The Criterion Collection

[MrStayPuft]

Anyone know if I would be able to get a replacement case for Third Man digipack this late? It's on backorder at the Criterion store, so do you think there's a chance?

I'm looking to buy a used one, but its a digipack version

[Icemouth]

Originally Posted by Joe Dalek

Last summer it was July 13-August 1. No reason to believe they won't have another one.

Opposite actually, there's no reason to believe they will have another one. Just because someone does something once doesn't mean it's always going to happen.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by ccfixx

You're also known for your misspelling of the English word "misreading" in here, as well.

I will get better, one day I promise

[BohemianGraham]

Holy crap! Monterey Pop, the complete set just dropped to 40.99! I had to order it, even though I was going to cut back! Gah, I am just not going to go to Amazon anymore. Even with the shipping and import tax, the set was still a dollar less than the actual Canadian selling price, as MP was 10 bucks cheaper on Canadian Amazon. I really hope the postal workers don't strike on Thursday now.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

Holy crap! Monterey Pop, the complete set just dropped to 40.99! I had to order it, even though I was going to cut back! Gah, I am just not going to go to Amazon anymore. Even with the shipping and import tax, the set was still a dollar less than the actual Canadian selling price, as MP was 10 bucks cheaper on Canadian Amazon. I really hope the postal workers don't strike on Thursday now.

It's always a good idea to check Amazon.com before jumping on something on Amazon.ca. Sometimes even with the shipping and everything you get it much cheaper then you would on Amazon.ca. For Criterion is even more worth it since the prices on Amazon.ca for Criterion are just crazy.

[BohemianGraham]

With the exception of the BBS set in November (didn't know we could order from the American site up here/dollar wasn't so high either), I've ordered all of my Criterions from Amazon.com. I was hemming and hawing about Monterey Pop for awhile, holding out for the B&N sale, but when I saw Amazon.com dropped it, I figured I'd better order it now, as I can't depend on the B&N sale, and my mom now wants her own Nook Color, in addition to buying one for me. Criterions are addictive.

[ShellOilJunior]

Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

Holy crap! Monterey Pop, the complete set just dropped to 40.99! I had to order it, even though I was going to cut back! Gah, I am just not going to go to Amazon anymore. Even with the shipping and import tax, the set was still a dollar less than the actual Canadian selling price, as MP was 10 bucks cheaper on Canadian Amazon. I really hope the postal workers don't strike on Thursday now.

Ahh, one of the least talked about Criterion Blu-rays in this thread!

I love the set. The audio quality is fantastic. The main feature is great and I LOVE the Redding and Hendrix sets

[BohemianGraham]

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

Ahh, one of the least talked about Criterion Blu-rays in this thread!

I love the set. The audio quality is fantastic. The main feature is great and I LOVE the Redding and Hendrix sets

I've been wanting Monterey Pop on home media for years! It's my favourite Music Festival from that era. Woodstock is overrated, and wasn't created as a festival for peace and love, but for profit. Monterey Pop was all about charity, and was more of a "true hippie" festival. I've studied a lot of the 1960s counterculture, and the music, so this is a must have for my collection.

Oh, Monterey also had better performers for the most part as well, despite half of them being the same.

[blkhrt]

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

Ahh, one of the least talked about Criterion Blu-rays in this thread!

I love the set. The audio quality is fantastic. The main feature is great and I LOVE the Redding and Hendrix sets

I have been curious about this set for a while, and my father-in-law loves concert dvds, so I might have to pull the trigger. Does anyone know how this price compares to the BN sale? I was planning on picking it up then, but if this is better...

[BohemianGraham]

Originally Posted by blkhrt

I have been curious about this set for a while, and my father-in-law loves concert dvds, so I might have to pull the trigger. Does anyone know how this price compares to the BN sale? I was planning on picking it up then, but if this is better...

It will be roughly 10 bucks less at the half off sale, as it's 62.99 in B&N's site, might be more in-store. I couldn't guarantee the sale, as I'm in Canada, and it might not match when my parents go on vacation.

[blkhrt]

Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

It will be roughly 10 bucks less at the half off sale, as it's 62.99 in B&N's site, might be more in-store. I couldn't guarantee the sale, as I'm in Canada, and it might not match when my parents go on vacation.

That makes sense. Thanks! I might end up waiting, just because I have spent a lot recently and need to save up some more.

[Monty70]

Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

I've been wanting Monterey Pop on home media for years! It's my favourite Music Festival from that era. Woodstock is overrated, and wasn't created as a festival for peace and love, but for profit. Monterey Pop was all about charity, and was more of a "true hippie" festival. I've studied a lot of the 1960s counterculture, and the music, so this is a must have for my collection.

Oh, Monterey also had better performers for the most part as well, despite half of them being the same.

Monterey Pop was a great concert. (I only have the Hendrix/ Redding BD though) I wish my favorite band would have been there. (Cream, who I saw at MSG in 2005) The band wanted to play Monterey, but due to greedy management they did not participate in the festival.

[BohemianGraham]

Originally Posted by Monty70

Monterey Pop was a great concert. (I only have the Hendrix/ Redding BD though) I wish my favorite band would have been there. (Cream, who I saw at MSG in 2005) The band wanted to play Monterey, but due to greedy management they did not participate in the festival.

One of my faves, Buffalo Springfield were there, but only on the outtakes due to management issues as well, and because there were "issues" between Neil and Stephen at the time. My two favourite Monkees, Peter and Micky, also make appearances in the crowd, and Peter introduced BS too. There were so many good bands lined up that had to cancel, refused due to idiot managers, or weren't invited. I find that Monterey is often overlooked in favour of Woodstock, even though without it, and Newport, you wouldn't have had a Woodstock. Woodstock is way too commercialised, and was from the get-go.

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

I've been wanting Monterey Pop on home media for years! It's my favourite Music Festival from that era. Woodstock is overrated, and wasn't created as a festival for peace and love, but for profit. Monterey Pop was all about charity, and was more of a "true hippie" festival. I've studied a lot of the 1960s counterculture, and the music, so this is a must have for my collection.

Oh, Monterey also had better performers for the most part as well, despite half of them being the same.

Woodstock was actually originally conceived to fund the building of a recording studio in Woodstock, NY, nothing more. Remember that the promoters had absolutely no idea how large Woodstock was going to become. Both Monterey Pop and Woodstock were great in their own ways. I didn't attend Monterey, but saw the movie in 4-track mag in NYC and again in Boston when my college radio station, where I worked, did promotion for the film and interviewed Leacock.

One of the best books on the Woodstock festival is written by long-time New York air personality Pete Fornatale called "Back to the Garden". It was published two years ago for the 40th anniversary. He does a great audio-visual presentation to promote the book, which those who are into this festival should try to catch if they're ever in the NYC area.

I attended the Woodstock festival and actually found a way to get in and out of the grounds.

The Monterey Festival was held in '67 and basically defined what the new progressive rock movement was about. It was a much more contained festival attracting a peak of 90,000 people for the Sunday night show, according to Wikipedia (although if you see the film it's hard to believe that the stage area could hold anywhere near 90,000). Woodstock attracted 300,000 to 500,000 people depending upon who you believe, plus another several hundred thousand outside of the concert area. Obviously that was a very different scene, but it pushed progressive rock into the mainstream.

Both concerts have both great and poor performances. Due to the size of Woodstock and the fact that the stage was still being constructed when the festival opened, it was harder to achieve decent sound and for the artists to hear themselves. I left Woodstock before the end because it got to the point where I couldn't really see anything specific on stage and all I could hear were the helicopters taking off and landing.

I loved Monterey Pop, but Woodstock had more influence on the culture, deserved or not. If one is into music from that time, both films are well worth owning as is "The Last Waltz".

And as for the other poster who claimed that Woodstock was too commercialized, Woodstock was not commercialized at all when it happened. There were no show sponsors. None. Watch the movie - you see no advertising anywhere. Woodstock was commercialized AFTER the festival in an attempt to keep the original promoters from financial ruin - perfectly understandable considering the circumstances.

[italy12]

loose="not tight", lose="can't find it, doesn't have anymore" or the opposite of "win".
their="belongs to", there="place", they're="they are", there's = "there is"
it's="it is", for everything else use "its"
then="after", than="compared with"
"a lot" not "alot"

You forgot to add affect/effect. Those usually confuse people as well.

[blkhrt]

Originally Posted by italy12

loose="not tight", lose="can't find it, doesn't have anymore" or the opposite of "win".
their="belongs to", there="place", they're="they are", there's = "there is"
it's="it is", for everything else use "its"
then="after", than="compared with"
"a lot" not "alot"

You forgot to add affect/effect. Those usually confuse people as well.

Heck, if we are going to add others to the list, you would need who's/whose, and about a dozen others.

Why do I suddenly get the feeling there are a number of English teachers hanging out on this board?

[italy12]

Originally Posted by blkhrt

Heck, if we are going to add others to the list, you would need who's/whose, and about a dozen others.

Why do I suddenly get the feeling there are a number of English teachers hanging out on this board?

Becuz their pro'lly r.

[BohemianGraham]

Originally Posted by ZoetMB

Woodstock was actually originally conceived to fund the building of a recording studio in Woodstock, NY, nothing more. Remember that the promoters had absolutely no idea how large Woodstock was going to become. Both Monterey Pop and Woodstock were great in their own ways. I didn't attend Monterey, but saw the movie in 4-track mag in NYC and again in Boston when my college radio station, where I worked, did promotion for the film and interviewed Leacock.

One of the best books on the Woodstock festival is written by long-time New York air personality Pete Fornatale called "Back to the Garden". It was published two years ago for the 40th anniversary. He does a great audio-visual presentation to promote the book, which those who are into this festival should try to catch if they're ever in the NYC area.

I attended the Woodstock festival and actually found a way to get in and out of the grounds.

The Monterey Festival was held in '67 and basically defined what the new progressive rock movement was about. It was a much more contained festival attracting a peak of 90,000 people for the Sunday night show, according to Wikipedia (although if you see the film it's hard to believe that the stage area could hold anywhere near 90,000). Woodstock attracted 300,000 to 500,000 people depending upon who you believe, plus another several hundred thousand outside of the concert area. Obviously that was a very different scene, but it pushed progressive rock into the mainstream.

Both concerts have both great and poor performances. Due to the size of Woodstock and the fact that the stage was still being constructed when the festival opened, it was harder to achieve decent sound and for the artists to hear themselves. I left Woodstock before the end because it got to the point where I couldn't really see anything specific on stage and all I could hear were the helicopters taking off and landing.

I loved Monterey Pop, but Woodstock had more influence on the culture, deserved or not. If one is into music from that time, both films are well worth owning as is "The Last Waltz".

And as for the other poster who claimed that Woodstock was too commercialized, Woodstock was not commercialized at all when it happened. There were no show sponsors. None. Watch the movie - you see no advertising anywhere. Woodstock was commercialized AFTER the festival in an attempt to keep the original promoters from financial ruin - perfectly understandable considering the circumstances.

Actually, Moneterey essentially launched the careers of Hendrix, Redding, The Who, and Joplin, as they became over-night sensations based on their appearance at the festival. Also, as stated before, the majority of the money made from Monterey was given to charity, rather than towards a recording studio. To me, that fits in the whole idea of "for profit," while Monterey was non-profit. I agree with you that Woodstock became over-commercialised as the years progressed, and have essentially moved away from their original idea of peace and love. Monterey Pop, on the other hand is still a non-profit, charitable organisation.

I do not deny the fact that Woodstock is a culture defining event, but I do feel that Monterey, and the Newport Folk Festival, both laid the foundation for an event like Woodstock to occur, and are often ignored because Woodstock is just so "big," and has essentially turned into a brand name; the antithesis of what the counterculture was about. It became a "plastic hippie" festival, rather than a "true hippie" one. The counterculture was dying in 1969, while it was just blooming in 1967. The whole idea of the counterculture had pretty much turned on its head. Media co-opted the counterculture, and was marketing it back to them, so it was mainstream, and most of the original message was lost. Most of the original hippies, the diggers, were driven underground. I could go on, but this is way off topic, which is about the Criterion collection on Blu-Ray. We'll agree to disagree.


On that note, DHL still won't recognise the tracking number Amazon issued on Friday for my order that includes Au Revoir Les Enfants and Bigger than Life. Amazon's own tracking is usually less accurate than DHL's, although DHL has been very poor in tracking orders as of late.

[BohemianGraham]

Originally Posted by Joe Dalek

This is somewhat inaccurate. Hendrix was just making a name for himself with the Experience, sure, but Otis Redding and The Who had been having hits for a couple years before Monterey (The Who in the UK mostly, but they weren't really huge in the US until the early '70s -- not overnight after Monterey).

Jimi was big in the UK, but not in North America. If you want to be technical about it, The Monkees helped in a small way in making him a household name by touring with him around this time.

Otis Redding was popular amongst predominantly black audiences, and this was his first major appearance in front of a white audience. It was also one of his last major appearances as he died in a plane crash 6 months later.

"I Can See for Miles," which was The Who's biggest US hit, came out in October 1967, a few short months after Monterey. It's the only song by them to hit the US top 10. They were huge in the UK, but this was their first major American performance. It started their rise to popularity in NA.

It's not that they didn't have careers, but they weren't as widely known until Monterey.

[ShellOilJunior]

Originally Posted by blkhrt

Heck, if we are going to add others to the list, you would need who's/whose, and about a dozen others.

Why do I suddenly get the feeling there are a number of English teachers hanging out on this board?

As opposed to "a letter of" ?

Sorry. One my pet peeves

Getting back to topic.

Would anyone like to see Criterion do more music Blu-rays? Perhaps they could get rights to some Beatles properties?