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Old 03-29-2024, 10:10 PM   #4561
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Jeez, where'd you buy it from? Got my Camerons from Amazon US for £28 apiece.
But, but how is that possible? Cgpublic sez they wuz unavailable?!?!
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Old 03-29-2024, 10:12 PM   #4562
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Another victim of Disney's disc-stacking bullshit here. Miraculously the radial scratch only causes a 5-second jump-forward during the scene right at the end where the rising ship reaches the rig and floods it with light. Bloody annoying but I can't be arsed returning it then risking the same bullshit happening when they inevitably reprint it with the exact same garbage packaging. If anything I'll wait and see if Disney goes back to distributing discs in Australasia and releases a 4K-only version. In the meantime, the BD will do if I don't feel like tolerating that missing 5 seconds
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Old 03-29-2024, 11:05 PM   #4563
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On youtube midlevelmedia says there are people claiming to have received scratched unplayable discs because this three disc set is in a 2 disc case. Given how cheap 4k players are, would people really care if the included blu-ray edition of the movie was excluded?
I would since I don't have 4K and I'm buying for the Blu Ray disk.I watch most of my physical media on my computer and computer monitor so 4K is out for me even if I got a 4k T.V. and player since I would hardly use it unless i had company.

It's fine if Blu Ray got a standalone release but if not then I want the combo.

With that said, I hate when these companies cheap out with stacked disks and have had some bad experiences with them.

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I couldn't care less about the Blu-ray version.
As someone who doesn't do 4K,I care a big deal about a Blu Ray version of the film. I'm still pissed off there is no way of watching the Rocky Vs Drago cut of Rocky IV other then 4K disk. Blu Ray users are *bleep* out of luck.

I would be pretty furious if The Abyss and True Lies got a 4K disk release but didn't get a Blu Ray one. It's one thing if a catalog title has gotten a previous Blu Ray release and it's being given a 4K release and isn't including a BD disk. I love that Scream Factory does combos(and remaster/upgrade the BD disk in 4K too) and have taken advantage of this to get films I didn't have beyond VHS or at all. But I get why more studios like WB have dropped the BD combo that already has a BD release. It's annoying especially when it's hard to hunt down the older BD release but I get it.

But for them to just skip a Blu Ray release for The Abyss and True Lies that have never gotten these films released in this format in the U.S. or at all would really be scummy IMO.It was scummy when WB did it with the Rocky Vs Drago cut of Rocky IV and it would be scummy if Disney did that sort of thing with these two films (Aliens and Titanic have been released on BD more then once so I could understand not doing a new BD release with those).The Abyss and True Lies needed BD releases either as standalone releases or as a combo with the 4K disks. Disney went with the latter and sucky stacked disk packaging aside, I'm glad to have them on BD.
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Old 03-29-2024, 11:07 PM   #4564
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Just watched this. Very pleased to have finally seen this film properly.
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Old 03-30-2024, 01:45 AM   #4565
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just received a notice from amazon on the ship date , late april . for my copy , so relax more on on the way , too bad for the scalpers .
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Old 03-30-2024, 04:30 AM   #4566
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Great, my 4K disc has a couple of fine scratches because of the goddamn stacking and there are major skips. Does anyone know of a possible replacement program from Disney themselves?
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Old 03-30-2024, 05:53 AM   #4567
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I don't have a 4K setup, only a TV. Sucks to hear that some folks are having issues with the 4K disc due to unneeded scratches. I noticed very little scratches on the former and Blu-ray disc, if anything, the bonus disc has the most scratches.

Played the Blu-ray twice with zero issues, thankfully.
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Old 03-30-2024, 07:24 AM   #4568
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Great, my 4K disc has a couple of fine scratches because of the goddamn stacking and there are major skips. Does anyone know of a possible replacement program from Disney themselves?
Oh boy, I mean if Disney have to then do a replacement disc program the rest of the world might get their releases some time in 2025…!
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Old 03-30-2024, 09:27 AM   #4569
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Has anyone compared these 4k Camerons with the matching blu rays? I can't imagine there being a huge difference.
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Old 03-30-2024, 09:48 AM   #4570
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Has anyone compared these 4k Camerons with the matching blu rays? I can't imagine there being a huge difference.
4K is higher resolution, 10 bit video, wider colour space and HDR. I imagine these benefit this film as much as any other.
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Old 03-30-2024, 11:45 AM   #4571
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Has anyone compared these 4k Camerons with the matching blu rays? I can't imagine there being a huge difference.
Two of these (Abyss & TL) aren’t on blu, they’re only on DVD.

For Aliens there are caps to look at and compare but it’s best seeing all for yourself so you can decide.
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Old 03-30-2024, 11:47 AM   #4572
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Two of these (Abyss & TL) aren’t on blu, they’re only on DVD.

For Aliens there are caps to look at and compare but it’s best seeing all for yourself so you can decide.
He means the blurays that come with the UHDs
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Old 03-30-2024, 02:07 PM   #4573
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On youtube midlevelmedia says there are people claiming to have received scratched unplayable discs because this three disc set is in a 2 disc case. Given how cheap 4k players are, would people really care if the included blu-ray edition of the movie was excluded?
The players are inexpensive(not cheap), but then you have to invest in a whole new TV.

Plus, I really dislike all the issues I'm hearing about with the UHD discs, versus standard Blu-ray, which I'm still very content with.

I have no plans to get UHD. Blu-ray is is the final physical format for me.
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Old 03-30-2024, 02:21 PM   #4574
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The players are inexpensive(not cheap), but then you have to invest in a whole new TV.

Plus, I really dislike all the issues I'm hearing about with the UHD discs, versus standard Blu-ray, which I'm still very content with.

I have no plans to get UHD. Blu-ray is is the final physical format for me.
It's all up to you, of course! But you're definitely missing out on a lot of HUGE upgrades:
the UHDs of Black Hawk Down, Southern Comfort, True Romance, Starship Troopers, eXistenZ (to name only a few) blow their bluray counterparts out of the water, I shit you not!

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Old 03-30-2024, 02:38 PM   #4575
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Sold out and unavailable from Amazon US.
I ended up getting mine from Walmart.
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Old 03-30-2024, 02:38 PM   #4576
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It's all up to you, of course! But you're definitely missing out on a lot of HUGE upgrades:
the UHDs of Black Hawk Down, Southern Comfort, True Romance, Starship Troopers, eXistenZ (to name only a few) beat their bluray counterparts out of the water, I shit you not!
Worth upgrading just for Die Hard and Predator.
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Old 03-30-2024, 03:08 PM   #4577
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Worth upgrading just for Die Hard and Predator.
My initiation to upgrade my setup to 4K were the rather crappy blus of Black Hawk Down, Scarface and last, not least, The Big Lebowski. Somewhere on this forum I read a user's phrase of "an upgrade of Lebowskian proportions". Lebowski is definitely a textbook example for a glorious 4K upgrade over the DNRed, edge enhancencement plagued, old blu master. Yikes!

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=2&x...4&l=1&i=9&go=1

Of course, Die Hard and Predator are essential upgrades, as well!

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Old 03-30-2024, 04:44 PM   #4578
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Has anyone compared these 4k Camerons with the matching blu rays? I can't imagine there being a huge difference.
Abyss: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...9#post21964719
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True Lies: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=3878
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Old 03-30-2024, 05:04 PM   #4579
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Got my copy of this one with circumferential scratches on the UHD but clean copies of the BDs. Amazon only offering a return. What to do here? I could send it back for refund and order later, and then end up with multiple scratched discs.


I could order elsewhere and end up with worse, and not have an exchange option AT ALL.
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Old 03-30-2024, 05:39 PM   #4580
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Those UHD screenshots have been downconverted from 10bit HDR to 8bit SDR, so you can't really judge how much better the UHD looks from that.
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