2019 TV Shootout Evaluation event will be in NYC, June 12th

[Penton-Man]

I haven’t watched the whole recording of Robert’s shootout, just segments here and there. Is what Chris H. says true? –https://twitter.com/BigJohnnyArcher/...05859950710784

[PaulGo]

Sony Crowned 'King Of TV' In 2019 Value Electronics Shootout

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarc.../#3b14ecd52bb7

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I haven’t watched the whole recording of Robert’s shootout, just segments here and there.

The BVM-HX310 is rated at 1K nits, should we expect consumer displays to be rated higher? Or did I miss something? Sure wish these folks could get together on what target they want to master to.

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

LOL, you and Ken Ross at AVS can't handle anything other than what you own being named the best.

If you watch the HDTV test (ya know, a technical reviewer, not a joke like Whathifi and Flatpanelshd) growing circular pattern, the A9F and the C8 look about the same. The ABL was more aggressive on the A1E and A8F, not true about the A9F and A9G. Same story every year, LG owners say "yeah, well, we saved $300". LOL, OK. This is for best tv, not best budget, videophiles do not care about that, and if you are a penny pincher, don't fret the shootout, simple solution. There is a winner, and everyone else is a loser, deal with it. Same posts by same people EVERY year.

#hurtfeelings
#ifyouarehappywithyourpurchasewhydoyoucare?

I wonder, sounds to me you were better off getting the 77" A9G instead of the 65"?

#ifonlyihadaspareroomleft

[alexanderg823]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

LOL, you and Ken Ross at AVS can't handle anything other than what you own being named the best.

If you watch the HDTV test (ya know, a technical reviewer, not a joke like Whathifi and Flatpanelshd) growing circular pattern, the A9F and the C8 look about the same. The ABL was more aggressive on the A1E and A8F, not true about the A9F and A9G. Same story every year, LG owners say "yeah, well, we saved $300". LOL, OK. This is for best tv, not best budget, videophiles do not care about that, and if you are a penny pincher, don't fret the shootout, simple solution. There is a winner, and everyone else is a loser, deal with it. Same posts by same people EVERY year.

#hurtfeelings
#ifyouarehappywithyourpurchasewhydoyoucare?

If one thing, you're consistent - another bizzare if not extremely weird post.

I have a C8, I have no desire to purchase any OLED model this year - I don't really care. These things are stagnated and I don't really care to upgrade until progress has been made. My panel has no tinting and limited banding, and that's worth more for an OLED than any brand badge is from any side.

It's funny that you mention the growing circular pattern to test for ABL because that wouldn't even catch the effect I'm discussing - static images causing the whole screen to dim. I.e. a scoreboard in a sports match causing the whole image to dim. This is awful and a total deal breaker.

You strike me as someone that's too smart to watch something as cavemanish as sports, though.

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/review....&id=1559897568
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1537773683

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

The BVM-HX310 is rated at 1K nits, should we expect consumer displays to be rated higher? Or did I miss something? Sure wish these folks could get together on what target they want to master to.

The HX310 is a step in the right direction in not having to deal with nasty ABL like for the X300, but

if you’re looking to leverage the best HDR possible with your content and you can’t get ahold of a Pulsar, we should be expecting, or should I say, desiring, the reference monitor manufacturers to eventually come out with mastering monitors that can achieve higher brightness (>1000 nits), like the FSI XM310K does/can, listen to the video clip here for additional insight (~ 2 min. timestamp onward) - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post16421410

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I haven’t watched the whole recording of Robert’s shootout, just segments here and there.

Did they mention anytime during the shootout where they fixed the gamma at with these TVs?.....esp. given – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...a#post16420157

and our recent discussion about it with Stacey and other Blu-ray.com membership on previous pages with links to mixed experiences viewing The Long Night by others on colorist forums/message boards. Point being, if all these puppies were at 2.4 gamma, I would have loved seeing them feed the notorious Season 8 episode 3, ‘or it’s not me, it’s you and yours’ - https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2019/4...inematographer

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

LOL, you and Ken Ross at AVS can't handle anything other than what you own being named the best.

If you watch the HDTV test (ya know, a technical reviewer, not a joke like Whathifi and Flatpanelshd) growing circular pattern, the A9F and the C8 look about the same. The ABL was more aggressive on the A1E and A8F, not true about the A9F and A9G. Same story every year, LG owners say "yeah, well, we saved $300". LOL, OK. This is for best tv, not best budget, videophiles do not care about that, and if you are a penny pincher, don't fret the shootout, simple solution. There is a winner, and everyone else is a loser, deal with it. Same posts by same people EVERY year.

#hurtfeelings
#ifyouarehappywithyourpurchasewhydoyoucare?

But here the C9 is not a loser, it's second place.
The A9G is the first place winner.

Either one of those two TVs are the top best two.
The rest from the shootout are . . . distant 3rd and 4th.
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Me I have a big boat bigger than my house, and it cruises real fast.
Funny bunch.
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[ClassicRocker]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Ok folks, here's two more very informative and interesting video's of today's 8K discussion with my very great industry friends.

https://youtu.be/hbH-T2XGG1o

https://youtu.be/tL_98Xlluvk

Thank you again for the pass, Robert! The 8k event was very informative.

[TitusTroy]

I wonder how the Panasonic GZ2000 would have fared if it was in the Shootout...next year should be very interesting...is there going to be another Shootout this year in the Fall/Winter?

[JimShaw]

Originally Posted by TitusTroy

I wonder how the Panasonic GZ2000 would have fared if it was in the Shootout...next year should be very interesting...is there going to be another Shootout this year in the Fall/Winter?

The end of this August there will be an 8K Shootout and why Robert waiting until August: He wanted the LG to be there.

LG 88" 8K OLED
Sony 85" Z9G
Samsung (I don't know which)
I don't know if any other manufacturer will be in it.


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[Robert Zohn]

Thanks Jim. The Samsung will be QN82Q900RB. I'd prefer to use the 85", but the 85" Q900RA is last year's model.

As for other 8K TVs, I'm hoping for Sharp's new 8K 75" dual cell LCD and Sharp's new 80" or 90" 8K FALD TV.

[Gillietalls]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

The BVM-HX310 is rated at 1K nits, should we expect consumer displays to be rated higher? Or did I miss something? Sure wish these folks could get together on what target they want to master to.

The 1000 nits stated is 'full screen brightness.' No consumer display comes close to that right now. I'm sure the 10%-25% area for peak brightness is much higher.

[Gillietalls]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Thanks Jim. The Samsung will be QN82Q900RB. I'd prefer to use the 85", but the 85" Q900RA is last year's model.

As for other 8K TVs, I'm hoping for Sharp's new 8K 75" dual cell LCD and Sharp's new 80" or 90" 8K FALD TV.

Sharp has a dual layer LCD TV coming soon?

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by Gillietalls

Sharp has a dual layer LCD TV coming soon?

The upcoming Apple monitor has dual layer LCD right?

[Robert Zohn]

Yes, Sharp displayed and demonstrated their 75" 8K dual cell LCD TV at CES 2019.

[rech750452]

Kind of curious why these shootouts include Samsung when the results are easily predictable.

[PaulGo]

As always Robert thanks for the Shootout! It provides a unique learning experience.

[Robert Zohn]

Our annual TV Shootout always includes the premium manufacturers flagship TVs.

Samsung won two years in a row and this year the Q90R is an excellent TV that finished very well.

[Gillietalls]

Originally Posted by lgans316

The upcoming Apple monitor has dual layer LCD right?

I could be wrong but I don't think so. Just go old fashioned full array local dimming. I was at least hoping it to be a mini-LED.