The Abyss 4K UHD (1989)

[rubystone356]

Movie anywhere has connected to Amazon. Unfortunately its the theatre version. Still waiting for MA to be added to youtube.

Jacob

[LSK]

Originally Posted by By_His_Strypes

It is watchable, but it's a non anamorphic presentation like a bunch of early DVD releases were. It would probably look better on a 27" Sony Trinitron using an S-Video connection.

True. But even zoomed in a little, due to its non-anamorphic presentation, it looked pretty decent to me. I'll probably even watch the SE tomorrow.

[bilbofett]

Originally Posted by Jbabler

The aliens are a very MacGuffin-y MacGuffin, as are the Cold War conflict events on the surface .

The story would have been better served had we been privy to an escalating fight above the water to parallel the one below.

they literally show the crew underwater watching all the news channels and seeing that military escalation is happening all over the world, troops are lining up for war between Russia and the U.S. They made it crystal clear an escalation to war is underway.
Of course the aliens are not a MacGuffin or a Deus Ex Machina at all; the aliens are threatening to destroy the Earth and "start it all over from scratch again" but spare the planet because if one husband and wife fighting can reconcile then there's still hope for humanity. Its a 1:1 direct correlation.

[bilbofett]

Originally Posted by By_His_Strypes

Well, only a fool is sure of anything, a wise man keeps on guessing.

so are you sure this quote is true? Or are you doubtful of its veracity (and thus wise?)

[bilbofett]

Originally Posted by LSK

I just watched it on my old region 1 DVD and saw the theatrical version. It's still a one of a kind movie that you almost feel you participate in and years ago it was my favorite Laserdisc Special Edition that Cameron had done.

Today, I feel almost a strange disconnect from it. What's the point of it all? It's full of crises and set-pieces, but is it really just about an estranged couple that find each other again, under water, with the help of some aliens? Aliens that have no bearing on the story otherwise - they are just there. The SE is almost half an hour longer, and I clearly remember liking that version more, back in the day, but I also clearly remember growing tired of it, when I watched it years later, on that same DVD I just saw tonight.

That old DVD is perfectly watchable, by the way, but I'll probably still get the UHD and watch it again next year, and hopefully enjoy the film more.

Of course the aliens are not a MacGuffin or a Deus Ex Machina at all; the aliens are threatening to destroy the Earth and "start it all over from scratch again" but spare the planet because if one husband and wife fighting can reconcile then there's still hope for humanity. Its a 1:1 direct correlation.

[stvn1974]

Good thing the scientists weren't John and Lorena Bobbitt then or humanity would have been f****ed.

[By_His_Strypes]

Originally Posted by bilbofett

so are you sure this quote is true? Or are you doubtful of its veracity (and thus wise?)

It's something I heard a long long time ago that has stuck with me. I find it's fitting to say when someone is so sure of what they are saying, and believes there is not any possibility they could be mistaken.

[Geoff D]

There is no being "mistaken" in matters of taste though which is what makes it rather pointless when used in this context, it's why the same 'discussion' is going around and around and around from the same people with no end in sight. But hey, I'm sure it sounded good at the time.

[ClassicCraig]

Originally Posted by frogmort

So basically, you hate film grain too and can identify with the way James Cameron adds AI to his films.

I think visible film grain is a defect.

I don't identify with the way James Cameron adds AI to his films if it destroys texture (replacing texture with new texture is also destructive).

[MEB]

There is only one phrase that accurately describes varying versions of 'The Abyss' being available in differing qualities on different streaming services. A gigantic cluster F.

The SE in 4K over here, but not in the other places. The SE in HD over there and over there, but not in this other place. No SE at all in some places. Some transfer via Movies Anywhere, others do not.

Pathetic marketing. I'll not have any part of it and I certainly won't be buying a film from Amazon Prime in ANY circumstance. Prime is the LEAST reliable of all of the streaming services we use.

Come on March, hurry up and get here! I sure hope the 4K Blu-ray release of 'The Abyss' isn't as cluster f'd as the digital release.

Mark

[Geoff D]

Well I'm sure we won't have to worry about some retailers offering the theatrical version only

[By_His_Strypes]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

There is no being "mistaken" in matters of taste though which is what makes it rather pointless when used in this context, it's why the same 'discussion' is going around and around and around from the same people with no end in sight. But hey, I'm sure it sounded good at the time.

It did actually, it still sounds good. but like you said it's a matter of taste.

[bilbofett]

Originally Posted by By_His_Strypes

It's something I heard a long long time ago that has stuck with me. I find it's fitting to say when someone is so sure of what they are saying, and believes there is not any possibility they could be mistaken.

Right, so are you SURE of this trueness of this quote? If you are, then you contradict its main premise. If you doubt it (which the quote itself requires) then you would be wise. In other words, its wise for us to doubt your quote here

[bilbofett]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

Good thing the scientists weren't John and Lorena Bobbitt then or humanity would have been f****ed.

Yes, and good thing Coffee wasn't O.J. Simpson otherwise that crew all would've probably woke up dead in the morning, etc.

[By_His_Strypes]

Originally Posted by bilbofett

Right, so are you SURE of this trueness of this quote? If you are, then you contradict its main premise. If you doubt it (which the quote itself requires) then you would be wise. In other words, its wise for us to doubt your quote here

Ha!... walk with the wise and be wise... run with the fool, never rise.

[thesaxmaniac]

Originally Posted by MEB

There is only one phrase that accurately describes varying versions of 'The Abyss' being available in differing qualities on different streaming services. A gigantic cluster F.

The SE in 4K over here, but not in the other places. The SE in HD over there and over there, but not in this other place. No SE at all in some places. Some transfer via Movies Anywhere, others do not.

Pathetic marketing. I'll not have any part of it and I certainly won't be buying a film from Amazon Prime in ANY circumstance. Prime is the LEAST reliable of all of the streaming services we use.

Come on March, hurry up and get here! I sure hope the 4K Blu-ray release of 'The Abyss' isn't as cluster f'd as the digital release.

Mark

Gabe Newell on piracy: "We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem," he said. "If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable."

Making the 4k Disc available several months after the digital stream, and making the stream not available in the highest quality in some regions...yeah this is why people just steal it.

[KcMsterpce]

Originally Posted by bilbofett

Right, so are you SURE of this trueness of this quote? If you are, then you contradict its main premise. If you doubt it (which the quote itself requires) then you would be wise. In other words, its wise for us to doubt your quote here

You may say the quote is true, but only a fool would believe what he is told - and I am not a fool - therefore I cannot accept the quote as true.
But, you also KNOW that I am not a fool - you would have counted on it - so I can clearly choose to accept the quote as true!

[LSK]

Originally Posted by bilbofett

Of course the aliens are not a MacGuffin or a Deus Ex Machina at all; the aliens are threatening to destroy the Earth and "start it all over from scratch again" but spare the planet because if one husband and wife fighting can reconcile then there's still hope for humanity. Its a 1:1 direct correlation.

Yes, in the SE.

There's no threat from the NTI's in the theatrical version.

[rubystone356]

https://www.hometheaterforum.com/the...al-uhd-review/

Jacob

[By_His_Strypes]

Originally Posted by rubystone356

https://www.hometheaterforum.com/the...al-uhd-review/

Jacob

A pretty favorable review. I'm sure you will still have some out there saying how bad this transfer is. They are certainly entitled, but they would more likely have more of an ulterior motive rather than critiquing what they are watching.