Prometheus Review Thread (Spoilers)

[SirMontyPython]

Originally Posted by Monkey_Boy

Even they brung up her running after a c-section! So... I'm not the only one who found that part ridiculous! Good to know. Also, that was exactly how I thought it was going to end! I mean,

[Show spoiler]dude didn't even die in the chair, let alone on the right planet!

Oh well, still grabbing it when it hits BD, and definetly seeing the sequel!

I guess in thinking that way, there are still more than just the one Engineer....

[Monkey_Boy]

Originally Posted by SirMontyPython

I guess in thinking that way, there are still more than just the one Engineer....

Yeah. So, I'm hoping we see the connection in the next one. Although,

[Show spoiler]there would have to be another ship that crash lands the exact same way, only on a different planet, and another squid monster to impregnate another Engineer.

I think that would smack of redundantcy... and not be very awesome at all. Hopefully I'm wrong.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

I don't know why you guys expect more connections to Alien in the next film. Ridley and Damon both said that the story would move further away from Alien in the sequel(s).

And the Engineer & ship in Prometheus is not suppose to be the one the crew of the Nostromo find in Alien. That's on a different moon (LV-426 - the moon in Prometheus is LV-223).

[AndyD]

Watched this yesterday. Not bad but not great.
3 out of 5 from me

[duggie walker]

Saw this again, hoping I'd like it better. Didn't. Just a bunch of scenes with no logic connecting them. Some of this is deliberate and a mistake, imo. Some of it is just down to abysmally bad plotting and character development.

[KarmaNL]

Saw it again yesterday. Liked it a little less than last time in the theatre.

It was lacking in several departments, not really like a Ridley Scott movie even.

[SirMontyPython]

Originally Posted by Aragorn84

I don't know why you guys expect more connections to Alien in the next film. Ridley and Damon both said that the story would move further away from Alien in the sequel(s).

And the Engineer & ship in Prometheus is not suppose to be the one the crew of the Nostromo find in Alien. That's on a different moon (LV-426 - the moon in Prometheus is LV-223).

You never know....there could be even less connections from Alien on the second one, but it could also link some things even closer....just sayin'

[beadelf]

Originally Posted by duggie walker

Saw this again, hoping I'd like it better. Didn't. Just a bunch of scenes with no logic connecting them. Some of this is deliberate and a mistake, imo. Some of it is just down to abysmally bad plotting and character development.

agree

[SirMontyPython]

I'd like to see it one more time before it hits blu-ray, and hopefully I can get it on blu-ray! LOL!

[Lemmy Lugosi]

It's no secret I'm not a Prometheus fan. I'm too much of a fan of the Alien films to accept this as a prequel.

That said, a friend told me yesterday that he'd seen Prometheus, and he loved it. Guess what? He hates the Alien films.

[SirMontyPython]

Originally Posted by Lemmy Lugosi

It's no secret I'm not a Prometheus fan. I'm too much of a fan of the Alien films to accept this as a prequel.

That said, a friend told me yesterday that he'd seen Prometheus, and he loved it. Guess what? He hates the Alien films.

Apples to....apples?























Red or green....pick your flavor!

[Offender_Mullet]

1/5 stars from me. Even if it had zero ties to the Alien mythology it still would've been a mess. The first 20 min. (or whatever) were good, but after the snake creatures attack and a mutated character goes berserk....the movie turns into typical action/thriller shit.

Did a 12 year-old write the script? The thought provoking points you wanted to be interested in were treated so poorly. There's nothing to delve into. Everything is cut-and-dried. I think people were wanting to take more out of the film than what was actually represented and that's sad. Basically what I'm trying to say is: making a mountain out of a molehill. The plot was paper-thin guys.

This script is just as weak as Gladiator's (imo Scott's least-impressive film), but I can see how people got taken-in by the visual spectacle/scope of the movie....like how people thought Gladiator was a masterpiece. Call is Scott fanboyism or what not, I just didn't buy into this sci-fi trip at all. Disappointed.

"He's coming for you Dr. Shaw"

[SirMontyPython]

Originally Posted by Offender_Mullet

1/5 stars from me. Even if it had zero ties to the Alien mythology it still would've been a mess. The first 20 min. (or whatever) were good, but after the snake creatures attack and a mutated character goes berserk....the movie turns into typical action/thriller shit.

Did a 12 year-old write the script? The thought provoking points you wanted to be interested in were treated so poorly. There's nothing to delve into. Everything is cut-and-dried. I think people were wanting to take more out of the film than what was actually represented and that's sad. Basically what I'm trying to say is: making a mountain out of a molehill. The plot was paper-thin guys.

This script is just as weak as Gladiator's (imo Scott's least-impressive film), but I can see how people got taken-in by the visual spectacle/scope of the movie....like how people thought Gladiator was a masterpiece. Call is Scott fanboyism or what not, I just didn't buy into this sci-fi trip at all. Disappointed.

"He's coming for you Dr. Shaw"

Sorry it wasn't your cup of tea....I personally enjoyed it because it had me thinking all the same questions from how many pages back? LOL! There seems to be an agreement that the writing wasn't smooth and all over the place, but with those questions in mind, having already seen the movie, it makes you wonder that much more about the movie....just sayin'...

[duggie walker]

What's so weird to me are the actions of the characters.

Obviously, the Fifield character stands out. First off, he says he's just in it for the money. Then you discover he's a geologist - a geologist who's just in it for the money? Then he doesn't look at a single rock, not interested at all in this alien planet; then he freaks out and runs away. And despite being nothing but an absolute dick to him, he manages to make a friend, who runs away with him. Cue infamous "petting the penis snake" moment.
The result is that we give not a rat's ass when they're killed.

But just as baffling is Idris Elba's captain. A man of staggering nobility, going by his final actions; but also one who doesn't seem to give a toss about the two stranded men in the underground cavern with the life signs running around. Instead he decides to shag Charlize Theron (whose hands seem to be glued behind her back). Well there's a guy we can trust to get us home safely.

Of course, he turns out to be the one who figures out the WMD angle, based on no information whatsoever, and accepts his final fate with hardly a shrug. More laughable however are his two crewmembers who - given the choice of spending two years in a lifepod with Charlize - quite cheerily decide to go with him on the basis of even less information than he has.

And let's not forget that these people have successfully found the source of all humanity on a distant planet. Now maybe I'm a hippy but doesn't this warrant a little more excitement from everyone on board, even the cynics? But they behave as if they've just found a stash of silver cutlery with a metal detector. Noomi Rapace's boyfriend - and let's just say it; they were both crap - is driven to an alcoholic depression by the fact that the aliens aren't alive, for God's sake.

Now imagine if the recently launched Nasa Mars probe discovered a dead alien skeleton. Would the guys and gals of Mission Control see the picture and let out a moan of disappointment because it wasn't alive? No - they'd hardly be able to sleep for about a week. Because it would change everything. And they didn't even have to travel for years in hypersleep.

PROMETHEUS should be used as a teaching aid in film schools. If anybody wonders what bad character development is, here is the perfect example: characters you don't like doing stuff you don't believe.

And in case Lindelof has to carry the whole can, we can't let Ridley Scott off so easily. The film is badly directed, folks. Just look at how he botches the reveal of the Big Head by having foreground action taking place - Rapace and the alien head - at exactly the wrong point. No sense of grandeur or awe, or any sense of how incredible it all is.

Even from an art design perspective, he's well off his game: The creature designs that Scott signed off on are dull, the alien ship sets look like someone's given them a good vacuum before filming started, even the fx are nothing special at all.

Sorry to bring it all up again but seeing it for a second time just re-activated all my anger and disappointment. Fool that I am, I will probably pick up the BD in the vain hope that I might discover the greater purpose in all this that will restore my faith in the man who made not one but two of the greatest sci-fi films of all time. But sadly I doubt it. Given Scott's insistence that Deckard is a replicant, it's beginning to dawn on me that this is a man who knows very little about story and thematics and should stand back from the screenwriting process.

[SirMontyPython]

Originally Posted by duggie walker

What's so weird to me are the actions of the characters.

Obviously, the Fifield character stands out. First off, he says he's just in it for the money. Then you discover he's a geologist - a geologist who's just in it for the money? Then he doesn't look at a single rock, not interested at all in this alien planet; then he freaks out and runs away. And despite being nothing but an absolute dick to him, he manages to make a friend, who runs away with him. Cue infamous "petting the penis snake" moment.
The result is that we give not a rat's ass when they're killed.

But just as baffling is Idris Elba's captain. A man of staggering nobility, going by his final actions; but also one who doesn't seem to give a toss about the two stranded men in the underground cavern with the life signs running around. Instead he decides to shag Charlize Theron (whose hands seem to be glued behind her back). Well there's a guy we can trust to get us home safely.

Of course, he turns out to be the one who figures out the WMD angle, based on no information whatsoever, and accepts his final fate with hardly a shrug. More laughable however are his two crewmembers who - given the choice of spending two years in a lifepod with Charlize - quite cheerily decide to go with him on the basis of even less information than he has.

And let's not forget that these people have successfully found the source of all humanity on a distant planet. Now maybe I'm a hippy but doesn't this warrant a little more excitement from everyone on board, even the cynics? But they behave as if they've just found a stash of silver cutlery with a metal detector. Noomi Rapace's boyfriend - and let's just say it; they were both crap - is driven to an alcoholic depression by the fact that the aliens aren't alive, for God's sake.

Now imagine if the recently launched Nasa Mars probe discovered a dead alien skeleton. Would the guys and gals of Mission Control see the picture and let out a moan of disappointment because it wasn't alive? No - they'd hardly be able to sleep for about a week. Because it would change everything. And they didn't even have to travel for years in hypersleep.

PROMETHEUS should be used as a teaching aid in film schools. If anybody wonders what bad character development is, here is the perfect example: characters you don't like doing stuff you don't believe.

And in case Lindelof has to carry the whole can, we can't let Ridley Scott off so easily. The film is badly directed, folks. Just look at how he botches the reveal of the Big Head by having foreground action taking place - Rapace and the alien head - at exactly the wrong point. No sense of grandeur or awe, or any sense of how incredible it all is.

Even from an art design perspective, he's well off his game: The creature designs that Scott signed off on are dull, the alien ship sets look like someone's given them a good vacuum before filming started, even the fx are nothing special at all.

Sorry to bring it all up again but seeing it for a second time just re-activated all my anger and disappointment. Fool that I am, I will probably pick up the BD in the vain hope that I might discover the greater purpose in all this that will restore my faith in the man who made not one but two of the greatest sci-fi films of all time. But sadly I doubt it. Given Scott's insistence that Deckard is a replicant, it's beginning to dawn on me that this is a man who knows very little about story and thematics and should stand back from the screenwriting process.

I'm so glad I didn't have to click on spoiler tags to read the entire thing! Thanks for making me that much lazier!

[SirMontyPython]

Originally Posted by duggie walker

What's so weird to me are the actions of the characters.

Obviously, the Fifield character stands out. First off, he says he's just in it for the money. Then you discover he's a geologist - a geologist who's just in it for the money? Then he doesn't look at a single rock, not interested at all in this alien planet; then he freaks out and runs away. And despite being nothing but an absolute dick to him, he manages to make a friend, who runs away with him. Cue infamous "petting the penis snake" moment.
The result is that we give not a rat's ass when they're killed.

But just as baffling is Idris Elba's captain. A man of staggering nobility, going by his final actions; but also one who doesn't seem to give a toss about the two stranded men in the underground cavern with the life signs running around. Instead he decides to shag Charlize Theron (whose hands seem to be glued behind her back). Well there's a guy we can trust to get us home safely.

Of course, he turns out to be the one who figures out the WMD angle, based on no information whatsoever, and accepts his final fate with hardly a shrug. More laughable however are his two crewmembers who - given the choice of spending two years in a lifepod with Charlize - quite cheerily decide to go with him on the basis of even less information than he has.

And let's not forget that these people have successfully found the source of all humanity on a distant planet. Now maybe I'm a hippy but doesn't this warrant a little more excitement from everyone on board, even the cynics? But they behave as if they've just found a stash of silver cutlery with a metal detector. Noomi Rapace's boyfriend - and let's just say it; they were both crap - is driven to an alcoholic depression by the fact that the aliens aren't alive, for God's sake.

Now imagine if the recently launched Nasa Mars probe discovered a dead alien skeleton. Would the guys and gals of Mission Control see the picture and let out a moan of disappointment because it wasn't alive? No - they'd hardly be able to sleep for about a week. Because it would change everything. And they didn't even have to travel for years in hypersleep.

PROMETHEUS should be used as a teaching aid in film schools. If anybody wonders what bad character development is, here is the perfect example: characters you don't like doing stuff you don't believe.

And in case Lindelof has to carry the whole can, we can't let Ridley Scott off so easily. The film is badly directed, folks. Just look at how he botches the reveal of the Big Head by having foreground action taking place - Rapace and the alien head - at exactly the wrong point. No sense of grandeur or awe, or any sense of how incredible it all is.

Even from an art design perspective, he's well off his game: The creature designs that Scott signed off on are dull, the alien ship sets look like someone's given them a good vacuum before filming started, even the fx are nothing special at all.

Sorry to bring it all up again but seeing it for a second time just re-activated all my anger and disappointment. Fool that I am, I will probably pick up the BD in the vain hope that I might discover the greater purpose in all this that will restore my faith in the man who made not one but two of the greatest sci-fi films of all time. But sadly I doubt it. Given Scott's insistence that Deckard is a replicant, it's beginning to dawn on me that this is a man who knows very little about story and thematics and should stand back from the screenwriting process.

I'm so glad I didn't have to click on spoiler tags to read the entire thing! Thanks for making me that much lazier!

[Offender_Mullet]

Originally Posted by SirMontyPython

Sorry it wasn't your cup of tea....I personally enjoyed it because it had me thinking all the same questions from how many pages back? LOL! There seems to be an agreement that the writing wasn't smooth and all over the place, but with those questions in mind, having already seen the movie, it makes you wonder that much more about the movie....just sayin'...

Don't get me wrong, I was looking forward to this movie, which is why I stopped reading this thread a long time ago (after someone posted the first leaked picture of the Alien - whenever that was).

That being said, the only question about the story anyone should have left in their mind after seeing this is: "Why do the Engineers want to destroy us?" That's literally it. Anything else is just grasping at straws trying to get all philosophical about a movie that doesn't deserve it. The character development was something out of a James Cameron movie - terrible.


"Hey Vickers what's the random high-tech medical bay doing in your office?"

"Oh nothing, just y'know.....in case you get nailed by your crewmate who just happens to get his drink spiked with alien goo because Weyland had other things on his mind other than 'why are were here, what's our purpose?' yada yada yada......and you give birth to a squid that gives way to creating the most dangerous bio weapon of all time.....of all time."

[SirMontyPython]

Originally Posted by Offender_Mullet

Don't get me wrong, I was looking forward to this movie, which is why I stopped reading this thread a long time ago (after someone posted the first leaked picture of the Alien - whenever that was).

That being said, the only question about the story anyone should have left in their mind after seeing this is: "Why do the Engineers want to destroy us?" That's literally it. Anything else is just grasping at straws trying to get all philosophical about a movie that doesn't deserve it. The character development was something out of a James Cameron movie - terrible.


"Hey Vickers what's the random high-tech medical bay doing in your office?"

"Oh nothing, just y'know.....in case you get nailed by your crewmate who just happens to get his drink spiked with alien goo because Weyland had other things on his mind other than 'why are were here, what's our purpose?' yada yada yada......and you give birth to a squid that gives way to creating the most dangerous bio weapon of all time.....of all time."

Maybe the next couple of movies would reveal why? That's the kind of mystery I find curious after watching the movie....why? The why's, the how's, the huh's? Those are all thought provoking in my opinion, and I took it upon me as NOT a prequel to Alien, so I try not to connect anything from Alien to Prometheus.....but like I said before, I'm sure we'll get more answers from movies like Paradise and the 3rd movie....I'm patient like that....

[Lemmy Lugosi]

Originally Posted by SirMontyPython

Maybe the next couple of movies would reveal why? That's the kind of mystery I find curious after watching the movie....why? The why's, the how's, the huh's? Those are all thought provoking in my opinion, and I took it upon me as NOT a prequel to Alien, so I try not to connect anything from Alien to Prometheus.....but like I said before, I'm sure we'll get more answers from movies like Paradise and the 3rd movie....I'm patient like that....

I honestly hope that you're correct, and these next installments negate all the bad feelings from this first film.

But this is Ridley Scott we're talking about here; I have my doubts it'll turn out well. His track record is more "miss" than "hit" with me.

[Duffy12]

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Prometheus Deleted Scenes Screen Caps Revealed!


http://www.prometheus-movie.com/news/320



Particularly like these ones-

[Show spoiler]

Déjà vu?

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