Screenshot Comparisons 4K

[OutOfBoose]

What's blue on the BD is cyan-green on the UHD. Weird. Maybe due to the conversion, the real world shouldn't look green.

But overall, resolution is mighty impressive. Especially on well-lit wide shots and close-ups.

[Pyoko]

Lovely grain for the most part (except the oversaturation in the third shot.)

The remastered BD looks very bleach bypassy in comparison.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

Maybe due to the conversion, the real world shouldn't look green.

In this case, perhaps more than any other... what's the real world got to do with it?

[OutOfBoose]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

In this case, perhaps more than any other... what's the real world got to do with it?

Nothing. I'm talking about artistic intent.

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by Riddhi2011

Just compare these images and you'll see how the 3D Blu-ray is the closest to the colour timing in the 35mm prints. Keep in mind that the projected 35mm image would be slightly brighter -

3. 35mm

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4. 3D BD

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It's almost the same (the contrast is a bit higher in the prints because the projection bulbs will reveal details hidden in those dark areas during an actual screening) There's a bit more cyan-green on the prints which the 3D version lacks. That's because digital grading and photochemical timing ain't the same thing. Yet people will say the 3D colours are not correct. It should look very warm, which the UHD colours aren't.

It is pretty obvious that every other home video is simply wrong in the colour department!

Except the fact that the WHITE Jurassic Park lettering on the jeep is yellow in the 3D version, so it's certainly far from correct. There's a difference in it being warm and it having a blanket incorrect yellow grade.

[Pyoko]

Originally Posted by Riddhi2011

I've compiled some 35mm film frames from various sources which'll give you guys a very clear idea about how the colours and contrast of JP1 is supposed to be. And it's NOT like the UHD -

https://imgur.com/a/RtHd0iH

But those brachiosaurus shots are awful, hard to take that as gospel.

[JohnCarpenterFan]

The 3D version was intended to be seen in 3D. There was even a promotional video released to tie in with the theatrical reissue of them working on color while wearing 3D glasses.

When you actually watch it in 3D while wearing 3D glasses the colors look a lot better and appear as intended. Watching it in 2D or just looking at screenshots is an entirely different animal.

[OutOfBoose]

The bug removal scene looks crushed to shit on the UHD.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Pyoko

Lovely grain for the most part (except the oversaturation in the third shot.)

The remastered BD looks very bleach bypassy in comparison.

Even then, you'd have to have your nose up to the screen to really notice it in motion whereas the grain literally looks dupier on the BD due to the lower resolution and poorer compression, it seems to 'scatter' it more throughout the film.

[slask]

Can someone post a comparison between UHD screenshots of The Matrix and the old blu-ray?

[Sulderp]

https://www.caps-a-holic.com/c.php?g...116834&i=0&l=1

[Alfred E. Neumann]

Yuck...
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...116905&i=1&l=1

[SynViks]

That is indeed embarrassingly bad.

[andreasy969]

Braveheart

Some comments again this time, because I love Braveheart and I really love this disc (despite its little warpaint glitch). I think it smashes my beloved Braveheart BD. The caps are at 100 nits since the HDR doesn't appear to be doing much here like others did point out already - some skies still are brighter with slightly more dynamic range for example though. I guess I'm actually glad that Braveheart didn't receive a revisionist HDR treatment. This is just a lovely, filmic presentation, but don't expect any HDR wonders with this one.

Other than that, the aliasing is gone (never bothered me, but still glad it's gone), there's plenty more detail to be found here, be that with close-ups or wide shots, and even if there isn't more detail, there's still a lovely fine layer of grain. I also (very much) prefer the colors, I think they are more accurate and mirror what I believe (!) to remember having seen in the theater back then and some scenes just look bad on the BD to me in comparison now (I will also point to one scene in particular - added some comments again).

After Braveheart, I really wish Paramount would've done Gladiator themselves (despite Grease, I think it might've fared better), but I'm still glad it's not the other way round.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/114348

BD (upscaled) left, UHD-BD (madVR/SDR/100 nits) right

Disclaimer as to why the UHD-BD images may appear to be too dim:

[Show spoiler]Please note that the UHD-BD shots have been converted from HDR to SDR using special techniques, which drastically compresses the dynamic range of the original image (the color bit depth has been compressed as well). The UHD-BD shots are therefore not an accurate representation of the original HDR image - dynamic range, colors (tone and intensity) and contrast should be taken with a big pinch of salt and the main focus should be on comparing details. Typically, the image will appear too dark (which is by design when the caps are done at 200 nits), may lack a certain "pop" and may at times also appear "boosted" when compared to the BD shots. The SDR conversion should still give you a good idea of the actual image of the UHD-BD though and one should also be able to at least catch a glimpse of the increased dynamic range. The BD shots have been upscaled for comparison purposes, but other than that should be accurate. You might also want to check out this post of mine (incl. the further link there) where I tried to show/explain this:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=589

good example of the aliasing of the BD being gone:












blue sky and much more pronounced white warpaint (maybe they even added it here?):






the warpaint glitch (which I luckily consider a non-issue when watching the movie on the big screen):


the one frame where the glitch is basically completely gone since the shadow of the sword happens to cover the problematic area; you can literally see (when stepping through the frames) the glitch partially disappearing as the shadow moves forward into the area (see https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...ostcount=421):












the UHD almost "doubles" the rings of the chain mail here or just look at his smeared face on the BD:


the chasing Wallace in the background being much more defined:




this whole scene (next two caps) in particular really looks so much better on the UHD, both color and detail wise (the former imho mind you):




just look at the lovely texture of the red robe:

[UpsetSmiley]

Thanks for the caps! The UHD looks gorgeously filmic. Beautiful, just beautiful.

[Spartan21]

Thank you andreasy. Braveheart looks great!

[Geoff D]

Ugh, it looks so cold and flat. Me no likey.

[Blu-21]

The warm colours of the BD looks more analog to my eyes next to the UHD.

[brainofj72]

There really is a considerable difference in the colors. Overall, the UHD looks better to my eyes (look at how much the green of the grass is improved in some of those early caps), but I can see something being said for the warmer look of the BD.

[benhoppel]

The aliasing in Braveheart BD is a chroma bug.