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Member-222782 · 10-01-2023, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jeff BD

You’ve never seen Titanic and have no desire to watch??

They're probably a "bandwaggoner". Jump on the popular opinion bandwagon out of principle, except it's not really a popular opinion, just some shortsighted folks dismissing an entire film because they felt it took some artistic liberties. Their loss.

Zechs Merquise · 10-01-2023, 11:34 AM

I don't think the 'artistic liberties' are people's problem with Titanic. It's a romance movie with some very high quality special effects and production design. If you loved the Cameron that did Terminator, Aliens, T2 and The Abyss, yeah there's gonna be some mood whiplash for you

Member-222782 · 10-01-2023, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Zechs Merquise

I don't think the 'artistic liberties' are people's problem with Titanic. It's a romance movie with some very high quality special effects and production design. If you loved the Cameron that did Terminator, Aliens, T2 and The Abyss, yeah there's gonna be some mood whiplash for you

There's plenty of well-staged action in Titanic if that's what people were looking for, but it wouldn't have been much of a spectacle if it was just about the ship sinking and nothing else. They were able to achieve that in 1958 with A Night To Remember - an excellent film - but Cameron wasn't going for a straight remake, rightfully (and wisely) so. Cameron also writes strong characters, which is partly what makes his films so relatable and thrilling. All the films you mentioned feature well-defined characters you actually care for - an attribute that gives the films meaning. Who remembers a film they watched last week if it's populated by disagreeable characters? That's what Cameron tried to do - very successfully - with Titanic and why it made so much money.

By_His_Strypes · 10-01-2023, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cinema84

When this finally gets announced, discussion will quickly go from “it’s about damned time” to “I’m not buying anything until reviews confirm there’s no DNR”. Frankly, I’m surprised that hasn’t happened already. Armchair critics lie in wait

lol I'm buying this no matter what, even if it includes a James Cameron stool sample.

Doomhunter · 10-01-2023, 12:27 PM

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Melton · 10-01-2023, 12:31 PM

What are the chances of Cameron bungling this release as badly as he did T2?

My guess is that this should be OK, barring some unnecessary teal colour retiming. I believe the T2 botch job was due to Cameron slapping the DNR’d 3D version on a 2D canvas, which also meant the Director’s Cut was excluded from the 4K.

Here’s hoping The Abyss will be a dedicated UHD version from the ground up, complete with Director’s Cut.

elgee · 10-01-2023, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bolty

Can the theatrical and the Extended Cut fit easily even on a bd100 disc? It seems to me that it would only work if each version had their own disc.

The DVD had both on one disc thanks to seamless branching. I'm not sure it's possible on UHD, though.

OutOfBoose · 10-01-2023, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mierzwiak

Create three new threads?

Sounds like a plan.

rdodolak · 10-01-2023, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by stvn1974

The Abyss will finally ger released but when people start getting their copies it will be found that the discs are all blank due to an authoring error. Disney will start a replacement program and it will take twenty-five more years for the disc to ship out.

This probably isn't too far from the truth. Cameron would decide that he didn't want to look at the current HD transfer again and want to do it right.

Pocketkid2 · 10-01-2023, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Zechs Merquise

I don't think the 'artistic liberties' are people's problem with Titanic. It's a romance movie with some very high quality special effects and production design. If you loved the Cameron that did Terminator, Aliens, T2 and The Abyss, yeah there's gonna be some mood whiplash for you

I think this is the right answer. A lot of people seem to think Titanic is some sort of chick flick. The fact that the selling point is most often young Winslet and DiCaprio doesn't help that.

That being said, I personally love Titanic just as much as the other Cameron films, because I see his influence in it and I love the fact that he tried something totally new and that overall it works despite its flaws.

Pocketkid2 · 10-01-2023, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Melton

What are the chances of Cameron bungling this release as badly as he did T2?

My guess is that this should be OK, barring some unnecessary teal colour retiming. I believe the T2 botch job was due to Cameron slapping the DNR’d 3D version on a 2D canvas, which also meant the Director’s Cut was excluded from the 4K.

Here’s hoping The Abyss will be a dedicated UHD version from the ground up, complete with Director’s Cut.

As far as we know, the upcoming release is from a brand new 4K scan of the Special Edition (extended/director's cut). We don't know how much DNR but the people who saw the 2K DCP on Wednesday said it looked pretty good.

Pocketkid2 · 10-01-2023, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by elgee

The DVD had both on one disc thanks to seamless branching. I'm not sure it's possible on UHD, though.

UHD does have seamless branching, in which case a BD-100 will be adequate for both cuts (not sure why anyone would watch the theatrical though)

Ben_UK · 10-01-2023, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rdodolak

This probably isn't too far from the truth. Cameron would decide that he didn't want to look at the current HD transfer again and want to do it right.

I wonder what his excuse is for T2 then?

Chad Rouch · 10-01-2023, 03:55 PM

So, six pages in and the most confirmation of a release is Jim Cameron saying the master is ready but the release is, "out of my hands." Am I reading that right? That's supposed to be a confirmation?

Rayjg · 10-01-2023, 03:57 PM

No theatrical cut, no sale.

ImBlu_DaBaDee · 10-01-2023, 03:59 PM

The Abyss 4K UHD (1989) NOT Confirmed

mechamacbeth · 10-01-2023, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by By_His_Strypes

lol I'm buying this no matter what, even if it includes a James Cameron stool sample.

Neither would I. Now a urine sample...

bradnoyes · 10-01-2023, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by infiniteCR

Hi Dad

By_His_Strypes · 10-01-2023, 05:28 PM

It takes some time for the official confirmation to reach the surface when you are dealing in The Abyss.

Ray Jackson · 10-01-2023, 05:49 PM

Will the documentary be included?

…that’s the real question.

10-01-2023, 11:34 AM	#102
Zechs Merquise Special Member Member since:Oct 2012	I don't think the 'artistic liberties' are people's problem with Titanic. It's a romance movie with some very high quality special effects and production design. If you loved the Cameron that did Terminator, Aliens, T2 and The Abyss, yeah there's gonna be some mood whiplash for you

10-01-2023, 12:27 PM	#105
Doomhunter Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jul 2021 Location:New England 4K collection:127 Blu-ray collection:659 DVD collection:207 Prime collection:1	Proof of having ridden in a submersible required to purchase

10-01-2023, 12:31 PM	#106
Melton Banned Member since:Jul 2023	What are the chances of Cameron bungling this release as badly as he did T2? My guess is that this should be OK, barring some unnecessary teal colour retiming. I believe the T2 botch job was due to Cameron slapping the DNR’d 3D version on a 2D canvas, which also meant the Director’s Cut was excluded from the 4K. Here’s hoping The Abyss will be a dedicated UHD version from the ground up, complete with Director’s Cut.

10-01-2023, 03:55 PM	#114
Chad Rouch Senior Member Member since:Jul 2009 4K collection:88 Blu-ray collection:109 Digital collection:8 iTunes collection:739 Trading Score:1	So, six pages in and the most confirmation of a release is Jim Cameron saying the master is ready but the release is, "out of my hands." Am I reading that right? That's supposed to be a confirmation?

10-01-2023, 03:57 PM	#115
Rayjg Blu-ray Champion Member since:Aug 2016	No theatrical cut, no sale.

10-01-2023, 03:59 PM	#116
ImBlu_DaBaDee Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Nov 2018 4K collection:266 Blu-ray collection:433 DVD collection:30	The Abyss 4K UHD (1989) NOT Confirmed

10-01-2023, 05:28 PM	#119
By_His_Strypes Banned Member since:Oct 2014 4K collection:177 Blu-ray collection:367	It takes some time for the official confirmation to reach the surface when you are dealing in The Abyss.

10-01-2023, 05:49 PM	#120
Ray Jackson Blu-ray Duke Member since:Apr 2013 Location:The dark underbelly of Anytown, USA 4K collection:102 Blu-ray collection:455 DVD collection:9 Digital collection:74 Trading Score:183	Will the documentary be included? …that’s the real question.

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