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Old 06-19-2012, 03:58 AM   #4421
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I believe the movie is about 200 years in the future, so suspension of disbelief should be easy in a movie set that far ahead of our time.
It's not that far into the future. I thought it was set in 2093?
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:05 AM   #4422
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Actually being so long ago I had forgotten about post-surgery pain. So the funny thing is that I was wondering why they were still showing her doubling over in some of those scenes. Then that post just reminded me of it. LOL

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Old 06-19-2012, 04:05 AM   #4423
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It's not that far into the future. I thought it was set in 2093?
That's it. I hadn't thought of it before, but you're right--it really isn't that far ahead for a film like this.
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:11 AM   #4424
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Yes, I did read your entire post. To be honest with you, this was the first time I had heard of all this, and it's come as a bit of surprise. Of course I noticed a good number of the religious symbols in the movie, but this deliberate idea that we
[Show spoiler]"crucified one of their (blue engineer) emissaries"
sounds so ridiculous, even within the xenomorph universe. I, for one, am glad that he pulled back, because that angle is so preposterous it's almost laughable.
Why is it so preposterous? Most stories in the bible that involve contact with "angelic" figures or of a "divine nature" can be interpreted as an ignorant people not comprehending where these beings came from. It's common sense to consider it as a possibility.

As you, I didn't know anything about the concept we are discussing though until I came into this thread. But, reading what Scott said made me realize that this film was meant to be much bigger conceptually.
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:04 AM   #4425
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Why is it so preposterous? Most stories in the bible that involve contact with "angelic" figures or of a "divine nature" can be interpreted as an ignorant people not comprehending where these beings came from. It's common sense to consider it as a possibility.

As you, I didn't know anything about the concept we are discussing though until I came into this thread. But, reading what Scott said made me realize that this film was meant to be much bigger conceptually.
And this is being mentioned nearly everywhere I see this film being discussed, too. Hmmmmm....
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:19 AM   #4426
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Just to clarify, I'm not trying to start a debate on religious merit. I'm simply trying to discuss the nature and further expression of the concepts of the film based on what the director himself has said regarding the issue.
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:29 AM   #4427
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True it's not that far ahead but how far has medicine advanced in the last 80 years. I'd say it advanced by leaps and bounds, and could possibly do the same over the next 80.

I mean heck they had a machine capable of doing pretty much any surgery necessary. You'd figure there's been plenty of advancement in drugs as well.
Not saying it's right but it makes it easier to suspend the disbelief.

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That's it. I hadn't thought of it before, but you're right--it really isn't that far ahead for a film like this.
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:54 AM   #4428
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Some of you are very selective when it comes to suspension of disbelief. No problem with hypersleep pods and FTL travel in space? This is not our universe. Is it so far fetched to believe that pain killers without side effects could be developed by 2093? I think a reasonable amount of distress was exhibited by Shaw before she put on her suit. You do know that suit has some interesting properties, right? From the Weyland Corp timeline:

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Significantly upgraded space suit includes a variety of Weyland patented features, such as cadmium exo-skeleton; info display with mission details; vitals: environmental stats and more.

August 11, 2064

There have obviously been upgrades and improvements made to the suits by 2093.
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:57 AM   #4429
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Some of you are very selective when it comes to suspension of disbelief. No problem with hypersleep pods and FTL travel in space? This is not our universe. Is it so far fetched to believe that pain killers without side effects could be developed by 2093? I think a reasonable amount of distress was exhibited by Shaw before she put on her suit. You do know that suit has some interesting properties, right? From the Weyland Corp timeline:
Maybe in their universe they do not know how to run sideways.
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:10 AM   #4430
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Maybe in their universe they do not know how to run sideways.
Did you read my post about that?

Here's another take on what Prometheus is about:

http://io9.com/5919306/one-theory-th...-in-prometheus
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:12 AM   #4431
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I was just making a stupid joke.
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:25 AM   #4432
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I was just making a stupid joke.
I thought so. What I'm trying to figure out is the true relationship between the Alien and the Engineer. When the
[Show spoiler]Deacon was born, it reminded me of a butterfly bursting from a chrysalis.
. Perhaps the Deacon matures into a
[Show spoiler]9 ft tall Engineer. Also, is any of Shaw's DNA actually in the Deacon. We'll know for sure if it starts talking with a swedish/cockney accent in the sequel.
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:28 AM   #4433
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I thought so. What I'm trying to figure out is the true relationship between the Alien and the Engineer. When the
[Show spoiler]Deacon was born, it reminded me of a butterfly bursting from a chrysalis.
. Perhaps the Deacon matures into a
[Show spoiler]9 ft tall Engineer. Also, is any of Shaw's DNA actually in the Deacon. We'll know for sure if it starts talking with a swedish/cockney accent in the sequel.
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The Deacon matures into a predator, dun dun dun! (just another stupid joke.)
Anyway I never really got how the Deacon looks like that, from a women, an engineer, and a squid or whatever the hell it is.
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:30 AM   #4434
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The Deacon matures into a predator, dun dun dun! (just another stupid joke.)
Anyway I never really got how the Deacon looks like that, from a women, an engineer, and a squid or whatever the hell it is.
Looked like some kind of alien
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:52 AM   #4435
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I'm just freakin getting tired of explaining Promethues to people who didn't understand this movie at my work place. I give up, if people want to believe that Prometheus is a DIRECT LINK/Prequel to Alien then so be it. Frankly I'm tired of this ignorance of some people who just don't pay attention. I'm moving on now to other things now. I'm done talking about Promethues for now on.
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:02 AM   #4436
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Don't worry. If he dies Spielberg will come in and finish it. I mean, he did such great work on AI.
AI is a damn fine film - I can't deny that a few segments are heavily flawed, but on the whole I bloody love it.
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Old 06-19-2012, 02:45 PM   #4437
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...That part of the movie was just a little hard for me to swallow since I'd gone through something like it, but less severe.
But you're ok with movies where thousands of rounds of ammo are fired without hitting anyone? Or fight scenes where two people beat the crap out of each other for 15 minutes? Or car accidents where the car flips two dozen times and the occupants walk away without a scratch?

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Old 06-19-2012, 02:47 PM   #4438
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AI is a damn fine film - I can't deny that a few segments are heavily flawed, but on the whole I bloody love it.
It was a fine film until the point where Spielberg picked up where Kubrick left off.
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Old 06-19-2012, 02:56 PM   #4439
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I'm just freakin getting tired of explaining Promethues to people who didn't understand this movie at my work place. I give up, if people want to believe that Prometheus is a DIRECT LINK/Prequel to Alien then so be it. Frankly I'm tired of this ignorance of some people who just don't pay attention. I'm moving on now to other things now. I'm done talking about Promethues for now on.
I think the problem lies in the fact that Weyland, the derelict ship, the Space Jockey, and that the planet's name (LV- although NOT LV-426) were all prominently featured in the movie.
[Show spoiler]Also the derelict ship came crashing to the ground exactly the way it appeared in "Alien".
Add to it that there were numerous rumors that this, indeed, was a prequel in the beginning,and you have the ingredients for confusion within the average movie-going public. I mean, the title sequence was even like "Alien"! Not everybody reads up on the tiny details or hangs out in forums, y'know? Hell, it kinda confused me! I went in expecting "not a prequel", and was smacked with all sorts of images and references from "Alien"! Could NOT get the wife to understand that this was a standalone film BECAUSE of all of that. I kept getting, "Why is so much the same?", "But they had the alien ship!", "Why was that big guy from the chair in it, if it wasn't connected?" and
[Show spoiler]"But there was an alien at the end!"
I do believe if the writers made up their mind on what this movie was from the start, BEFORE any writing took place, folks wouldn't have been so confused.

(Not related to the poster above)
As to my gripe with
[Show spoiler]Shaw's surgery
, I'm alot like Roger Ebert in that regard. He gets upset when a movie, like "The Bucket List", features people with cancer, yet they seem to have zero side effects except when the audience needs to be reminded that these characters are sick. So they show a quick shot of them puking inbetween all of the extraordinary things they're doing that no real cancer patient would have the strength to do. Since I've kinda been through what she had, I just knew that her actions afterwards were physically impossible after an even more extreme procedure. No, I didn't have a problem with "hypersleep pods or FTL travel in space", because those are a staple in sci-fi. Like I typed, it didn't take away my enjoyment of the rest of the movie, that part of it just had me goin' .
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But you're ok with movies where thousands of rounds of ammo are fired without hitting anyone? Or fight scenes where two people beat the crap out of each other for 15 minutes? Or car accidents where the car flips two dozen times and the occupants walk away without a scratch?
Actually, since I'd never fired an automatic weapon, I had no idea that in real life a clip lasted for a few seconds, so, no it didn't, and still doesn't bother me since my brain is used to it. Fight scenes are usually awesome, so no, I don't really think about that either. As for car accidents, most recently I did indeed point out the unbelieveable one in the flick "In Time", where there is no way our "heroes" coulda survived
[Show spoiler]a convertible flipping through the air without seatbelts
. Are you typing that you've never had a moment where you cried "Bullplop!" during a movie? Especially when it's something you're familiar with?
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