4K Movies Releases

[Brightstar]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

You know, it’s becoming really difficult for me to concentrate with all the recent girly photos on this page. If ‘Canada’ posts something, I may become speechless.

To quickly answer your query, possible but EXPENSIVE….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...er#post5749061

Anthony is well qualified to elaborate further.

LoL shes a woman not a girl

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by joliefan

LoL shes a woman not a girl

Most definitely ….and I admire your taste but you know, there are priorities in life ….

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...tines-Day.html

[Penton-Man]

Not too long ago, with regards to 4K delivery into the home, people were debating *if*…. now they’re discussing *when* -

http://advanced-television.com/2013/...-game-changer/

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Penton Man, do not rule out getting another pet. Of course you will be raw and feeling bad right now, but animals have a calming, relaxing influence and given the right care (you sound like an ideal pet owner given your obvious affection for your dog) the mutual benefits are worth it...

Best wishes.

We’ve submitted a request to adopt this pair, Isaac and Isabelle (although I think it’s a long shot given the widespread interest....now national ) but if, by chance, it all does come to fruition for us, I’ll post an update with pics of course.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3032619/#51281673

[pagemaster]

4K will do well for the very large screens, however I still think cinemas will also need to do the advertising so that consumer really find a reason to care for 4K.

http://www.3dfocus.co.uk/3d-news-2/3...hbo-boss/12608

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

We’ve submitted a request to adopt this pair, Isaac and Isabelle (although I think it’s a long shot given the widespread interest....now national ) but if, by chance, it all does come to fruition for us, I’ll post an update with pics of course.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3032619/#51281673

Good luck, it aches how much I miss my pet.

[Canada]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

You know, it’s becoming really difficult for me to concentrate with all the recent girly photos on this page. If ‘Canada’ posts something, I may become speechless.

To quickly answer your query, possible but EXPENSIVE….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...er#post5749061

Anthony is well qualified to elaborate further.

Sorry, Penton-Man, if I have left you speechless. I would love to see how the IMAX scenes in The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises, Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol and Star Trek: Forward into Darkness look in 4K.

[Livelong420]

As Takei- "Oh my"
Who are they?

I believe I saw the Dark Knight on an IMAX print. Higher res than 4K, no?

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Canada

Sorry, Penton-Man, if I have left you speechless. I would love to see how the IMAX scenes in The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises, Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol and Star Trek: Forward into Darkness look in 4K.

IMAX scenes are 70mm bro.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Livelong420

As Takei- "Oh my"
Who are they?

I believe I saw the Dark Knight on an IMAX print. Higher res than 4K, no?

The one the left looks like Selena Gomez.

I would "take" them all though.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by pagemaster

4K will do well for the very large screens, however I still think cinemas will also need to do the advertising so that consumer really find a reason to care for 4K.

http://www.3dfocus.co.uk/3d-news-2/3...hbo-boss/12608

Dang, I didn’t know about the similarity, i.e. the HBO c.t.o. is an older look-alike for Rob (Hummel)

Jeffrey Katzenberg Answers Rob Hummel on 2D-3D Conversion - YouTube

Jeffrey Katzenberg Answers Rob Hummel on 2D-3D Conversion - YouTube

b.t.w., Rob doesn’t retire. He just moves on to other companies. In fact, it’s hard to find a company which Rob hasn’t been an employee of (Sony, WB, Techicolor, etc.) currently here with bio…. http://www.group47.com/site/index.ph...-47/rob-hummel

Anyway, to the gist of the link in your post, it seems to me that the author of the article is flat-out disagreeing with Mr. Zitter’s assessment of consumer 4K adoption, to which I concur with the author/blogger….at least in the long term, given enough time. So what’s the problem...other than the blogger’s poor spelling?

First of all, as I addressed before, with relation to spatial resolution, it’s not the size (as the HBO c.t.o. thinks) it’s the screen-to-eye viewing distance which is important; otherwise, these displays could never be marketed, esp. to professionals - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ze#post6986088

Nor, for that matter, even these smaller displays - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...us#post7300923

The technological merits of current 4K displays completely aside, for the time being, I see the adoption of 4K tv in the home being largely dependent upon how robustly it is marketed (like 1080p was to 720p displays) and phased in by the consumer electronics industry and the 4K media providers. Now, what will provide a big impetus or push for mainstream usage, or ubiquity, will be when Joe6Pack can clearly notice dramatic advantage of 4K displays (of any size) from well beyond a 2PH viewing distance. That should come when increased color bit depth, HDR and HFR are added to the 4K recipe. We’ve already discussed the former (color) on previous pages here.

As to the middle factor, that’s quite a complex subject which I would have to postpone discussing for another day when I have much more time. Suffice to say that HDR is on the far horizon but, is of great significance since current displays come nowhere near to that of approaching the dynamic range of the human visual system, so HDR will not be on the order of a marginal change, but rather, a marked, almost revolutionary change to improvement of the viewing experience…..once the scientists/engineers can get it *to work*. But they are working on it, esp. those from Dolby…
http://conferences.smpte.org/content.../1.17.abstract
http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=2077451.2077484

As for the last factor (HFR), or essentially increasing the temporal resolution, the industry already has the capable cameras. And producing 4K HFR capable displays won’t be a huge hurdle, more like the next small obstacle; however, the big hole is the distribution chain between the camera and the display. Intelligent minds at Sony and Panasonic are working on that production infrastructure as we speak.

But the bottom line is that they’ll come a day that even the most skeptical of 4K critics, like apparently Mr. Zitter, will look back upon the introduction and sales of initial consumer 4K tv’s as being, at the very least, a necessary prerequisite stepping stone in the progression towards a more optimal home-viewing experience with digital displays.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Good luck, it aches how much I miss my pet.

Animals are very special . There’s a reason why this was the top rated commercial at this year’s Super Bowl….
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...-nose/1889693/

- it wasn’t just because of Stevie’s great voice singing that classic song ‘Landslide’.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Canada

Sorry, Penton-Man, if I have left you speechless...

You’re killin me! Between you and the local spring breakers at the beach, the past week or so has been difficult for me to concentrate.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by saprano

The one the left looks like Selena Gomez.

I would "take" them all though.

All you need to know…http://on.aol.com/video/6-amazing-fa...kers-517719649

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

All you need to know…http://on.aol.com/video/6-amazing-fa...kers-517719649

Oh, man. Thanks for that video. I need to see that movie now.

When it gets warm over here in NY that's when the trouble starts. Hopefully some new big 4K news will be announced to keep me focused. lol.

[Canada]

Originally Posted by saprano

IMAX scenes are 70mm bro.

I know, but what is the resolution of 70mm film.

35mm is higher than what a 4K TV can produce

S16 2058 × 1237 pixels
S35 4153 × 3112 pixels
65 8746 × 3835 pixels

Another disadvantage is the much lower resolution of digital IMAX compared to traditional IMAX film, which is estimated to be up to 12,000 × 8,700 pixels with at least 6,120 × 4,500 minimum discernible pixels (27 megapixels).

[Canada]

Originally Posted by Canada

Sorry, Penton-Man, if I have left you speechless. I would love to see how the IMAX scenes in The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises, Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol and Star Trek: Forward into Darkness look in 4K.

4K (3,840 × 2,160) Resolution. I want to see how those IMAX scenes will look in 3,840 x 2,1600 as opposed to the 1,920 x 1,080 that I see those IMAX scenes in now in a home setting.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Canada

4K (3,840 × 2,160) Resolution. I want to see how those IMAX scenes will look in 3,840 x 2,1600 as opposed to the 1,920 x 1,080 that I see those IMAX scenes in now in a home setting.

I originally thought that this is what you ment.

I too would like to see 70mm films downscaled to 4K resolution. TDKR IMAX scenes on bluray are some of the best PQ i've seen on BD. The quality is so good i wonder how a 4K version can improve upon that.

EDIT- That Richard Roeper review of Spring Breakers in your sig convinced me even more i need to see that movie. I've seen the title before, but i thought it was another generic teen movie. Beautiful girls+James Franco as a gangster???? Will there be a 4K version of this, penton? Haha.

[pagemaster]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Dang, I didn’t know about the similarity, i.e. the HBO c.t.o. is an older look-alike for Rob (Hummel)

Jeffrey Katzenberg Answers Rob Hummel on 2D-3D Conversion - YouTube

b.t.w., Rob doesn’t retire. He just moves on to other companies. In fact, it’s hard to find a company which Rob hasn’t been an employee of (Sony, WB, Techicolor, etc.) currently here with bio…. http://www.group47.com/site/index.ph...-47/rob-hummel

Anyway, to the gist of the link in your post, it seems to me that the author of the article is flat-out disagreeing with Mr. Zitter’s assessment of consumer 4K adoption, to which I concur with the author/blogger….at least in the long term, given enough time. So what’s the problem...other than the blogger’s poor spelling?

First of all, as I addressed before, with relation to spatial resolution, it’s not the size (as the HBO c.t.o. thinks) it’s the screen-to-eye viewing distance which is important; otherwise, these displays could never be marketed, esp. to professionals - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ze#post6986088

Nor, for that matter, even these smaller displays - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...us#post7300923

The technological merits of current 4K displays completely aside, for the time being, I see the adoption of 4K tv in the home being largely dependent upon how robustly it is marketed (like 1080p was to 720p displays) and phased in by the consumer electronics industry and the 4K media providers. Now, what will provide a big impetus or push for mainstream usage, or ubiquity, will be when Joe6Pack can clearly notice dramatic advantage of 4K displays (of any size) from well beyond a 2PH viewing distance. That should come when increased color bit depth, HDR and HFR are added to the 4K recipe. We’ve already discussed the former (color) on previous pages here.

As to the middle factor, that’s quite a complex subject which I would have to postpone discussing for another day when I have much more time. Suffice to say that HDR is on the far horizon but, is of great significance since current displays come nowhere near to that of approaching the dynamic range of the human visual system, so HDR will not be on the order of a marginal change, but rather, a marked, almost revolutionary change to improvement of the viewing experience…..once the scientists/engineers can get it *to work*. But they are working on it, esp. those from Dolby…
http://conferences.smpte.org/content.../1.17.abstract
http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=2077451.2077484

As for the last factor (HFR), or essentially increasing the temporal resolution, the industry already has the capable cameras. And producing 4K HFR capable displays won’t be a huge hurdle, more like the next small obstacle; however, the big hole is the distribution chain between the camera and the display. Intelligent minds at Sony and Panasonic are working on that production infrastructure as we speak.

But the bottom line is that they’ll come a day that even the most skeptical of 4K critics, like apparently Mr. Zitter, will look back upon the introduction and sales of initial consumer 4K tv’s as being, at the very least, a necessary prerequisite stepping stone in the progression towards a more optimal home-viewing experience with digital displays.

4K will make into home cinemas for the larger 70"+ screens, whether it will be successful depends on the studios willingness to promote it via cinemas, right now we have some 4K content in the theatre that can play 4K, but I really do not see the studios and chains marketing it, this leads me to believe that the average folks will not know or really care about 4K. The average folk do know the difference between 35mm and digital cinema, as the cinemas make the effort to distinguish between the two, as consumers do have the perceived idea that when they are walking into a D-cinema that they are seeing a superior product.

As for HFR, we have had high frame rate before and it really is not all that new, it can be done in 35mm and 70mm but it never took off, The Hobbit is a one off HFR feature IMO.....yes HFR will get some traction when James Cameron's Avatar 2 comes out to theatres, but after that it won't be much of thing.

[Canada]

Originally Posted by saprano

I originally thought that this is what you ment.

I too would like to see 70mm films downscaled to 4K resolution. TDKR IMAX scenes on bluray are some of the best PQ i've seen on BD. The quality is so good i wonder how a 4K version can improve upon that.

EDIT- That Richard Roeper review of Spring Breakers in your sig convinced me even more i need to see that movie. I've seen the title before, but i thought it was another generic teen movie. Beautiful girls+James Franco as a gangster???? Will there be a 4K version of this, penton? Haha.

All good things come to those who wait.