Prometheus Review Thread (Spoilers)

[InCali]

Originally Posted by willbfree

Because

[Show spoiler]if he revealed he was alive, the truth would go something like this. "You thought you were selected because of your credentials as scientists. Actually I only needed my robot son. The rest of you are just here so the Board of Directors could accept - with much persuasion I might add - that this is a legitimate use of Weyland Corp funds. A legitimate science mission. It isn't. I'm just here to get more life for myself and find out the meaning of life before I kick off. In other words, you are all window dressing, and frankly, you're all from the bottom of the barrel since I didn't want to risk any really good scientists. Look at that geologist for heaven's sakes - tattoos on his face, a Mohawk, and surly as hell. That should have been a clue about my selection criteria. I heard that my biologist got eaten by a worm that he tried to make friends with. Like I said, bottom of the barrel. I chose you lot because you are all idiots. So, um, yeah, thanks for coming along."

See? Plot "holes" might just have explanations (now or later). I still, however, want to play the role of Mr. Vickers in the prequel and am lobbying to have it made.......and I'm pretty sure there is a Mr. Vickers because, if there wasn't, all of those board of director types would've been alerted to the fact that there was conflict between Weyland and Vickers and that would have been bad for business.....so this whole movie makes no sense at all :roll eyes:

Unless I get to be Mr. Vickers.

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Well, please don't try it like it just because you may want too. I made that mistake with The Phantom Menace, playing the part of fanboy in denial for two years until Clones slapped me hard in the face and screamed, "Stop faking it boy! All of this sucks and you know it!!"

The only thing that irritated me with Prometheus was

[Show spoiler]the biologist. His character was so ineptly handled that it still leaves me scratching my head.

Here you have this guy who studys the process of life for a living, yet wants to run away from the first extraterrestrial mankind has even encountered (and it's friggin dead!). Then, as redlettermedia put it, "when he encounters a sketchy looking space penis later on, he puts his face in it."

What is mind boggling about all of it is how easily these scenes with this character could have been corrected and had the exact same results.

Here's how easy all of this this was to fix:

Geologist (scared): "I like rocks, not dead bodies! I'm outta here!"
Biologist: "Shit, Geologist Guy shouldn't wander off alone. I guess I'll go with him. You people better save me some samples!"

later on...

Geologist (scared): "That looks like a ****ing snake! Stay away from it!"
Biologist: "Are you kidding? This is an alien life form, the first ever discovered alive. We have to take it back to the ship."
Geologist: "Screw that."
Biologist: "Here, hold this specimen box open for me. I'll use this stick and try to pin down the head and then grab it like a snake. Yeah?"
Geologist: "No. ****ing. Way. There is no ****ing way I'm going to help you get that thing."
Biologist: "Hey, who came out here and got lost with you? Who's your pal that's been looking out for you? Me. Come on and do me this one favor."
Geologist: "Fine."

So easy to fix, so mind baffeling that they didn't.

Yea, I tried that with the prequels too, very similar results.

I really wish that they had made a movie novel for this one. A L I E N and ALIENS versions were favorites of mine.

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[Foggy]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

That was great.


I have another question for you guys, which I know has been brought up before but...

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If Mr. Weyland was only along for the ride just to become immortal or discover the meaning of life...why did he have David poison Holloway for?

I missed the reasoning to that one.

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I'm guessing he just wanted to see what would happen if he

[Show spoiler]consumed the goo, whether it was nasty or if it's the key to extended life or immortality

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

[Show spoiler]It was calabrated for male anatomy, not incapable of dealing with female anatomy. It was present for Weyland and Wayland only, and was probably calibrated specifically to him. And Vickers was aware that he was on board. David was talking to Weyland in the hypersleep coffin when Vickers asked David to tell her what he said.

Exactly. Caesarian is in the

[Show spoiler] Medpod's list of programmed procedures. Weyland's stasis chamber was in a room adjacent to Vicker's quarters, which is also the luxury escape pod. The Prometheus is the Flagship of the Weyland Corp.

It is conceivable that Weyland was put in stasis, on board, before Vicker's decided to take the trip. So, while Vicker's knew Weyland was aboard, he did not know she was there. David just didn't mention her presence during his periodic discussions with Weyland.

For details on the Medpod: http://www.weylandindustries.com/health

[Duffy12]

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BTW...

there was only a total 4 people in my 11:20 AM Real3D showing yesterday.

Anybody have the poop on current BO totals please?

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[Foggy]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

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BTW...

there was only a total 4 people in my 11:20 AM Real3D showing yesterday.

Anybody have the poop on current BO totals please?

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Around $140 mill worldwide

[ObiWanShinobi]

Originally Posted by willbfree

Because

[Show spoiler]if he revealed he was alive, the truth would go something like this. "You thought you were selected because of your credentials as scientists. Actually I only needed my robot son. The rest of you are just here so the Board of Directors could accept - with much persuasion I might add - that this is a legitimate use of Weyland Corp funds. A legitimate science mission. It isn't. I'm just here to get more life for myself and find out the meaning of life before I kick off. In other words, you are all window dressing, and frankly, you're all from the bottom of the barrel since I didn't want to risk any really good scientists. Look at that geologist for heaven's sakes - tattoos on his face, a Mohawk, and surly as hell. That should have been a clue about my selection criteria. I heard that my biologist got eaten by a worm that he tried to make friends with. Like I said, bottom of the barrel. I chose you lot because you are all idiots. So, um, yeah, thanks for coming along."

Thats hilarious and when you think of it that way the Prometheus crew and their actions make more sense. Hiring a decent crew was a budget cut apparently.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by Foggy

Around $140 mill worldwide

Actually, over $158 million. http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?pag...prometheus.htm

[SirMontyPython]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

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BTW...

there was only a total 4 people in my 11:20 AM Real3D showing yesterday.

Anybody have the poop on current BO totals please?

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well you did go super early to this show...maybe other people were at work?

[InCali]

Originally Posted by Foggy

Around $140 mill worldwide

155 if you believe box office mojo

[InCali]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

Actually, over $158 million. http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?pag...prometheus.htm

Oops....forgot to check later today...just under 155 on Tuesday.

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by Foggy

Around $140 mill worldwide

I thought that it would have been a whole more than that.

So it's about halfway to breaking even then as $140 was about it's budget.


So...do you guys think that a sequel is worth a try if they decide to do it?

[Show spoiler]It just seems to me that the continuing storyline would be very difficult considering where they were headed as Shaw would be the human involved. Like I said previously, it would make for a great novel, but a filmed movie???

So what are your guys opinions on the doability of a sequel?

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[Monk360]

$65,333,228 domestic / $158,069,945 worldwide (as of Wed)

Should be at $100 million domestic / $200 million worldwide after this weekend, which will place it at the top of the franchise:

Domestic (Unadjusted)
1 Aliens Fox $85,160,248
2 Alien Vs. Predator Fox $80,282,231
3 Alien Fox $78,944,891
4 Prometheus Fox $65,333,228
5 Alien 3 Fox $55,473,545
6 Alien Resurrection Fox $47,795,658
7 Aliens Vs. Predator - Requiem Fox $41,797,066

Worldwide (Unadjusted)
1 Alien Vs. Predator Fox $172.5
2 Alien Resurrection Fox $161.4
3 Alien 3 Fox $159.8
4 Prometheus Fox $158.1
5 Aliens Fox $131.1
6 Aliens Vs. Predator - Requiem Fox $128.9
7 Alien Fox $102.9

Prometheus is currently projected to take $130 million domestic / $300 million worldwide (still has quite a few countries to debut in)

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by SirMontyPython

well you did go super early to this show...maybe other people were at work?

Yea, that was what i was thinking also. I guess school has not ended for the summer yet.

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[raygendreau]

Religious references saturate this film. I'm not sure why this isn't discussed more. The biggest revelation for me is that the

[Show spoiler] Engineers venerate and apparently worship the Xenomorph!

http://dejanno.files.wordpress.com/2...prometheus.jpg

http://media.photobucket.com/image/p...us5/mural2.jpg

The xenomorph mural is above an

[Show spoiler]altar with a green crystal on it. The murals on the ceiling evoke the Sistine Chapel. The mural itself is a crucifixion scene. In some images of the mural, there appears to be a stylized image of the Xenomorph rising into the heavens. Ridley has described the Engineers as Dark Angels. They ritualistically sacrifice themselves, willingly, by drinking from what appears to be a Communion Cup

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[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

Yea, that was what i was thinking also. I guess school has not ended for the summer yet.

This weekend has the potential to be big because of that factor alone. I'd say that this weekend will be the most critical for Prometheus during it's theatrical run.

As for the sequel, I say yes, because it's obvious to me that we only got half a story with this film, which tells me the other half is either already written or at least has all the major details fleshed out. They just need to bring another writer or two in to polish it a little better this time. I had no problem with the open-ended nature of the film, but a small portion of the dialogue and situations needed a little fine tuning.

And if there were any, Ridley needs to let go of any yes men that might have been on the set with him this time, and hire someone that will challenege his decisions.

...and please oh please leave the Space Jesus reference OUT!!

[InCali]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

This weekend has the potential to be big because of that factor alone. I'd say that this weekend will be the most critical for Prometheus during it's theatrical run.

As for the sequel, I say yes, because it's obvious to me that we only got half a story with this film, which tells me the other half is either already written or at least has all the major details fleshed out. They just need to bring another writer or two in to polish it a little better this time. I had no problem with the open-ended nature of the film, but a small portion of the dialogue and situations needed a little fine tuning.

And if there were any, Ridley needs to let go of any yes men that might have been on the set with him this time, and hire someone that will challenege his decisions.

...and please oh please leave the Space Jesus reference OUT!!

Perhaps....there's nothing really strong out there until the Spiderman release.

[MykeHavoc]

I'm surprised so many people assume that Vickers is

[Show spoiler]human

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[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by willbfree

Because

[Show spoiler]if he revealed he was alive, the truth would go something like this. "You thought you were selected because of your credentials as scientists. Actually I only needed my robot son. The rest of you are just here so the Board of Directors could accept - with much persuasion I might add - that this is a legitimate use of Weyland Corp funds. A legitimate science mission. It isn't. I'm just here to get more life for myself and find out the meaning of life before I kick off. In other words, you are all window dressing, and frankly, you're all from the bottom of the barrel since I didn't want to risk any really good scientists. Look at that geologist for heaven's sakes - tattoos on his face, a Mohawk, and surly as hell. That should have been a clue about my selection criteria. I heard that my biologist got eaten by a worm that he tried to make friends with. Like I said, bottom of the barrel. I chose you lot because you are all idiots. So, um, yeah, thanks for coming along."

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

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So what are your guys opinions on the doability of a sequel?
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I didn't stay through the credits, but I saw somewhere on here someone blibbering on about a date appearing at the end of the credits. Do we know for sure he hasn't already filmed it back to back?

If not, then did someone explain what the date was?