The Criterion Collection

[JohnCarpenterLives]

Originally Posted by jayembee

Since it's likely that Paramount titles will be leaving the Collection as licenses lapse, I figured that I'd take dwk's list of the titles, and re-order them by release date. That might help people try and prioritize them, as the older they've been around, the sooner they're likely to go OOP. I've left the already OOP ones in (as well as not-going-OOP Medium Cool) for context.

2008 12 02 #455 White Dog [DVD-only]
2009 05 05 #476 The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
2010 03 23 #409 Days of Heaven
2011 01 11 #404 Robinson Crusoe on Mars
2011 08 30 #391 If....
2012 06 12 #608 Harold and Maude
2012 10 30 #630 Rosemary's Baby
2013 05 21 #658 Medium Cool
2013 08 13 #667 Seconds
2013 09 10 #452 The Spy Who Came in from the Cold
2014 04 22 #704 Riot in Cell Block 11
2014 05 06 #396 Ace in the Hole
2014 10 21 #733 La dolce vita
2015 02 10 #745 Don't Look Now
2015 04 28 #475 The Friends of Eddie Coyle
2015 12 01 #494 Downhill Racer
2016 10 04 #683 Nashville
2017 12 12 #904 Election
2018 04 24 #920 The Virgin Suicides
2018 05 08 #921 Moonrise
2018 10 02 #415 The Naked Prey
2019 10 08 #528 3 Silent Classics by Josef von Sternberg (529 Underworld /530 The Last Command /531 The Docks of New York)
2020 07 07 #1037 The War of the Worlds
2020 09 29 #1051 The Elephant Man
2021 02 09 #1064 The Parallax View
2021 04 20 #435 The Furies

You should make a new Criterion. OOP Thread with this list. Confirmed, and possibles.

It's would save Mulvaney a headache if Criterion was upfront, and put up a blog post/email blast about this like they have in the past.

[Strangerbyday]

Originally Posted by Reddington

Apologies if I misunderstood. So the value was on the label addressed to the reshipper in NJ? I just checked the label on my sale shipment (to MA), and there's no indicated value.

I haven’t received it yet, it was delivered to the reshipper today & in the email from them they’ve confirmed they’ve received it, it has been forwarded to me & the value is marked at $79.88, which is the price I paid minus tax for the 4 in the order. So I’m just assuming the value was indicated on the box.

[caiman]

Originally Posted by jayembee

Since it's likely that Paramount titles will be leaving the Collection as licenses lapse, I figured that I'd take dwk's list of the titles, and re-order them by release date. That might help people try and prioritize them, as the older they've been around, the sooner they're likely to go OOP. I've left the already OOP ones in (as well as not-going-OOP Medium Cool) for context.

2008 12 02 #455 White Dog [DVD-only]
2009 05 05 #476 The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
2010 03 23 #409 Days of Heaven
2011 01 11 #404 Robinson Crusoe on Mars
2011 08 30 #391 If....
2012 06 12 #608 Harold and Maude
2012 10 30 #630 Rosemary's Baby
2013 05 21 #658 Medium Cool
2013 08 13 #667 Seconds
2013 09 10 #452 The Spy Who Came in from the Cold
2014 04 22 #704 Riot in Cell Block 11
2014 05 06 #396 Ace in the Hole
2014 10 21 #733 La dolce vita
2015 02 10 #745 Don't Look Now
2015 04 28 #475 The Friends of Eddie Coyle
2015 12 01 #494 Downhill Racer
2016 10 04 #683 Nashville
2017 12 12 #904 Election
2018 04 24 #920 The Virgin Suicides
2018 05 08 #921 Moonrise
2018 10 02 #415 The Naked Prey
2019 10 08 #528 3 Silent Classics by Josef von Sternberg (529 Underworld /530 The Last Command /531 The Docks of New York)
2020 07 07 #1037 The War of the Worlds
2020 09 29 #1051 The Elephant Man
2021 02 09 #1064 The Parallax View
2021 04 20 #435 The Furies

Man there are a bunch of those I want. Looks like I'll be referring to this list during the next sale.

[misterlibby]

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

Everyone saying their Le Cercle Rogue isn't working has me freaking out. I checked it again and it doesn't freeze at the 1 hour and 51 minute mark or at any point.

For those of you that have it freezing, does it freeze for a few seconds and then skips forward, or does it just stop completely?

Stops completely, no way to get past the freeze through chapter stops or fast forwarding or anything like that. Suuuuucks.

[hariseldon]

Originally Posted by Strangerbyday

I haven’t received it yet, it was delivered to the reshipper today & in the email from them they’ve confirmed they’ve received it, it has been forwarded to me & the value is marked at $79.88, which is the price I paid minus tax for the 4 in the order. So I’m just assuming the value was indicated on the box.

Just looked at my last UPS label and there's no value listed on the address label or box. I'm not aware that USPS labels would have the value on the label unless there is extra insurance applied.

I'm not sure how the reshipper would know the value unless they have an arrangement with certain warehouses which seems unlikely, they open the package to check contents or repackage before reshipping, or you told them the actual value

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by jayembee

2008 12 02 #455 White Dog [DVD-only]

By the way, if anyone wants this on blu-ray, it was released by Eureka back in 2014. It's still in print, but who knows for how long. It is RB-locked, though.

[dash_hornsby]

Originally Posted by misterlibby

Stops completely, no way to get past the freeze through chapter stops or fast forwarding or anything like that. Suuuuucks.

Mine does the same. Freezes near the end of the robbery and will no longer play.

[DVD Josh]

Originally Posted by caiman

Man there are a bunch of those I want. Looks like I'll be referring to this list during the next sale.

It's likely that they will all be gone by then.

[Normans Rare Guitars]

Paramount is pulling these titles back as it launches it's Paramount Plus streaming platform (which is also absorbing CBS All Access). Depending on how successful that is, they may re-forge ties with Criterion in the future. For now, they want all the exclusive content they can get.

[hariseldon]

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

Everyone saying their Le Cercle Rogue isn't working has me freaking out. I checked it again and it doesn't freeze at the 1 hour and 51 minute mark or at any point.

For those of you that have it freezing, does it freeze for a few seconds and then skips forward, or does it just stop completely?

Fingers crossed -- my original disc played right through that mark. It has that double layered dark golden tint which I find very difficult to distinguish from the described bronzing as long as the bronzing is uniform. I know in the past when I've had bad Criterion discs, the problem is either they won't load at all ( Lady Vanishes from the standalone itme, not the item in the boxset which appears to pressed later) or it seems to freeze with where I suspect the layer change is (SUmmer Hours and Walkabout). I guess that makes the most sense and why most people have disc that fail at apprx the same spot

[ShellBeacher]

Originally Posted by Normans Rare Guitars

Paramount is pulling these titles back as it launches it's Paramount Plus streaming platform (which is also absorbing CBS All Access). Depending on how successful that is, they may re-forge ties with Criterion in the future. For now, they want all the exclusive content they can get.

Yep, this obviously has something to do with the overall strategy. Just speculating, but I wouldn't be surprised if Paramount might be informing Criterion/enacting a contract clause "We're ending this licensing agreement upon finished sales of your current stock of titles X, X, X."

So there may be thousands of copies of other Paramount-licensed titles still around regardless...but then again they seem to be clear that "Medium Cool" at least is sticking around... Will they confirm the rest?

Criterion of course is "damned if you do, damned if you don't" in terms of giving notice to its customers/fan base. I can see the reasoning for not announcing anything prior to the Flash Sale or at all, even in a niche market -- they don't want scalpers to scrap up everything, either on sale days or simply due to OOP announcements.

Then again, it's possible that Paramount only informed them within the last week or something...?

"Parallax View" shot back up to 39.99 on Amazon today...it must be selling big regardless!

[BluProofie]

Have everything that went OOP except for Days of Heaven, but when I start to expand my Malick collection I’ll just pick up the upcoming Paramount disc. I ordered Harold and Maude when it was still $27 on Amazon yesterday. Will get Medium Cool when it’s restocked. Moonrise, Election, and Seconds will go on my list for July.

[Ned Brainard]

How many unreleased Paramount licenses does Criterion still have? Erich von Stroheim's The Wedding March has been in Criterion limbo for almost a decade and a half, but I don't necessarily see that film as a title that Paramount would want to reclaim for its streaming service or Paramount Presents line.

[mmarczi]

Originally Posted by cicada88

Do movies from the various Eclipse DVD sets show up in HD on the Criterion Channel?

Since this seemingly went unnoticed, yes, quite a bit of the Eclipse titles are streaming on the Channel. For all I know, it could be all of them. I was considering picking up some more Eclipse titles during the last Flash sale, but I decided that at this point I might as well just watch them streaming rather than spend money on barebones DVDs. Instead I added a whole bunch of them to my watchlist.

[acnorca]

Originally Posted by Normans Rare Guitars

Paramount is pulling these titles back as it launches it's Paramount Plus streaming platform (which is also absorbing CBS All Access). Depending on how successful that is, they may re-forge ties with Criterion in the future. For now, they want all the exclusive content they can get.

I'm no expert but aren't streaming rights and physical media rights two different things?

[SpaceBlackKnight]

Originally Posted by acnorca

I'm no expert but aren't streaming rights and physical media rights two different things?

Paramount are also releasing these OOP Criterion titles on Blu themselves (with digital codes), so it has to do with the video licences more than streaming rights. If Criterion also held streaming rights to these Paramount titles (they don't), then it would be a different story.

Speaking of digital codes with these former Criterion Paramount BDs, it's speculated Paramount's La Dolce Vita has a digital code. That suggests Paramount now controls digital/streaming rights from Criterion.

[tisdivine]

Weird question but does anyone have a picture of the Multiple Maniacs poster that Criterion sold awhile back? Im getting ready to sell mine but if I dont have to I would rather not take it out of the tube bc I know Ill mess it up trying to get it back in lol

[jw007]

Ladies and Gentlemen, I've officially gone apeshit!

On a whim, I drove down to my local Barnes & Noble (literally 1.2 miles from my apartment - took 6 minutes to drive there) and lo and behold I noticed 1 DVD and 2 blu-ray copies of Rosemary's Baby, 1 DVD of Harold and Maude, and 1 DVD of La Dolce Vita. I bought all of them on my credit card! (about $153 after 10% off $170). I'm hoping to hold on to these for a year or so and then try and sell them on Ebay when they're scarcer for under $100 each to make a bit of a profit.

What a score!

[traths]

Originally Posted by jw007

Ladies and Gentlemen, I've officially gone apeshit!

On a whim, I drove down to my local Barnes & Noble (literally 1.2 miles from my apartment - took 6 minutes to drive there) and lo and behold I noticed 1 DVD and 2 blu-ray copies of Rosemary's Baby, 1 DVD of Harold and Maude, and 1 DVD of La Dolce Vita. I bought all of them on my credit card! (about $153 after 10% off $170). I'm hoping to hold on to these for a year or so and then try and sell them on Ebay when they're scarcer for under $100 each to make a bit of a profit.

What a score!

[Show spoiler]

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

[ravenus]

Originally Posted by jw007

Ladies and Gentlemen, I've officially gone apeshit!

[Show spoiler]On a whim, I drove down to my local Barnes & Noble (literally 1.2 miles from my apartment - took 6 minutes to drive there) and lo and behold I noticed 1 DVD and 2 blu-ray copies of Rosemary's Baby, 1 DVD of Harold and Maude, and 1 DVD of La Dolce Vita. I bought all of them on my credit card! (about $153 after 10% off $170). I'm hoping to hold on to these for a year or so and then try and sell them on Ebay when they're scarcer for under $100 each to make a bit of a profit.

What a score!

You need to also factor in the fuel costs of driving down and back.