The Abyss 4K UHD (1989)

[-JKR-]

Originally Posted by samlop10

A very small silver lining seems to be the one that never got a blu-ray release before this is the better looking one. True Lies’ Spanish blu-ray is decent for what it is. Definitely an older master but it reminds me of T2’s older master on blu-ray as well, which was more filmic than the 4K even if definitely not perfect.

The Abyss, as well as True Lies, had a previous HD remaster done by Lowry, which was really good.

It was never released on disc, but was used on streaming platforms as well as cable broadcasts.

It's just a bummer that we never got the Special Edition remastered by Lowry.

[samlop10]

Originally Posted by -JKR-

The Abyss, as well as True Lies, had a previous HD remaster done by Lowry, which was really good.

It was never released on disc, but was used on streaming platforms as well as cable broadcasts.

It's just a bummer that we never got the Special Edition remastered by Lowry.

Yeah. Those specific restorations never made it to disc which is a shame. I’d probably take those restorations on standard blu-ray over these new 4K modernizations/revisionisms (i am now hesitant to call them restorations).

[-JKR-]

Originally Posted by samlop10

Yeah. Those specific restorations never made it to disc which is a shame. I’d probably take those restorations on standard blu-ray over these new 4K modernizations/revisionisms (i am now hesitant to call them restorations).

Same.

[vector72]

Originally Posted by Croweyes1121

14.8mbps?? Jesus, no wonder. That’s an anemic bitrate for 1080p, let alone 4K. Hell, I even encoded SEHD at 25Mbps, and that’s just BD. There’s literally nothing to be taken from a stream that crushed. I’ll be enjoying this on disc. As I said, it’s been decades, what’s 90 more days?

A majority of 4k streaming is 15 Mbps, but it has nothing to do with disc encoding. Compression for streaming is handled differently, there's never a 1:1 correlation.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by samlop10

(i am now hesitant to call them restorations).

They're remasters anyway, not restorations.

[mjvmovieman]

Originally Posted by Croweyes1121

This all day. I’m still holding out (a fool’s) hope that the reason the SE hasn’t rolled out yet is that someone is actually addressing the audio issues I told them about. I doubt it, but I can dream.

It has on Amazon and is a bonus feature in HDX on the Vudu copy of Abyss.

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by samlop10

A very small silver lining seems to be the one that never got a blu-ray release before this is the better looking one. True Lies’ Spanish blu-ray is decent for what it is. Definitely an older master but it reminds me of T2’s older master on blu-ray as well, which was more filmic than the 4K even if definitely not perfect.

The spanish bootleg BD used the D-VHS master released exactly 20 years ago

[-JKR-]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

The spanish bootleg BD used the D-VHS master released exactly 20 years ago

Yeah, it's not good.

[Croweyes1121]

Originally Posted by mjvmovieman

It has on Amazon and is a bonus feature in HDX on the Vudu copy of Abyss.

Right, I just mean in general. The Amazon one is currently SDR I believe, and the Vudu isn’t 4K, so I’m just hoping there’s a reason for the odd rollout. I was assured that the QC team would be investigating, so I’m hopeful that they’ll actually make good on that and fix the audio issues. Probably won’t happen, but you never know.

[Dr. T]

Originally Posted by Jeyl

One thing I noticed was that certain sound effects were missing. When arriving at Deep Core, the valves that Lindsey turns while Cat is talking to her don't make a hiss noise, the alarm noise for Explorer losing it's thruster is missing during some shots, the first transformation of the water tentacle into Lindsey's face has no sound associated with it at all and the switch noises when Coffee desperately tries to turn Flatbed as he's falling down into the abyss are not present.

It sounds like the left speaker in your movie theater was off or low. All of these sounds are present on the HD/SE 5.1 mix and all are on the left.

[Ernest Rister]

On Vudu, 4K only for the Theatrical Release, standard HD for the Special Edition?

Boooooooo....

Well, if it's the same for the disc in March, to quote Prince Humperdink, I shall be quite put out.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Well, if it's the same for the disc in March, to quote Prince Humperdink, I shall be quite put out.

From everything I've read and heard, both cuts will be 4K on disc and branched.

[Croweyes1121]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

From everything I've read and heard, both cuts will be 4K on disc and branched.

Not mention, I can't believe they'd throw the SE on the disc in 1080p only after it just got a theatrical screening. What I saw on the 6th was certainly not only 1080p.

[jeff BD]

This will be my first time ever watching The Abyss. Never caught it on TV or vhs and was waiting for a blu-ray version. Promised myself I wouldnt watch it on DVD and would wait. Maybe Im lucky that I dont know how it "should" look. And hopefully it lives up to the hype.

[starmike]

Originally Posted by jeff BD

This will be my first time ever watching The Abyss. Never caught it on TV or vhs and was waiting for a blu-ray version. Promised myself I wouldnt watch it on DVD and would wait. Maybe Im lucky that I dont know how it "should" look. And hopefully it lives up to the hype.

It's pretty excellent. I would watch the SE first because the last 10 minutes of the TC makes the movie fall flat.

[jeff BD]

Originally Posted by starmike

It's pretty excellent. I would watch the SE first because the last 10 minutes of the TC makes the movie fall flat.

I'm waiting for it to be avaiable on itunes. The SE edition. Dont mind a longer runtime if its an engaging film. I personally prefer Aliens TC though as It feels better paced for an action film. But this not being an action film I shouldnt

[samlop10]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

The spanish bootleg BD used the D-VHS master released exactly 20 years ago

Yeah i know. Its and old High-def master (1080p?) but so far it looks better than the 4K streaming caps, imo anyway. Similar to the T2 master on the older blu ray vs the 4K disc. I believe that master is from around 2006 (and reused for the 2015 blu ray with better compression).

[KcMsterpce]

Originally Posted by jeff BD

I'm waiting for it to be avaiable on itunes. The SE edition. Dont mind a longer runtime if its an engaging film. I personally prefer Aliens TC though as It feels better paced for an action film. But this not being an action film I shouldnt

It would be cool to see the SE version first.
The TC is also good, but I agree that the last ten minutes feels kinda rushed and disjointed, especially after seeing the SE. Even before the SE came out, I felt the conclusion was kinda deus ex machina-ish, but it managed to pull itself together just enough to not upset my love of the movie.

[jeff BD]

Originally Posted by KcMsterpce

It would be cool to see the SE version first.
The TC is also good, but I agree that the last ten minutes feels kinda rushed and disjointed, especially after seeing the SE. Even before the SE came out, I felt the conclusion was kinda deus ex machina-ish, but it managed to pull itself together just enough to not upset my love of the movie.

Yea Im planning on diving into the SE as most ppl, including Cameron, say its the way to go.

[PeterTHX]

Of all of James Cameron's films, The Abyss SE is the only extended version I prefer over the original theatrical cut.