Prometheus Review Thread (Spoilers)

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by csdot

i never said there was anything wrong with it, i was just offering a realistic perspective. i didnt realize i wasnt allowed to post my thoughts.

Huh? Where exactly did I say that?

[csdot]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Huh? Where exactly did I say that?

you responded to my post as if i were attacking your right to imagine the movie to be something its not. that wasnt the case. i was just telling you the truth, whether you want to believe it or not is entirely up to you.

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by menaceuk

Universal concepts fine but Geology and gravity are not the same through out the entire Universe.

Uh, yeah, they are. Gravity has specific rules and works in a very specific manner (except for maybe in the center of a black hole, where what we know about physics begins to break down), and rocks is rocks. We have this thing called the periodic table, you know.

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by csdot

you responded to my post as if i were attacking your right to imagine the movie to be something its not. that wasnt the case. i was just telling you the truth, whether you want to believe it or not is entirely up to you.

No I didn't. You're making an assumption. I had no problem with your opinion, and I still don't.

[menaceuk]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Uh, yeah, they are. Gravity has specific rules and works in a very specific manner (except for maybe in the center of a black hole, where what we know about physics begins to break down), and rocks is rocks. We have this thing called the periodic table, you know.

I hope that was a Joke.

[csdot]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

No I didn't. You're making an assumption. I had no problem with your opinion, and I still don't.

then one would have to wonder why you questioned it. i never said there was anything wrong with conjecture yet you responded saying thats exactly what i did. im not the one making assumptions. let it go man jeez.

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by menaceuk

I hope that was a Joke.

Okay, so how exactly does gravity differ throughout the universe? And since the periodic table has no gaps in it at all, what new atoms are out there that you are aware of?

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by csdot

then one would have to wonder why you questioned it. i never said there was anything wrong with conjecture yet you responded saying thats exactly what i did. im not the one making assumptions. let it go man jeez.

I'm not the one dragging this out, you are. You're the one that piped in and said people were "reading to much into this." I was just having fun talking about my own ideas, and listening to other people's takes on my idea.

I only responded to your post, and never offered any kind of offence (and I still don't). Don't you think it's reasonable that people be able to respond your your statements? I do.

[csdot]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

I'm not the one dragging this out, you are. You're the one that piped in and said people were "reading to much into this." I was just having fun talking about my own ideas, and listening to other people's takes on my idea.

I only responded to your post, and never offered any kind of offence (and I still don't). Don't you think it's reasonable that people be able to respond your your statements? I do.

i apologize for interrupting your conjecture with useful facts. carry on.

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by csdot

i apologize for interrupting your conjecture with useful facts. carry on.

lol

Okay, one of us has to bend on this so it might as well be me. Subject dropped.

[Brightstar]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

If true, then the planet can't be LV-426. The ship the Nostromo finds is very old by Dallas's observations:
"Alien life form. It's been dead a long time. Fossilized...looks like's it's grown out of the chair."

And 37 years isn't hardly long enough for that planet to have gone through all the major geological changes it would have needed to look different between movies. Those strange rock formations seen in Alien look like they have been wind blasted smooth for hundreds (maybe even thousands) of years.

Also, something has to stop people from going back to this world after the Prometheus mission fails, not just ignoring the place then sending truckers to get infected 37 years later.

It was a warning (in ALIEN) not a distress call for help

[menaceuk]

Originally Posted by joliefan

It was a warning (in ALIEN) not a distress call for help

I don't recall it being anything in ALIEN. I recall them getting the signal but I don't remember them saying it was a warning or a Distress call but they were contractual bound to investigate any signal.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

I didn't see On Stranger Tides, so I can't compare it to that. I can compare it to the Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter 3D Trailer if that will help. ALVH has plenty of in your face flying axes and severed bloody heads. Prometheus emphasis is more depth of field than pop out, but there are quick cuts that will have you involuntarily jerking your head back. 3D in the trailer was well balanced, in my opinion. Less CGI and more real sets helps.

Good points regarding the 3D trailer for Prometheus. I was able to see this before Wrath 3D, with previews in 3D including impressive 3D trailers of Avengers 3D and Hobbit 3D, and even MIB3D, but as far as Prometheus, which looks like an awesome movie by the way, the 3D is average based on the trailer alone. It's not strong 3D like Avatar or Hugo 3D, but not as weak as Clash of the Titans 3D either. They really needed to separate the cameras farther apart for a stronger pop to the layers.

Even so, this one looks very promising.

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by joliefan

It was a warning (in ALIEN) not a distress call for help

That doesn't really help things though. Regardless of the nature of the beacon, it is a signal transmitted by an alien intelligence. Unlocking the secrets of that is Nobel Prize winning stuff. I can't imagine the human race (even a corporate element of it) passing up on something so monumental as proof that humans are not alone in the universe.

But I was mainly talking about the inconsistencies in terrain between the movies, and how if this is LV-426, then why are the two planets so different in their geological formation? As far as the SJ being fossilized in Alien, I can dismiss it if necessary, as Dallas isn't doing much more than speaking off of the cuff about something his character probably wasn't an expert in. I can also dismiss the high winds in Alien vs. the partial lack of them in the prequel as seasonal conditions. But the rock formations surrounding the crash site are way different between Prometheus and Alien, and that's what leaves me scratching my head a little.

Scott doesn't really revisit the movie worlds he helps create all that much as he moves from one project to the next, but he is renowned for being 'in the moment' and making artistic choices as such. I can certainly see him dismissing occasional inconsistencies between stories for the sake of bringing his current vision to the screen.

There are a lot of things already in place that suggest this is LV-426, and only a few that bring it into question. I'm curious about it either way.

[greg_achen]

Originally Posted by menaceuk

I don't recall it being anything in ALIEN. I recall them getting the signal but I don't remember them saying it was a warning or a Distress call but they were contractual bound to investigate any signal.

You're wrong. They initially think it is an SOS, but Ripley later decodes it further and thinks it's a warning. She wants to call the crew back and warn them but Ash tells her there is no point because by the time they get to the signal they will know if it is a warning or not.

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by menaceuk

I don't recall it being anything in ALIEN. I recall them getting the signal but I don't remember them saying it was a warning or a Distress call but they were contractual bound to investigate any signal.

Ripley brings it up as she displays her amazing skill at deciphering binary. lol
Ash dissuades her because he wants the monster brought on board.

[raygendreau]

HOT OFF THE PRESSES: James Cameron to direct Prometheus sequel. Scott furious: http://tbreak.com/movies/22841/blog/...metheus-2.html

[Show spoiler]April Fool!

[menaceuk]

Originally Posted by greg_achen

You're wrong. They initially think it is an SOS, but Ripley later decodes it further and thinks it's a warning. She wants to call the crew back and warn them but Ash tells her there is no point because by the time they get to the signal they will know if it is a warning or not.

Ahh, Yeah. Totally remember it now. My Bad

[TheWildWhelk]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau
If true, then the planet can't be LV-426. The ship the Nostromo finds is very old by Dallas's observations: "Alien life form. It's been dead a long time. Fossilized...looks like's it's grown out of the chair."

And 37 years isn't hardly long enough for that planet to have gone through all the major geological changes it would have needed to look different between movies. Those strange rock formations seen in Alien look like they have been wind blasted smooth for hundreds (maybe even thousands) of years.

Also, something has to stop people from going back to this world after the Prometheus mission fails, not just ignoring the place then sending truckers to get infected 37 years later.

These are my specific concerns about the story as well, i don't want Scott fudging the Continuity of Alien just to be able to crowbar is Prometheus story into the Alien universe. I had had enough of the gaping plotholes in Terminator Salvation, potentially having the same in this film isn't good enough.

One concern where these discrepancies may have came from is

[Show spoiler]The original screenstory had a time travel element to it, that would have explained the fossilisation of the space jockey.

With Damon Lindelof coming onboard and rewriting it for a more modest budget may have resulted in the aforementioned discrepancies.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

Good points regarding the 3D trailer for Prometheus. I was able to see this before Wrath 3D, with previews in 3D including impressive 3D trailers of Avengers 3D and Hobbit 3D, and even MIB3D, but as far as Prometheus, which looks like an awesome movie by the way, the 3D is average based on the trailer alone. It's not strong 3D like Avatar or Hugo 3D, but not as weak as Clash of the Titans 3D either. They really needed to separate the cameras farther apart for a stronger pop to the layers.

Even so, this one looks very promising.

I think you'll find these interesting: http://www.totalfilm.com/news/ridley...-prometheus-3d

http://camerarentalz.com/ridley-scott-alien-epic/

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