Samsung 4K UHD Blu-ray Player UBD-K8500

[Minimejer05]

Originally Posted by bruceames.

They haven't even really made it to the shelves yet, given the waiting lists. If they do they're gone right away. Amazon doesn't have nor does the official Samsung site for that matter (where I originally preordered from but thankfully changed to BB).

I really don't know what's going on and why they can't deliver more players.

I just wish Amazon could at the very least give us an expected arrival date. Temp out of stock could mean days, weeks or even a month. Do they not know when they're expecting their shipments in and of how much so they can at least give us customers a heads up.

[montyb]

Originally Posted by LessThanPunk

No matter what I do I get the HDCP 2.2 error with this player. I use a Denon 2200w receiver with my LG 55EF9500. All should be able to do HDCP 2.2, but this player always gives me the error. The menu only plays in 1080p, but the movie is playing in 2160p. Any idea how to fix this?

I have a Denon receiver (910) that gives me an error. I plugged one HDMI directly to the TV and the other to my receiver for lossless audio. Now no more error messages.

[sfric]

Originally Posted by bruceames.

They haven't even really made it to the shelves yet, given the waiting lists. If they do they're gone right away. Amazon doesn't have nor does the official Samsung site for that matter (where I originally preordered from but thankfully changed to BB).

I really don't know what's going on and why they can't deliver more players.

Hhgregg has them in stock:

http://www.hhgregg.com/samsung-4k-ul.../item/UBDK8500

[scorpiontail60]

I don't know why people are so obsessed with Amazon and Best Buy when not only does HHGregg have them on hand, they are $40 cheaper than Amazon/Best Buy because when you make an account on hhgregg they e-mail you a 10% off discount code you can use on your order. And they have free shipping.

I got my player from them a week ago, three days after ordering it, and I paid $375 (after tax).

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by sfric

Hhgregg has them in stock:

http://www.hhgregg.com/samsung-4k-ul.../item/UBDK8500

Well there you go. Thanks for the info.

[scottmcasey]

After many hours trying to get output from this player looking just right, I had a breakthrough last night and wanted to share, in the event it may help other users enjoy a better picture.

I purchased the LG 60UF8500 last year. While I had attempted to calibrate it at the time, the Samsung UBD-K8500 gave me the opportunity to reassess my settings. I used the Disney WOW Blu-ray for the calibration. As it turns out, I basically used the APS picture mode default with a few minor tweaks.

This is the setting I use when playing back DVD and Blu-ray:

HDMI ULTRA HD Deep Color: On

APS (User)

• Backlight: 90

• Contract: 100

• Brightness: 50

• Sharpness: 25 (which is the mid-point)

• Color: 50

• Tint: 0

• Color Temperature: C20

Advanced Controls

• Dynamic Contrast: Low

• Dynamic Color: Off

• Color Gamut: Wide

• Super Resolution: Off

• Gamma: High 2

Picture Options

• Noise Reduction: Off

• MPEG Noise Reduction: Off

• Black Level: Low

• Real Cinema: On

• Motion Eye Care: Off

• LED Local Dimming: High

• TruMotion: Off

Since my TV is not HDR, UHD Blu-rays looked dark. After reading some of the posts on here, I learned that the HDR signal to the TV basically pushes the contrast to 100 (which mine was already set at) and increases the Brightness by 20. So, I used the Cinema picture mode on my TV to reflect these changes. I copied all of the setting from above with the following changes:

Cinema (User)

• Brightness: 70

• Color: 53

This is the picture mode for watching UHD Blu-rays.

I also tried various settings on the Samsung UHD-K8500 player to try to improve my perception of the overall picture. Here is what I decided on:

Picture

• HDMI Color Format: YCbCr(4:4:4)

• HDMI Deep Color: Off

Picture Mode - User

• Sharpness: 0

• Noise Reduction: 0

• Contrast: 0

• Brightness: -2

• Color: +3

• Tint (G/R): G10/R10

Thus far, a quick scan of the 18 UHD Blu-rays that I have nearly all look outstanding (Expendables 3 and Ender's Game being the mild disappointments). I just need to toggle between picture modes on my TV depending on the type of disc I am playing.

The key scene that helped calibrate my settings is at the 30:23 mark in San Andreas. In the restaurant at the top of the hotel, when the window is behind the two ladies sitting at the table, you should be able to see an airplane in the sky.

Hope this has been helpful.

[SHOCKWAVE6464]

This whole situation is almost like what happened when the PS4 first came out. Everything got sold out and people had to wait at least a month for it to come back in stock

[Derb]

Originally Posted by katiehlvr2

Thanks alot for your feedback!!

Oh not done yet. lol

I always believe I can find a better image & since my set is a non-HDR I'm using the player's assets now.

Same set-up as I posted,

Enhanced RGB, but am now tweaking the player's user settings instead of "Standard" picture mode.

So far I've come up with one that makes Color look as accurate as "Movie" & Contrast that is better than "Standard"

Still field testing. Been doing so for the past 5 hours now & I believe I've found one better then both of those in "User"

Dynamic is just plain overkill. IMO.

Using The Martian as prime experiment.

Set-up.

Feel free to try these, lemme know what ya think? Depending on your tv's calibration, you may find these not suitable.

HDMI Color Format - RGB (Enhanced)
HDMI Deep Color - Auto

Player Picture settings - User
Sharpness - (0)
Noise Reduction - (0)
Contrast - (+3)
Brightness - (-1)
Color - (-1)
Tint - G10/R10

I know these bring out the best detail with the least amount of noise in the picture & Color is more accurate then both Dynamic & Standard using The Martian

Next up is Exodus with these settings. I'll let ya know if these "changes for the better" apply to that film later or not.

[katiehlvr2]

Originally Posted by Derb

Oh not done yet. lol

I always believe I can find a better image & since my set is a non-HDR I'm using the player's assets now.

Same set-up as I posted,

Enhanced RGB, but am now tweaking the player's user settings instead of "Standard" picture mode.

So far I've come up with one that makes Color look as accurate as "Movie" & Contrast that is better than "Standard"

Still field testing. Been doing so for the past 5 hours now & I believe I've found one better then both of those in "User"

Dynamic is just plain overkill. IMO.

Using The Martian as prime experiment.

Set-up.

Feel free to try these, lemme know what ya think? Depending on your tv's calibration, you may find these not suitable.

HDMI Color Format - RGB (Enhanced)
HDMI Deep Color - Auto

Player Picture settings - User
Sharpness - (0)
Noise Reduction - (0)
Contrast - (+3)
Brightness - (-1)
Color - (-1)
Tint - G10/R10

I know these bring out the best detail with the least amount of noise in the picture & Color is more accurate then both Dynamic & Standard using The Martian

Next up is Exodus with these settings. I'll let ya know if these "changes for the better" apply to that film later or not.

Do these seem to work for blu ray too?

[Minimejer05]

Originally Posted by SHOCKWAVE6464

This whole situation is almost like what happened when the PS4 first came out. Everything got sold out and people had to wait at least a month for it to come back in stock

Worse though. At least PS4's got the proper displays and promotion. Basically every Best Buy employee that I talked to about 4K either didn't know what it was or had no idea if their store was going to carry anything, not to mention the complete lack of knowing when stuff was supposed to be released, despite the player and movies being displayed IN THE AD.

When the PS4 (or any popular gaming system) came out I'm sure all employees were trained or at least informed of the hot ticket item and how to handle sales/questions.

[Derb]

Originally Posted by katiehlvr2

Do these seem to work for blu ray too?

Looking at Exodus,

Yes though image is slightly darker & resolution decrease is noticeable. Still the player does an excellent job upscaling. Much better then my Sony. Makes me appreciate Exodus in 4K a lot more.

Watched my 5th UHD being Hitman: Agent 47 yesterday & still Exodus looks like the go-to reference title to showcase this format. Absolutely stunning, HDR or no HDR.

[movielover1069]

Originally Posted by Adam_ME

Pretty sure HDMI 2.0 cables do the same thing as 2.0a cables. There's no way I'm not seeing HDR when I play these UHD titles.

Apparently they have extra support for HDR. It certainly made a big difference with my pq.

[BiffTannen50]

Im buying more and more imports and am looking to purchase a region free player anybody have any suggestions on really good ones?.. And also just curious as to what actually causes a blu ray player not to be able to read or play other region discs is their a block on the disc itself or does the blu ray player operate differently in how the disc is read or spun in the player?

[matth22]

My UBD-K8500 was delivered on Tuesday, unfortunately I was out of town until today. Finally was able to unpack and set up. I have only watched Chappie so far, but I'm very happy with the picture quality so far. My main point of this post is to say thank you for all of the posters in this thread that have posted such high quality helpful tips. They certainly help. Now I'm off to watch some more movies!

[Petey Parker]

Originally Posted by scorpiontail60

I don't know why people are so obsessed with Amazon and Best Buy when not only does HHGregg have them on hand, they are $40 cheaper than Amazon/Best Buy because when you make an account on hhgregg they e-mail you a 10% off discount code you can use on your order. And they have free shipping.

I got my player from them a week ago, three days after ordering it, and I paid $375 (after tax).

Do you know how long it was before you got the code? I made an account yesterday and still no code.

[psicon]

Originally Posted by Derb

Oh not done yet. lol

I always believe I can find a better image & since my set is a non-HDR I'm using the player's assets now.

Same set-up as I posted,

Enhanced RGB, but am now tweaking the player's user settings instead of "Standard" picture mode.

So far I've come up with one that makes Color look as accurate as "Movie" & Contrast that is better than "Standard"

Still field testing. Been doing so for the past 5 hours now & I believe I've found one better then both of those in "User"

Dynamic is just plain overkill. IMO.

Using The Martian as prime experiment.

Set-up.

Feel free to try these, lemme know what ya think? Depending on your tv's calibration, you may find these not suitable.

HDMI Color Format - RGB (Enhanced)
HDMI Deep Color - Auto

Player Picture settings - User
Sharpness - (0)
Noise Reduction - (0)
Contrast - (+3)
Brightness - (-1)
Color - (-1)
Tint - G10/R10

I know these bring out the best detail with the least amount of noise in the picture & Color is more accurate then both Dynamic & Standard using The Martian

Next up is Exodus with these settings. I'll let ya know if these "changes for the better" apply to that film later or not.

From your haul I see you have Kingsman. Put that in and go to 9:55. With your settings how does the white curtain look? For me at +3 on the contrast it's almost solid white. -4 or -5 seems to be the best setting on that for my tv. With that, the contrast still seems slightly off but much better. I think these HDR are not playing well with my Sony 850b. Chappie looks marvelous with my settings.

Edit: played around a little more, 444 color -2 or 3 contrast, - 1 or 2 brightness, -1 color and g9/r11 give me best results where blown out hilights are concerned (the window in Kingsman, the window in the restaurant before the earthquake in San Andreas and the water flowing in Mad Max all had terribly clipped hilights in enhanced unless the contrast was taken down to -5 or -6)
Have to test shadows with these settings later.

[katiehlvr2]

Originally Posted by psicon

From your haul I see you have Kingsman. Put that in and go to 9:55. With your settings how does the white curtain look? For me at +3 on the contrast it's almost solid white. -4 or -5 seems to be the best setting on that for my tv. With that, the contrast still seems slightly off but much better. I think these HDR are not playing well with my Sony 850b. Chappie looks marvelous with my settings.

Edit: played around a little more, 444 color -2 or 3 contrast, - 1 or 2 brightness, -1 color and g9/r11 give me best results where blown out hilights are concerned (the window in Kingsman, the window in the restaurant before the earthquake in San Andreas and the water flowing in Mad Max all had terribly clipped hilights in enhanced unless the contrast was taken down to -5 or -6)
Have to test shadows with these settings later.

How do your dark scenes look with these settings?

[psicon]

Originally Posted by katiehlvr2

How do your dark scenes look with these settings?

Haven't had time to check this morning. I had settings at Rgb enhanced, -5 contrast, +1 brightness until earlier. With those settings the whites were ok but I noticed a few crushed looking scenes in The Last Witch Hunter so later I'll give that a second look with my new settings. Someone mentioned the intro to the Xmen movie, I'll give that another look too.

[katiehlvr2]

Originally Posted by psicon

Haven't had time to check this morning. I had settings at Rgb enhanced, -5 contrast, +1 brightness until earlier. With those settings the whites were ok but I noticed a few crushed looking scenes in The Last Witch Hunter so later I'll give that a second look with my new settings. Someone mentioned the intro to the Xmen movie, I'll give that another look too.

If you do not mind could you post what your best settings are to you once you get them sorted out for the overall picture you go with? I would be curious to know. Especially with very dark scenes. Such as the intro to last witch hunter. The beginning is very dark for a good 10 minutes.

[psicon]

Originally Posted by katiehlvr2

If you do not mind could you post what your best settings are to you once you get them sorted out for the overall picture you go with? I would be curious to know. Especially with very dark scenes. Such as the intro to last witch hunter. The beginning is very dark for a good 10 minutes.

Will do. One thing I also have to check is my tv. Maybe it's not auto-switching to full range. Maybe enhanced would be improved by changing my tv to default to Full.