Samsung 4K UHD Blu-ray Player UBD-K8500

[Tns49]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Okay...so where's our equivalent £70 early bird discount for the UK one? £429 is technically taking the piss!

With that in mind it makes the already-attractive £599 Panasonic price even more enticing to me, because if Samsung have the cheek to sell their lightweight cheapy-spec (e.g. no DAC whatsoever) machine for well over 400 beans, then Panasonic should be charging £699 at the minimum for their tank-like deck!!

Definitely sounds too expensive. Even assuming that includes VAT.

[Mtnbiker2001]

Ok as for the hdcp 2.2 error going through a denon 910 using monster ultra hd black platinums, here's the rundown of my collection of 4k's.

Y = getting hdcp 2.2 error
N = not getting hdcp 2.2 error

Ender's Game - N - Lionsgate
Fantastic 4 - Y - Fox
Hancock - N - Sony
Hitman - N - Fox
Kingsman - N - Fox
Witch Hunter - N - Lionsgate
Mad Max - Y BD Menu Only - WB
Maze Runner - N - Fox
Scorch Trials - N - Fox
Salt - N - Sony
Sicario - N - Lionsgate
Xmen Days of - N - Fox

I must say I was surprised by my results I thought the issue was more prevalent than this. As far as Fantasic 4 goes this happens before the menu loads. All of these play in 4K. Mad Max just gets the error on the menu only, it plays in 4k fine. So the problem is minor considering it only affects 2 titles out of the ones i have. And again they both goto 4k after that error. My tv is the sony xbr65x850b. With this in mind I can't help but think a firmware update might take care of this. I think i'll be keeping it going through the denon 910 avr.

[Minimejer05]

Originally Posted by connect42

Just an update on Amazon's shipping schedule. I order on February 15. I received an email overnight and mine should be here on Thursday.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lucky!!! I ordered mine on Amazon on the 28th, so I'll probably have a few more weeks to wait. Hoping it's not too much longer. Enjoy it.

[ray0414]

im finding some very disturbing problems with this player in how it displays "4k"..

[ray0414]

So im finding some issues with how this player outputs "4k". Some people have discussed possible DNR on these discs. But the problem might be the player itself.

With the mad max disc, heres an upclose facial shot. 1 picture is with the resolution set to "auto", which is defaulting to 4k since it is a 4k disc.

the 2nd picture is with changing the resolution on the player to "1080P".

anyone else see some major differences with the texture of his face and the sharpness of his eyes? there is more detail with the player set at 1080P!






if anybody has the HDMI screen capture and would like to try to replicate this that would be great.

[Oliver K]

Originally Posted by ray0414

So im finding some issues with how this player outputs "4k". Some people have discussed possible DNR on these discs. But the problem might be the player itself.

With the mad max disc, heres an upclose facial shot. 1 picture is with the resolution set to "auto", which is defaulting to 4k since it is a 4k disc.

the 2nd picture is with changing the resolution on the player to "1080P".

anyone else see some major differences with the texture of his face and the sharpness of his eyes? there is more detail with the player set at 1080P!

if anybody has the HDMI screen capture and would like to try to replicate this that would be great.

Very confusing, did you try 2160p?

And with his face so red resolution is possibly not your biggest problem. This rollout is not going very well so far.

[Derb]

Can't test that yet.

Do you have the timestamp from that Mad Max shot?

Also, i have my player set at 2160p forced.

As I mentioned before the only hidden features are with Dynamic, Standard & Movie. It's entirely possible all 3 have some DNR applied. User setting, nope.

[Oliver K]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Okay...so where's our equivalent £70 early bird discount for the UK one? £429 is technically taking the piss!

Figuring in import duties and VAT which don't figure into the US price - something people forget again and again - the Samsung would cost about 550$ in the UK coming from its reduced 399$ price which at todays exchange rate would come out to about £385. If you add in the free copy of The Martian that isn't too bad and only about 5% off the reduced US price.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by Derb

Can't test that yet.

Do you have the timestamp from that Mad Max shot?

Also, i have my player set at 2160p forced.

As I mentioned before the only hidden features are with Dynamic, Standard & Movie. It's entirely possible all 3 have some DNR applied. User setting, nope.

the time stamp is 48:16

im using the user setting.

upscaling your 1080P content will have a similar effect of "smearing". my oppo does the same thing so ive always kept 4k upscaling off of that also.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by Oliver K

Very confusing, did you try 2160p?

And with his face so red resolution is possibly not your biggest problem. This rollout is not going very well so far.

dont worry about the color, zooming in always changes the saturation.

and yes resolution is a bigger problem, because colors can be adjusted but resolution cant. having the player output 4k is "proper" but when its not doing its job properly that is a problem.

panasonic and oppo cant release their players soon enough.

[vincentric]

Originally Posted by ray0414

So im finding some issues with how this player outputs "4k". Some people have discussed possible DNR on these discs. But the problem might be the player itself.

With the mad max disc, heres an upclose facial shot. 1 picture is with the resolution set to "auto", which is defaulting to 4k since it is a 4k disc.

the 2nd picture is with changing the resolution on the player to "1080P".

anyone else see some major differences with the texture of his face and the sharpness of his eyes? there is more detail with the player set at 1080P!

[Show spoiler]

if anybody has the HDMI screen capture and would like to try to replicate this that would be great.

Am not having that problem on my end.

When I switch the player from auto to 1080p, the picture becomes blurrier and the blacks get crushed, resulting in a less detailed, darker and more saturated image. It definitely looks a lot better at auto on my end.

The only thing I can think of that's causing the issue for you is that you may have snapped the comparison at a different frame? There's some subtle camera movement within that same second of the scene you compared that can cause it to look sharper one frame and then blurrier in the next.

[joebp415]

Hi everyone...just ordered mine 2 days ago from hhgregg..suppose to get it tomorrow...After reading all the problems makes me think I should have waited..well will see when I get it..im not tech savy like a lot of you guys on here...may need your help...have the Sony xbr55x850c

[James Freeman]

Originally Posted by ray0414

So im finding some issues with how this player outputs "4k". Some people have discussed possible DNR on these discs. But the problem might be the player itself.

With the mad max disc, heres an upclose facial shot. 1 picture is with the resolution set to "auto", which is defaulting to 4k since it is a 4k disc.

the 2nd picture is with changing the resolution on the player to "1080P".

anyone else see some major differences with the texture of his face and the sharpness of his eyes? there is more detail with the player set at 1080P!

It appears that the player Sharpens the crap out of the downscaled image... very peculiar.

If you take pictures with a camera close to the screen, make sure you use a tripod with 3 second delay on the camera so that the tripod/camera stops shaking once you press the button.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by James Freeman

It appears that the player Sharpens the crap out of the downscaled image... very peculiar.

If you take pictures with a camera close to the screen, make sure you use a tripod with 3 second delay on the camera so that the tripod/camera stops shaking once you press the button.

Actually the blu ray is much sharper with this scene. If you compare the "blurry " 4k image to the Super detailed 1080p blu ray version you'd probably laugh this entire format off. It's not that bad every seen but I've noticed it here and there

Using a camera with a touch screen button eliminates the camera shake most of the time.

[James Freeman]

Originally Posted by ray0414

Actually the blu ray is much sharper with this scene. If you compare the "blurry " 4k image to the Super detailed 1080p blu ray version you'd probably laugh this entire format off. It's not that bad every seen but I've noticed it here and there

Using a camera with a touch screen button eliminates the camera shake most of the time.

vincentric not having the problem you described.
Can you try this again without moving the place of the camera (on a table with a couple of books or a tripod) and with timed delay?

[Adrian Wright]

I have ordered Fury Road though this is yet to arrive so I cannot comment on Rays issue here. In total, I have purchased 19 Movies, 14 of which I have and 5 to be delivered.

I did watch The Last Witch Hunter last night and was very, very impressed with the Picture. The movie itself leaves a lot to be desired but so far, no issues with the player at all.

I imported mine into the UK and can confirm that Netlix works fine, along with ITV Player and 4 On Demand so all good from me

[mikesncc1701]

I haven't had a problem with Fury Road outside of the digital noise in a few scenes which is inherent to the transfer. I'm set to RGB enhanced, forced 2160p, Deep Color auto, and Dynamic picture, but then again, my monitor isn't HDR supported (which might have something to do with it) but I've compared Sicario, Fury Road, and The Martian and have been amazed by the improvement and haven't had any playback issues on other discs (other than the brief signal interruption on one DVD). That picture of blurred Tom Hardy is unsettling though. Glad I didn't encounter that.

[Adam_ME]

Originally Posted by ray0414

So im finding some issues with how this player outputs "4k". Some people have discussed possible DNR on these discs. But the problem might be the player itself.

With the mad max disc, heres an upclose facial shot. 1 picture is with the resolution set to "auto", which is defaulting to 4k since it is a 4k disc.

the 2nd picture is with changing the resolution on the player to "1080P".

anyone else see some major differences with the texture of his face and the sharpness of his eyes? there is more detail with the player set at 1080P!

if anybody has the HDMI screen capture and would like to try to replicate this that would be great.

I tested it last night and didn't have that problem at all. Not sure what's going on with your disc or player(or TV).

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Oliver K

Figuring in import duties and VAT which don't figure into the US price - something people forget again and again - the Samsung would cost about 550$ in the UK coming from its reduced 399$ price which at todays exchange rate would come out to about £385. If you add in the free copy of The Martian that isn't too bad and only about 5% off the reduced US price.

13% duty with 20% VAT on top I make to be about £380, yep, but that's STILL £50 over the odds (if I don't like the free movie that much does it still count? ) and while that might be a drop in the ocean for some people, it's sure as hell not for me.

£399 with the movie would've been the best I could've hoped for, but as it is they're trying to squeeze every penny from the UK consumers that they can. Panasonic's machine is FAR meatier in terms of build & connections and comes with two movies for just £170 extra, so either Panasonic are lowballing their price or Samsung really are taking the piss. Either way, Samsung doesn't come out of it smelling of roses.

[psicon]

Same scene set to 1080, 2160 and auto.