2019 TV Shootout Evaluation event will be in NYC, June 12th

[elwaylite]

At least you acknowledge OLED owners are superior!

All in good fun.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Sony BWM-X300.

I’m hoping that for your next shootout, on the layout with the consumer TVs you'll have the same reference monitor as your showroom….. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...d#post16099557

As more and more shops are using it to grade HDR/WCG content -

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

calibrating an HX310 – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post15675510


with a Colorimetry Research CR-300 Spectral Radiometer

And due to its features, Sony is promoting it at professional shows like IBC and the last HPA Tech Retreat as the new gold standard.

[LordoftheRings]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dck...ature=youtu.be

[rech750452]

Same as last yr. Quite disappointing. Sony OLED, LG OLED, Sony LED then Samsung it seems.

[PaulGo]

Sony sweeps all categories with LG tying a few.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dck...ature=youtu.be

~ Bob, I don’t think the BBC production ever revealed the location of this, pictured at ~ 7 hour2min27sec mark of Robert's shootout -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dckeYOaQYs#t=7h02m27s

it’s in the same archipelago as this atoll - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...oa#post2108887

Do you know of it?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by rech750452

Same as last yr.

all the TVs are close
and depending on one's desires, you can't go wrong with any of them

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

At least you acknowledge OLED owners are superior!

All in good fun.

And if Robert didn't, he'd get run out of technotown!

[Jay Mammoth]

Knew OLED would win.

[gkolb]

Originally Posted by rech750452

Same as last yr. Quite disappointing. Sony OLED, LG OLED, Sony LED then Samsung it seems.

I’m sure I’m not alone in wondering how the Panny OLED would have fared if it was available in USA? Guess it would have been in top 3 with the Sony and LG ones.

Did the streaming content stay on for the 8K demo? That BMD Sony model should likely best the Z9D on 4K HDR content, as well as showcase 8K content (but the demo material will be showcase worthy anyway. )

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by gkolb

I’m sure I’m not alone in wondering how the Panny OLED would have fared if it was available in USA? Guess it would have been in top 3 with the Sony and LG ones.

perhaps Teoh will do a shootout across the pond and include it?
TG:M is in post production now and the Panny OLED is one of the client monitors

[JimShaw]

Originally Posted by gkolb

I’m sure I’m not alone in wondering how the Panny OLED would have fared if it was available in USA? Guess it would have been in top 3 with the Sony and LG ones.

Did the streaming content stay on for the 8K demo? That BMD Sony model should likely best the Z9D on 4K HDR content, as well as showcase 8K content (but the demo material will be showcase worthy anyway. )

Robert mentioned tomorrow (9:30 NY time) they will be discussing 8K models.

That one I'm really interested in (the Z9G)

[jibucha]

question - anyone know if the 8K (panel?) is also being presented live (also?)

Originally Posted by JimShaw

Robert mentioned tomorrow (9:30 NY time) they will be discussing 8K models.

That one I'm really interested in (the Z9G)

[JimShaw]

Originally Posted by jibucha

question - anyone know if the 8K (panel?) is also being presented live (also?)

Not for the Shootout. That's over

But I hope to see something tomorrow

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

~ Bob, I don’t think the BBC production ever revealed the location of this, pictured at ~ 7 hour2min27sec mark of Robert's shootout -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dckeYOaQYs#t=7h02m27s

it’s in the same archipelago as this atoll - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...oa#post2108887

Do you know of it?

Javits Center in NYC.

You mean the underwater scenes; shark country.
You know more than I do Penton.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

You mean the underwater scenes; shark country.
You know more than I do Penton.

Well I know you love being on the water – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...t#post15346638
, as do I,….I just assumed you dove too. Anyway, I won’t reveal the location just yet in case there are any divers out there who would like to give it a shot.

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by rech750452

Same as last yr. Quite disappointing. Sony OLED, LG OLED, Sony LED then Samsung it seems.

Originally Posted by PaulGo

Sony sweeps all categories with LG tying a few.

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

all the TVs are close
and depending on one's desires, you can't go wrong with any of them

I was there (at the afternoon session). All the sets were very, very close (in HDR). On the test patterns, some sets did better on some, other tests did better on others. On movie footage, with the exception of the star field in 2001, in which I thought the Sony OLED looked better, the sets were remarkably close, but again, some sets looked better on some scenes and some sets looked better on other scenes.

(When they ran the black and white test patterns in SDR, all the sets looked crappy.)

I didn't bother to vote because there was no consistent superiority of one set over another in any given category, IMO.

The Samsung sometimes excelled on flesh tones. I also thought it looked better than the Sony on that scene from The Revenant when they're walking in the streams. The streams were clear with white in the background on the Samsung, but they were slightly green on the Sony. But in all other respects, I personally preferred the Sony OLED, but by a very small margin.

Unlike past years, where some of the sets showed clear problems on some tests and images, the sets were so close together that I'm not sure there's a purpose to the shootout anymore until we get to a comparison of 8K sets.

But I do thank Robert for hosting it - it was quite enlightening and I thought the session was especially well run this year as it stayed on point and pretty much on schedule and didn't devolve into a bunch of side conversations.

[Robert Zohn]

Originally Posted by ray0414

1 of the expert judges noticed at halftime that the Samsung was on the wrong settings. was using the "native" color space which is not the calibrated custom space. then twice he said "how the hell did that even happen".

Nothing like that happened in anyway whatsoever.

What happened is the Samsung Q90R would switch (on its own) to the PC mode when we switched from Kaleidescape to the Panasonic UB9000. It was checked and caught before any presentations were run and in no way was anything done incorrectly with the calibration. In fact, the calibration was perfectly done by Kevin Miller a long term consultant to Samsung on picture quality and top professional calibrator. Kevin is also ISF Level lll instructor.

No other TV switched modes and at no time was any demo done in the wrong mode and to be 100% clear, Samsung's Q90R calibration was calibrated to the best of its ability by one of the world's top calibrators.

[JimShaw]

Is there a live feed today? So far, I have not been able to find it.

I so wanted to hear/see the discussion of 8K.




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[Ant1010]

Damn hope I didn't make a mistake choosing the C9 over the A9G. Seems like I might have according to this shootout