The Criterion Collection

[rkish]

Originally Posted by Joe Dalek

Those and Night of the Hunter are 2-disc BDs.

I don't know if Criterion ever ports content from the laserdisc days over to DVD/BD (was Jeck's Seven Samurai commentary on LD?). I'm totally oblivious to their LD past but I'm sure someone on here can comment as to how much this has happened and if it still does.

So is "The Leopard".

[kndy]

Originally Posted by aggienader08

How is it that foreign actors seem so much better in their lead roles? Are foreign viewers wondering the same thing? Of course this is pure speculation from an American standpoint. Perlman was so lame in this film. He was highly encouraged not to take this role, but he did anyway. I wonder how it would have turned out if someone else had filled his role?

As you probably know, del Toro is fascinated with Perlman and is featured in quite a bit of his films. His first choice is Perlman and the reason why he was encouraged not too was because del Toro had a difficult time getting the money for the film. But Perlman stuck with it because he had never found a director who knew so much about his career as was fascinated by him. So, in many ways, del Toro's fanboyish nature towards him paid off.

Originally Posted by aggienader08

Also, was it just me (and possibly my background working for a major symphony orchestra), or was the music poorly composed? I understand that Toro didn't have the finances to hire a major composer, but it seems like they could have found somebody better if they'd recruited from a university or something.

Unfortunately, low finances and also a tight schedule definitely forced him to make those decisions.

Bare in mind, del Toro has said that if he had the chance, he would love to redo the film. But of course, we have seen how his films have changed even with a big budget and I think if he was to redo "Cronos" with big budget special effects, better score and possibly more gore, I just don't think he would do it justice. It was perfect as is, considering the time period the film was released.

Originally Posted by Joe Dalek

Thank you. It's always been one I meant to buy, but I keep second-guessing the replay value. Probably an essential film to watch from time to time, though.

"Night and Fog" and "Shoah" are films I recommend. As for replay value, that's hard to say. Both are subjective to the viewer...

[keldons]

Originally Posted by Joe Dalek

Yeah, from the trailer that's kind of what I feared. Will definitely give it a rent though. Wished Criterion would've picked up Enter The Void as well.

Absolutely. Criterion generally puts out releases with nicer artwork and packaging, just think of what they could have done with Enter the Void. A ballsy film by a daring auteur. Important contemporary film? Hell yes. CG money shot and all.

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

I don't think that he is...

Two years ago you could not make a single negative comments about The Dark Knight anywhere. If you dared doing it you were being shut down faster then the Japanese Zero's at the Great Marianas Turkey Shoot in WWII.

Now it's been replace by Avatar & Inception. If you dare make a negative comment you are nothing but a hater. I promise you that in 18 months these two movies will have been forgotten for the lastest flavor of the moment.

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by neo_reloaded

What does that have to do with the actual quality of the films though? If you want to say that the general consciousness of the mainstream is fickle as they come, then sure I'll agree with you. But just as something is not necessarily good or bad because the mainstream ignored it, something is also not necessarily good or bad because the mainstream was obsessed with it for a brief period.

Sure, Inception and the like will be mostly forgotten in a few years, but what does that matter? That will happen with ANY movie - no public fervor is sustainable long-term save a few crazy exceptions (and I'd argue that those exceptions, like Star Wars, are continually refueled by new expansions - books, videogames, tv shows, etc.). Is being popular and then losing the attention somehow worse than never being popular at all? Does that period of popularity forever ruin the film's capability of being discussed or appreciated at any real level?

Though the series needs to remain dead, the new stuff is ruining the original trilogy. Also INCEPTION will be around for awhile, certainly longer than you think.

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by Joe Dalek

Those and Night of the Hunter are 2-disc BDs.

I don't know if Criterion ever ports content from the laserdisc days over to DVD/BD (was Jeck's Seven Samurai commentary on LD?). I'm totally oblivious to their LD past but I'm sure someone on here can comment as to how much this has happened and if it still does.

The Man Who Fell To Earth and RoboCop had commentary from the LaserDisc.

[neo_reloaded]

Originally Posted by Trekkie313

Though the series needs to remain dead, the new stuff is ruining the original trilogy. Also INCEPTION will be around for awhile, certainly longer than you think.

People who truly like Inception will continue to like it. The general public fervor over it will die, as it does with all films.

[keldons]

Originally Posted by neo_reloaded

People who truly like Inception will continue to like it. The general public fervor over it will die, as it does with all films.

Exactly. I've spent enough time with films to know what they mean to me, whether or not the mainstream or blu-ray.com approve of it.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by neo_reloaded

What does that have to do with the actual quality of the films though? If you want to say that the general consciousness of the mainstream is fickle as they come, then sure I'll agree with you. But just as something is not necessarily good or bad because the mainstream ignored it, something is also not necessarily good or bad because the mainstream was obsessed with it for a brief period.

Sure, Inception and the like will be mostly forgotten in a few years, but what does that matter? That will happen with ANY movie - no public fervor is sustainable long-term save a few crazy exceptions (and I'd argue that those exceptions, like Star Wars, are continually refueled by new expansions - books, videogames, tv shows, etc.). Is being popular and then losing the attention somehow worse than never being popular at all? Does that period of popularity forever ruin the film's capability of being discussed or appreciated at any real level?

It as nothing to do with the quality of the movie. The comment is more about people who just go from post to post in this fashion

2008 - The Dark Knight GREATEST MOVIE EVAR

2009 - Avatar GREATEST MOVIE EVAR

2010 - Inception GREATEST MOVIE EVAR

2010 - Current popular movie GREATES MOVIE EVAR

Then same person will call you a hater for having the audacity of not agreeing with his comments.

I don't truly care if every other movie they see become's "GREATEST MOVIE EVAR " but please don't expect me to take you very seriously and stop calling someone a hater if they happen to find something wrong with you "GREATEST MOVIE EVAR " of the moment. They look like highschool kids going from band to band every other week.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by keldons

You are free to think that I am wrong but stop and look at it and you will see exactly what I mean. If you do not it's alright as well I am not here to make converts.

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally Posted by jacobsever

Just watched the movie "XXY" on netflix, and it was an amazing story. Beautifully acted. Unfortunately there is no blu ray release.

I highly doubt Criterion would ever pick this up, but just out of pure curiosity, does anyone know if Criterion has ever obtained rights from the studio Film Movement? They are who released the dvd version of the film.

*edit* after going to film movement's website, i remember being linked to there from this thread before.

Avoid the U.S. release as it is a PAL-NTSC port. The UK SDVD release is a proper PAL transfer.

I would also recommend seeing and adding to your collection:

1. Sébastien Lifshitz's Wild Side:
http://www.amazon.com/Wild-Side-St%C...3&sr=1-2-spell

2. Bertrand Bonello's Tiresia
http://www.amazon.com/Tiresia-Lauren...2187439&sr=1-1

Both very strong films.

Pro-B

[aggienader08]

Originally Posted by neo_reloaded

What does that have to do with the actual quality of the films though? If you want to say that the general consciousness of the mainstream is fickle as they come, then sure I'll agree with you. But just as something is not necessarily good or bad because the mainstream ignored it, something is also not necessarily good or bad because the mainstream was obsessed with it for a brief period.

Sure, Inception and the like will be mostly forgotten in a few years, but what does that matter? That will happen with ANY movie - no public fervor is sustainable long-term save a few crazy exceptions (and I'd argue that those exceptions, like Star Wars, are continually refueled by new expansions - books, videogames, tv shows, etc.). Is being popular and then losing the attention somehow worse than never being popular at all? Does that period of popularity forever ruin the film's capability of being discussed or appreciated at any real level?

Ditto. There is no correlation between this and the quality of the film, period.

[keldons]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

You are free to think that I am wrong but stop and look at it and you will see exactly what I mean. If you do not it's alright as well I am not here to make converts.

It's not like you were saying anything complicated.

I see what you're saying, but to claim that people who don't enjoy Avatar or any other film are persecuted on this board is ridiculous. Dismissing Nolan, Spielberg, Cameron, not exactly groundbreaking among film enthusiasts, and I'm sure you could get away with any of those here.

Also, lumping films together as "flavors of the moment" comes across as commentary on the film's quality, whether you meant it that way or not.

Neo_reloaded explained my thoughts better than I could.

[aggienader08]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

It as nothing to do with the quality of the movie. The comment is more about people who just go from post to post in this fashion

2008 - The Dark Knight GREATEST MOVIE EVAR

2009 - Avatar GREATEST MOVIE EVAR

2010 - Inception GREATEST MOVIE EVAR

2010 - Current popular movie GREATES MOVIE EVAR

Then same person will call you a hater for having the audacity of not agreeing with his comments.


I don't truly care if every other movie they see become's "GREATEST MOVIE EVAR " but please don't expect me to take you very seriously and stop calling someone a hater if they happen to find something wrong with you "GREATEST MOVIE EVAR " of the moment. They look like highschool kids going from band to band every other week.

Says the man with Pirates of the Caribbean...

What on earth are you saying! LOL!

I feel like somebody just wants to go against the grain just for the sake of being different, simply because you seem so adamant about discrediting these films at all cost. I swear, I still don't understand what the point is of expressing your dislike of a film on threads among people who genuinely enjoy them, if that's what you're trying to do. Nobody here thinks "Inception is the greatest film EVAR!" though, it is however unique and enjoyable. Just cool it.

BTW, It's been 2 years since TDK and 1 year since Avatar, and I still enjoy them as much as I did then. And if your "not here to make converts", then just stop because your really stretching your argument.

[jacobsever]

Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

Avoid the U.S. release as it is a PAL-NTSC port. The UK SDVD release is a proper PAL transfer.

Thank you, I ended up ordering it from amazon.co.uk. It was actually about half the price as well.

[greekak229]

Originally Posted by aggienader08

Says the man with Pirates of the Caribbean...

What on earth are you saying! LOL!

I feel like somebody just wants to go against the grain just for the sake of being different, simply because you seem so adamant about discrediting these films at all cost. I swear, I still don't understand what the point is of expressing your dislike of a film on threads among people who genuinely enjoy them, if that's what you're trying to do. Nobody here thinks "Inception is the greatest film EVAR!" though, it is however unique and enjoyable. Just cool it.

BTW, It's been 2 years since TDK and 1 year since Avatar, and I still enjoy them as much as I did then. And if your "not here to make converts", then just stop because your really stretching your argument.

Kids, kids, you're both right.

[Zen_Amako]

It's a little off topic, but this weekend, I picked up the Insignia NS-WBRDVD2 Blu-ray player at Best Buy. This player is currently on sale for $89, and if you punch in a code on the remote (9113), a secret menu pops up that allows you to set it to whatever BD region and DVD region you want. It's similar in this regard to the Momitsu and Sherwood players, but it's so cheap, I bought one just to have a second region free player. For 89 bucks + tax, region coding can be one less worry, and BB seems to have loads of these players in stock.

[eatingclass]

Originally Posted by Zen_Amako

It's a little off topic, but this weekend, I picked up the Insignia NS-WBRDVD2 Blu-ray player at Best Buy. This player is currently on sale for $89, and if you punch in a code on the remote (9113), a secret menu pops up that allows you to set it to whatever BD region and DVD region you want. It's similar in this regard to the Momitsu and Sherwood players, but it's so cheap, I bought one just to have a second region free player. For 89 bucks + tax, region coding can be one less worry, and BB seems to have loads of these players in stock.

Whoa - and there's not limit to how many times you reassign the region? If so, I may have to go look into it.

By the way, has anyone had problems with Che Part Two? The subtitles on my disc start speeding up at about 46 minutes in, showing up before the corresponding dialogue starts and disappearing before it's over.

I looked up similar problems online but came up with nothing.

Thanks for the help!

[painted_klown]

Originally Posted by Zen_Amako

It's a little off topic, but this weekend, I picked up the Insignia NS-WBRDVD2 Blu-ray player at Best Buy. This player is currently on sale for $89, and if you punch in a code on the remote (9113), a secret menu pops up that allows you to set it to whatever BD region and DVD region you want. It's similar in this regard to the Momitsu and Sherwood players, but it's so cheap, I bought one just to have a second region free player. For 89 bucks + tax, region coding can be one less worry, and BB seems to have loads of these players in stock.

Thanks for the tip!

Stupid question alert: When using this BD player, can I play all region BDs on my american t.v.? Are there compatibility issues at all?

[keldons]

Originally Posted by eatingclass

Whoa - and there's not limit to how many times you reassign the region? If so, I may have to go look into it.

By the way, has anyone had problems with Che Part Two? The subtitles on my disc start speeding up, showing up before the corresponding dialogue starts and disappearing before it's over.

I looked up similar problems online but came up with nothing.

Thanks for the help!

No problems on my 120 GB PS3 Slim.

[eatingclass]

Originally Posted by keldons

No problems on my 120 GB PS3 Slim.

Thanks, keldons.