Samsung 4K UHD Blu-ray Player UBD-K8500

[eddievanhalen]

Last night I spent some time ''playing'' with the Samsung player and The Martian UHD BD, known to have some issues with posterization. I had set the HDMI color format to Auto, with component 4:4:4 posterization was clearly visible, but then changed to Standard RGB and surprise, posterization was gone. It may be the way my Philips 4K T.V. set handles each video format, or how the Samsung player converts video for a non-HDR set, doing it differently for component and RGB.

[movielover1069]

Originally Posted by eddievanhalen

Last night I spent some time ''playing'' with the Samsung player and The Martian UHD BD, known to have some issues with posterization. I had set the HDMI color format to Auto, with component 4:4:4 posterization was clearly visible, but then changed to Standard RGB and surprise, posterization was gone. It may be the way my Philips 4K T.V. set handles each video format, or how the Samsung player converts video for a non-HDR set, doing it differently for component and RGB.

Excuse my ignorance but what is posterization? I've never heard that term before.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by movielover1069

Excuse my ignorance but what is posterization? I've never heard that term before.

It's the same thing as banding. Not enough pixel depth to make smooth transitions between shades of color.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by eddievanhalen

Last night I spent some time ''playing'' with the Samsung player and The Martian UHD BD, known to have some issues with posterization. I had set the HDMI color format to Auto, with component 4:4:4 posterization was clearly visible, but then changed to Standard RGB and surprise, posterization was gone. It may be the way my Philips 4K T.V. set handles each video format, or how the Samsung player converts video for a non-HDR set, doing it differently for component and RGB.

you have deep color set to OFF right?

[eddievanhalen]

Originally Posted by ray0414

you have deep color set to OFF right?

Nope. Why, should I even on a non-HDR set?

[movielover1069]

Maybe it's just me, but I still think that the Blu-ray produces much better PQ than the actual 4K UltraHD disc.

[Danny80916]

Has any one watched pride and prejudice with zombies in uhd my sound is way out of sync

[kobeson]

This is hard to keep up with, so many posts!

So what is the verdict on the player solely as a UHD BRD player? What are the major pros and cons?

I have a new 4K TV, new AVR and all I need is a UHD BRD player... can't decide if I should hold off for another brand or not. Not too keen on Panasonic's price, and don't need all it's features. I just want something that plays UHD BRD's.

[RockyIII]

Can anyone tell me how to get Netflix and Amazon to stream in DD+ when using the player's apps?

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Can anyone tell me how to get Netflix and Amazon to stream in DD+ when using the player's apps?

What is your receiver showing it's decoding now?

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

What is your receiver showing it's decoding now?

Just DS (Dolby Surround)

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I577 using Tapatalk

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Just DS (Dolby Surround)

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I577 using Tapatalk

Dolby Surround is an upmixer. What does it say when you hit the receiver's info button? Multichannel + Dolby Surround? Dolby Digital + Dolby Surround?

That is important to diagnose the problem, if there is one.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Dolby Surround is an upmixer. What does it say when you hit the receiver's info button? Multichannel + Dolby Surround? Dolby Digital + Dolby Surround?

That is important to diagnose the problem, if there is one.

It only gives me the standard options of:
Stereo
MultiChannel Stereo
Mono
Virtual
To which I can either add or not add Dolby Surround

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

It only gives me the standard options of:
Stereo
MultiChannel Stereo
Mono
Virtual
To which I can either add or not add Dolby Surround

It looks like the Samsung is set to its (inaccurate) default of PCM (regular PCM or converted to PCM) audio output rather than native bitstreaming. Look at your HDMI audio setup menu for the player and change it.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

It looks like the Samsung is set to its (inaccurate) default of PCM (regular PCM or converted to PCM) audio output rather than native bitstreaming. Look at your HDMI audio setup menu for the player and change it.

First of all, I thought that PCM or Bitstreaming only affected bluray and DVD sources, not streaming content. Second of all, I always keep the player on bitstream unprocessed for dolby atmos blurays

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

First of all, I thought that PCM or Bitstreaming only affected bluray and DVD sources, not streaming content. Second of all, I always keep the player on bitstream unprocessed for dolby atmos blurays

That setting affects streaming audio as well. However, not all streamed files are encoded with Dolby Digital Plus audio. That may be why you aren't seeing Dolby Digital Plus.

However, it looks like you hit the Movie button (that brings up a list of upmixers) rather than the info button. The info button will tell you what audio codec the receiver is seeing and any upmixer applied to said codec.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

That setting affects streaming audio as well. However, not all streamed files are encoded with Dolby Digital Plus audio. That may be why you aren't seeing Dolby Digital Plus.

However, it looks like you hit the Movie button (that brings up a list of upmixers) rather than the info button. The info button will tell you what audio codec the receiver is seeing and any upmixer applied to said codec.

I am watching Daredevil 2 from 3 different sources: Samsung, Roku, Vizio.
Both the Roku and Vizio are streaming in DD+. The Samsung is the only one that is not.
Is it due to the fact that I have the Samsung on dual connection perhaps? What I mean is that I have the Samsung Main HDMI going into the Vizio tv and the Audio HDMI going into the receiver Bluray HDMI

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

I am watching Daredevil 2 from 3 different sources: Samsung, Roku, Vizio.
Both the Roku and Vizio are streaming in DD+. The Samsung is the only one that is not.
Is it due to the fact that I have the Samsung on dual connection perhaps? What I mean is that I have the Samsung Main HDMI going into the Vizio tv and the Audio HDMI going into the receiver Bluray HDMI

If your HDMI 2 port is still set at unprocessed bitstream then it means the app in the Samsung player has not been updated.

They've updated the Amazon app, but pretty much nothing else. That will be later this summer.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

If your HDMI 2 port is still set at unprocessed bitstream then it means the app in the Samsung player has not been updated.

They've updated the Amazon app, but pretty much nothing else. That will be later this summer.

I might have to try to temporarily connect with just one singler HDMI cable going from the player's MAIN to the Denon's "bluray" HDMI port and see if I still get the same result...I owned the Samsung 6500 and 7500 prior to this UHD player and from what I recall I was streaming in DD+ just fine with single HDMI connection

[dvdmike]

I take it there is no region free BD mod for this player