How is the HDR grade? Does it expand the hightlights or did Cameron take the AWOW approach to it?

[punisher]

I caved and pre-ordered ...

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Nocheduro

How is the HDR grade? Does it expand the hightlights or did Cameron take the AWOW approach to it?

Edit: talking about Aliens here, not The Abuse!

As with Titanic, they're working from a 10+ year old master that was designed for the SDR space so it's not doing anything drastic...and yet there is a tiny little bit of highlight expansion here and there in Aliens, more so than in Titanic I'd say. But all of Cameron's 'HDR' grades are of a piece, there's a few hundred nits pushed into the highlights while minimally expanding them, while average brightness is raised quite a bit. And the latter part is what makes people think they're so amazing, I couldn't believe the gushing prose I was reading re: Titanic's 'HDR' grade, but that's all you have to do: make it look brighter than SDR and it doesn't matter if it's got any real HDR or not, it'll still impress. Aliens' gamma has been lowered quite a bit tho, the BD wasn't blacker than black to begin with but looked decently dense, the 4K is noticeably lighter.

[djpault]

I pre-ordered all three new Cameron 4K UHD titles (The Abyss, Aliens, True Lies) on 1/30/24 from Disney Movie Club and all three say processing one day before the release date. Usually, Disney Movie Club gets pre-orders out before release day. I think maybe these titles are delayed.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Croweyes1121

Thanks for clarifying. It’s amazing to me how many people still don’t get this as many years as we are into 4K reviews on this site. BD picture quality scores are regularly a tad higher for this very reason. If anything, 4K transfers reveal more, hence it’s a harsher standard of measure.

Well there's always somebody new in here that doesn't know how the rating system works yet. Why don't they have a small explanation of how their ratings scale works between 1080p and 4k at the top of each review under the image quality section? How are people supposed to know this if they don't explain it?

[Cortiz]

My Amazon preorder still in delivery date pending mode even though i preorder a while back. Looks like this and the other Cameron titles releasing tomorrow are going to be hard to get at least for the next couple of weeks urghh

[Chaz05]

Originally Posted by djpault

I pre-ordered all three new Cameron 4K UHD titles (The Abyss, Aliens, True Lies) on 1/30/24 from Disney Movie Club and all three say processing one day before the release date. Usually, Disney Movie Club gets pre-orders out before release day. I think maybe these titles are delayed.

Mine says the same. I don't think there will be a delay, though. Reviewers all received their copies.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

^ I know, but Diabolik specifically will still sit on an order even AFTER they get stock - it's just how they roll these days. I suspect it has something to do with their new label Cauldron. One-man shows are tough enough but one-man shows also running a movie label are tougher. They really need to hire someone to help fulfill regular orders.

Yeah, I love Diabolik but they are slow slow slow to ship these days.

[Nocheduro]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Edit: talking about Aliens here, not The Abuse!

[Show spoiler]As with Titanic, they're working from a 10+ year old master that was designed for the SDR space so it's not doing anything drastic...and yet there is a tiny little bit of highlight expansion here and there in Aliens, more so than in Titanic I'd say. But all of Cameron's 'HDR' grades are of a piece, there's a few hundred nits pushed into the highlights while minimally expanding them, while average brightness is raised quite a bit. And the latter part is what makes people think they're so amazing, I couldn't believe the gushing prose I was reading re: Titanic's 'HDR' grade, but that's all you have to do: make it look brighter than SDR and it doesn't matter if it's got any real HDR or not, it'll still impress. Aliens' gamma has been lowered quite a bit tho, the BD wasn't blacker than black to begin with but looked decently dense, the 4K is noticeably lighter.

Let us know when you’ve checked out The Abyss more closely.

[mar3o]

The video review section on this site for this film is a wall of text. I can't read that. Seriously, break that up into two paragraphs.

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by mar3o

The video review section on this site for this film is a wall of text. I can't read that. Seriously, break that up into two paragraphs.

I could only read part of it. It's a word salad.

[Eric_Hendershot]

Originally Posted by mar3o

Yeah, I love Diabolik but they are slow slow slow to ship these days.

I'm really surprised my order from Diabolik isn't even in the shipping stage yet. Ordered all 3 on 1/24. Looks I like won't be receiving them on the 12th and I usually receive my orders from them next day because I'm close. Customers who live further away are really going to be waiting.