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Old 06-30-2020, 10:49 PM   #197661
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Favorite performance in a Hitchcock film you say?

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Old 06-30-2020, 11:14 PM   #197662
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Have never seen Strangers on a Train. Looks good, though. Looks like Hitchcock could use some Criterion love

I also enjoyed Foreign Correspondent but haven't picked it up yet. I think it will be my next Hitchcock Criterion pick. I really liked the cinematography, especially in the Dutch countryside. It really adds to the tension if that makes any sense. It was also nominated for Best Picture the same year as Rebecca but Rebecca won.
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Old 06-30-2020, 11:22 PM   #197663
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Interesting. I literally was just previewing (for the first time) the soundtrack for The Devil in Miss Jones before I decided to research Deep Throat, two seminal early 70s pornography films.

This was 2 days ago.

And now I see a post mentioning Deep Throat.

Hope you haven't been hacking my computer. Lol.
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Old 06-30-2020, 11:24 PM   #197664
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Have never seen Strangers on a Train. Looks good, though. Looks like Hitchcock could use some Criterion love

I also enjoyed Foreign Correspondent but haven't picked it up yet. I think it will be my next Hitchcock Criterion pick. I really liked the cinematography, especially in the Dutch countryside. It really adds to the tension if that makes any sense. It was also nominated for Best Picture the same year as Rebecca but Rebecca won.
Robert Walker (SOAT) is one of the great Hitchcock villains.
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Old 06-30-2020, 11:27 PM   #197665
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Robert Walker (SOAT) is one of the great Hitchcock villains.
THE great Hitchcock villain (I also love me some Norman Bates, but Walker is so diabolically mesmerizing.)
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Old 06-30-2020, 11:32 PM   #197666
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I called my local store today and they had to check a few places but she confirmed the 10th
Assuming the lady who gave you the confirmation is not mentally unstable and/or not under the influence of heavy medication and/or not a malicious practical joker, I am placing my faith on the July 10th date.
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Old 06-30-2020, 11:45 PM   #197667
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I know Rope is a little too campy to fit into a serious Hitchcock villains conversation but damn John Dall is good in that.
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I know Rope is a little too campy to fit into a serious Hitchcock villains conversation but damn John Dall is good in that.
Rope...campy?! In what world is Rope campy in any way?! You drunk again
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Old 07-01-2020, 02:06 AM   #197669
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Rope...campy?! In what world is Rope campy in any way?! You drunk again
It's basically a Columbo episode. We see the murder in literally the first minute and then it's just a matter of waiting to see how the murderers trip themselves up.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. I love Columbo and I love Rope.
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It's basically a Columbo episode. We see the murder in literally the first minute and then it's just a matter of waiting to see how the murderers trip themselves up.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. I love Columbo and I love Rope.
Well, now that you present it that way I can definitely kind of see it now.
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I also enjoyed Foreign Correspondent but haven't picked it up yet. I think it will be my next Hitchcock Criterion pick. I really liked the cinematography, especially in the Dutch countryside. It really adds to the tension if that makes any sense. It was also nominated for Best Picture the same year as Rebecca but Rebecca won.
Well, it was all shot in a studio in Los Angeles, so that lends to the typical Hitchcockian surreal-ness. And at least one of the signature shots showcasing the windmills is a half-composited optical combination.
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Old 07-01-2020, 03:32 AM   #197672
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Speaking of Hitchcock the Set is back in stock on the Criterion site
https://www.criterion.com/boxsets/11...ssic-hitchcock
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Rope...campy?! In what world is Rope campy in any way?! You drunk again
Really the only cornball aspect of Rope is the strangle victim somehow having the ability to emit a loud scream

If anything, it's too "gimmicky", what with its (ostensibly) one, uninterrupted take, but I love the hell out of it.

It's fascinating to note that Cary Grant was originally approached to play James Stewart's role (arguably the best moment of the film is Stewart's facial expression when his Philadelphia Story co-star is mentioned by one of the ladies), while Hitch wanted Montgomery Clift for the part that eventually went to John Dall. Now THAT would have been some casting, for several reasons...
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Old 07-01-2020, 05:29 AM   #197675
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The Eclipse Late Ozu set is on my list for the next 50% sale (whether B&N or Flash). I'm sufficiently interested in his work to not want to wait longer for upgrades, and the caps in the Beaver review of the set look alright to me.
That set was one of the best purchases I’ve made from Criterion. I don’t mind watching DVDs when that’s an option vs waiting for a (maybe) upgrade.
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Old 07-01-2020, 05:48 AM   #197676
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Robert Walker (SOAT) is one of the great Hitchcock villains.
It’s amazing when actors are given a polar opposite role from the ones they’ve been typecast as and it really clicks. Walker was the all american boy next door and then floors everyone as a killer. Dick Powell, a wide-eyed crooner in ‘30s musicals, gets a whole new career after being cast as a cynical noir detective in the ‘40s.
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Old 07-01-2020, 09:07 AM   #197677
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It’s amazing when actors are given a polar opposite role from the ones they’ve been typecast as and it really clicks. Walker was the all american boy next door and then floors everyone as a killer. Dick Powell, a wide-eyed crooner in ‘30s musicals, gets a whole new career after being cast as a cynical noir detective in the ‘40s.
Yes, I agree. I suppose the most obvious example of this is Henry Fonda's brilliant turn as an ice-cold killer in Once Upon a Time in the West.
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It's basically a Columbo episode. We see the murder in literally the first minute and then it's just a matter of waiting to see how the murderers trip themselves up.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. I love Columbo and I love Rope.
It's also a gay film. It's been years since I last watched it, and I don't remember "getting it" back then (maybe because I was much younger, but it appears many people didn't get the subtle hints). I like to rediscover movies and watch them with a different lens, so I will definitely be rewatching Rope and Strangers on a Train one of these days.
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Old 07-01-2020, 02:21 PM   #197679
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It's also a gay film. It's been years since I last watched it, and I don't remember "getting it" back then (maybe because I was much younger, but it appears many people didn't get the subtle hints). I like to rediscover movies and watch them with a different lens, so I will definitely be rewatching Rope and Strangers on a Train one of these days.
Rope was inspired by the Leopold/Loeb murder case, as was Richard Fleischer's Compulsion. Viewers in the 1940s may have been more familiar with the original murder case. I don't know if they would have been in on the "gay" theme of the story, as this was with the Hayes code still in effect, so any references would have been oblique at best. Seeing it with today's sensibilities, it's hard not to catch those hints, and I'm sure even some of 1950s audiences would have caught on.

While Rope is basically a closed-room murder mystery, and like a Columbo episode, the mystery is not so much whodunit as how are they going to trip themselves up, I think campy is the wrong word to describe it. It's a well-made, daring film and the actors are playing it straight (pun not intended). It may not be Hitchcock's best, but it's definitely worth a watch and I'd be glad if someone gave it a new scan.
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Well, it was all shot in a studio in Los Angeles, so that lends to the typical Hitchcockian surreal-ness. And at least one of the signature shots showcasing the windmills is a half-composited optical combination.
Nice. Not that familiar with techniques but there's something about Mate's style that clicks with me, much like Nykvist. So far, anyway. I like Deakins too (contemporarily).
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