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Actually gents i was watching the original Alien on BD the other day and noticed something that i hope isn't a contradiction, namely that one of the Nostromo crew says that the remains of the 'space jockey' is so old that it has fossilised. That means that the ship has been on the planet for a very long time, longer than the 100 year gap between Prometheus and Alien. Thoughts?
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Damn I hate confusion and contradictions of time line in a series of good films. Lets hope its explained well. |
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Maybe the Space Jockey species doesnt decompose after death like we do but instead fossilises ![]() |
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If its indeed LV426, then the timeline between Prometheus and Alien is way way wayyyyyyy too long as it has transformed into a barren and inhabitable rock. Remember Mars history guys? How it used to be way different and according to scientist it was kinda "beautiful" with its seas and all? Hell it could even be Earth millions of years ago if the wormhole thingy are indeed in the plot as earth atmosphere millions of years ago was also kinda crazy with all the various and thick gas and air elements in it! I dont know man. Just my humble and dumb opinion from a lametard like me who just happen to enjoy these movies and speculating abt it! ![]() ![]() PS : Sorry for my grammar as English aint my first but 3rd language. lol Cheers ![]() Last edited by PointManification; 01-04-2012 at 01:50 PM. |
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http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index...988#msg1243988 Excerpt: " RS: I mean, you could actually say, and there’s a quote I did, a pretty good quote: By the end of the third act you start to realize there’s a DNA of the very first alien, but none of the subsequent aliens. To tell you what that is is a pity, and I’m not going to tell you, because it’s actually pretty good, pretty organic to the process and to the original. But we go back, we don’t go forward". The implication could be that they go back in time via a wormhole. But the question remains: Do they stumble into a wormhole or is timetravel intentional. I speculate that it is unintentional. Excerpt:" RS I think one of the reasons why I’ve never gone back to science-fiction, even though I’ve often noodled around, thought about it, looked for story, looked for material, is that there’s a nice purity to the original Alien. It’s fairly pure. And this one does actually raise all kinds of other questions, because if someone could, a being, could be as monstrously clever to create something like we experienced in the very first one – I always figured it’s a weapon, and I always figured that [the ship in the first Alien] was a carrier of weapons. Therefore, who is that, inside that suit? That wasn’t a skeleton, that was a suit. And if you open up the suit, what do you get inside it? And why were they going, where were they going?" So, is it a suit or isn't it? If it is a suit, does the suit have properties that make it look fossilized? Perhaps it isn't as old as it appears. It seems a stretch to have the Alien eggs in the Space Jockey ship remain viable after thousands or millions of years. |
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I'm still interested in this. I've already stated that Sir Ridley's visual command is obviously still in peak condition. As for the theories being bandied about, we'll just have to wait for another trailer or the movie itself to get the full scope of whatever Ridley and crew are doing with this.
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For those of you interested in trivia, here is the genesis of Weylan(d)-Yutani Corp: http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Weyland-Yutani
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But so far the trailer points to us that the Jockey is indeed Humanoid figure. If thats really2 true, then damn thats kinda lame. Why cant they make the Jockey as a creature which we never seen before. Or perhaps the Jockey has always been humanoid thus they created humans in their image? LOL **** Im confused.
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In the final scenes in the teaser trailer we see the Space Jockey ship? exploding, then balanced upright with Shaw looking up at it. Then we see the ship falling over with both Shaw and Vickers running from it. (Those scenes appear to have been shot in Iceland.) Questions: Shaw, from what I read, is the protagonist (Ripleyesque character) and Vickers the antagonist, although, at this point she may have had a change of heart after finding out how purely evil and ruthless the Space Jockeys/gods/Engineers actually are.
So, are we to believe that the Space Jockey is on the ship that tipped over/crashed? Are they two different ships? How did Vickers and Shaw get there? (I'm assuming this is taking place on LV 426) Were they on the ship? What burst out of the Space Jockey Suit or out of the Space Jockey and the suit? Is there a final battle between Vickers/Shaw and what burst out of the Space Jockey suit? Ian Whyte (7 foot tall) has been cast as one of the Engineer/gods. Is he going to be involved in a final battle with Vickers/Shaw? Or is it just going to be Shaw against Vickers? (unlikely) If they manage to stage an ending like Alien's or Aliens', that will be something to behold. About 5 months to go. (RATS) |
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Ray, i'd be here until well after faculty closing time today trying to answer your questions, but the uber-short answer i can give you is that LV426 doesn't appear in the film. Iceland was standing in for Earth at the dawn of time. Yes, the ship we see crashing is the same model/make as the one from Alien, but this suggests it is the defacto vehicle used by the Engineers/Elder Gods to seed planets across the galaxy. Prometheus features backward time travel and is set 100 years before Alien. Ridley Scott has said that we will "See the DNA of the Xenomorph" in the film. This means in human terms showing us the equivalent of the ape creature that human beings evolved into. We will see this new creature and understand how the Xenomorph eventually evolved into the saliva-dripping acid-blooded killing machine we all know of!
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[Show spoiler] Also, the "dawn of time", terraforming scene is not the only scene of the film shot in Iceland. There were a least two locations used and around two weeks of shooting. This interview excerpt seems to put the scene of Noomi and Charlize running in spacesuits from the toppling ship in Iceland which is standing in for Earth at the "dawn of time" and LV 426 at an unknown point in time.) "Did you have to do anything to get in shape for this role? THERON: I didn’t have to get in shape for this role. I don’t really get to do a lot. I’m the suit, so I have a very fancy office with very expensive chairs, and I boss people around, in my very expensive suit. I didn’t really have that much action. In the third act, I have to do a little bit of running and stuff, which I just did in Iceland. I just came back on Monday. And, I s--t you not, I am bruised from head to toe, so maybe I should have gotten in shape for the film. I am so bruised, and Noomi [Rapace] has nothing. She does not have a bruise. She was like, “Why aren’t we rolling? Why aren’t we running?” I was out of breath and like, “Oh my god, it hurts!” LINDELOF: [Noomi] is an animal. Charlize is leaving out the part where all the running is happening with 40 pounds of gear. THERON: And I’m about seven feet taller than [Noomi], and we’re running in sand. I was going to do Mad Max, and then that got a push. I started training for that, for six months, but I’d be lying if I said I was training on this." http://marketsaw.blogspot.com/2011/0...rometheus.html I believe the scene with Vickers and Shaw running in spacesuits was filmed near Hekla, Iceland: http://www.chinci.com/travel/pax/q/2...ngarvallasysla Scott was quoted in an Icelandic Film Magazine Myndir manadarins in July/August 2011 stating that both the beginning and end of the film is shot in Iceland. Excerpt: Scott and crew, numbering over 300 people, have spent the last two weeks shooting what Scott (said) will be “around 15 minutes of the film. The beginning and the end will be shot here.” Last edited by raygendreau; 01-06-2012 at 10:14 PM. |
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