The Criterion Collection

[darkness2918]

Originally Posted by BobbyMcGee

Neither am I.

Hopefully this time around they are used only for select releases.

Criterion got a lot of flack the last time they tried to use them and ended up re-releasing a number of titles in plastic cases as a result (or was it all of them?).

I still have quite a few digipacks sitting on my shelf that I wish I had in plastic case form but have not gotten around to "upgrading".

Same, I wouldn't mind maybe 2-3 digipaks a year only & the rest in plastic cases. ill buy a digipak if I have absolutely no choice though.

[Polaroid]

Originally Posted by The Great Owl

Yeah, but I could throw two plastic case Blu-rays into the plastic bin in the place of one clunky digipak.

First world problems...

If it's like eraser head then it will be skinny

[The Great Owl]

Originally Posted by jw007

Is anyone else a fan of production code?

Originally Posted by WonderWeasel

I am not a fan of the "Hays" Code itself, though I do enjoy some of the creative innuendo writers/directors had to come up with to circumvent it, e.g. the "firewood" scene in Jubal, or the implied sexual relationship between Gutman and Wilmer in The Maltese Falcon.

I am a huge fan of the films that were created during the years of the Hays Production Code.

Here's how I see it...

I've participated in web forums that are strictly moderated to discourage abusive language and lewdness, and I've also participated in web forums where anything goes. It's actually more fun to participate in the forums that are moderated, because part of the fun is seeing the creative ways that people use to get around the rules.

The films that were created during the Production Code years were fun in the same sort of way, because, as WonderWeasel posted above, the creativity used to bring certain plot elements to the screen was fun to watch.

There's a great scene in Casablanca where Rick (Bogart) and Ilsa (Bergman) start to embrace and kiss in their room at night, the shot transitions to a lighthouse tower, and then cuts back to Rick and Ilsa after they're done. Every adult in the audience understands what the scene implies, but it's done in a way that people of all ages can enjoy the film.

[filmmusic]

Originally Posted by I KEEL YOU

Dude, where the hell do you live? On top of Mount Everest? Paper, especially cardboard doesn't deteriorate just like that if you're only somewhat careful. There are books that are many hundreds of years old.

When I said "deteriorate' I didn't mean that they'll fall apart. (Maybe I didn't pick the right word since English is not my native language?)
I mainly meant worn edges/corners, and I have many worn edges in cardboard cases or thick paper covers in old cds, books, DVDs..
(and I didn't use them regularly. They were in the shelf)
While the regular cases remain in pristine condition!

Not to mention that with digipacks it's a gamble.
I got my Fanny and Alexander with squeezed corners.

Also, i have another digipack (not Criterion) that has literally fall apart.
The plastic that held the discs has unglued from the cardboard!
Also, just got Batman TV boxset, and was already unglued in places!

So, there you are.

[Polaroid]

Originally Posted by filmmusic

When I said "deteriorate' I didn't mean that they'll fall apart. (Maybe I didn't pick the right word since English is not my native language?)
I mainly meant worn edges/corners, and I have many worn edges in cardboard cases or thick paper covers in old cds, books, DVDs..
(and I didn't use them regularly. They were in the shelf)
While the regular cases remain in pristine condition!

Not to mention that with digipacks it's a gamble.
I got my Fanny and Alexander with squeezed corners.

Also, i have another digipack (not Criterion) that has literally fall apart.
The plastic that held the discs has unglued from the cardboard!
Also, just got Batman TV boxset, and was already unglued in places!

So, there you are.

See I've never had these problems myself except for night if the hunter which I replaced for $5 and came perfect.

I've said many times I've had more cracked/snapped plastic cases and it's so annoying lol...

They just need to do normal digital releases and sell a plastic case replacement case with artwork on their site.

Everyone's a winner.

[oxymoron1948]

Originally Posted by nitin

would you happen to know if B&N online still has the same exorbitant international shipping rates they had last Criterion sale (which were introduced with the new online site)?

I believe that this improved-website-related problem may at last be fixed. Additional DVDs after the first item seem once again to be charged at an extra $0.99 for shipping, and not at the rate applicable to a hardback book. To resolve the problem has taken a mere three months.

[Gerby]

Originally Posted by The Great Owl

I am a huge fan of the films that were created during the years of the Hays Production Code.

Here's how I see it...

I've participated in web forums that are strictly moderated to discourage abusive language and lewdness, and I've also participated in web forums where anything goes. It's actually more fun to participate in the forums that are moderated, because part of the fun is seeing the creative ways that people use to get around the rules.

The films that were created during the Production Code years were fun in the same sort of way, because, as WonderWeasel posted above, the creativity used to bring certain plot elements to the screen was fun to watch.

There's a great scene in Casablanca where Rick (Bogart) and Ilsa (Bergman) start to embrace and kiss in their room at night, the shot transitions to a lighthouse tower, and then cuts back to Rick and Ilsa after they're done. Every adult in the audience understands what the scene implies, but it's done in a way that people of all ages can enjoy the film.

Yeah but at the same time, there were no more balls out crazy movies being made like the ones during the pre code era like SAFE IN HELL, CALL HER SAVAGE, NIGHT NURSE, BABY FACE or THREE ON A MATCH.

[kuro_sawa]

Originally Posted by Jowiko96

The Mulholland Drive release is a Digi-Pack, folks!

Any chance that's yours, you've opened it and have your camera nearby? I'd love to see the rest of the packaging.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by kuro_sawa

Any chance that's yours, you've opened it and have your camera nearby? I'd love to see the rest of the packaging.

That's Lynch's makeup table

[kuro_sawa]

I always figured him for a red lipstick honestly.

[buffetfroid]

Originally Posted by Polaroid

See I've never had these problems myself except for night if the hunter which I replaced for $5 and came perfect.

I've said many times I've had more cracked/snapped plastic cases and it's so annoying lol...

They just need to do normal digital releases and sell a plastic case replacement case with artwork on their site.

Everyone's a winner.

I thought about buying one of the replacement cases once--forget which movie. Then I realized I'd be paying $5 for packaging.

[bwdowiak]

Originally Posted by filmmusic

Am I the only one here that doesn't like digipacks for the reason that they deteriorate more easily in time (even if you're as careful as can be) than the regular cases?

Polaroid has never received a damaged CC digipak.

[jmclick]

Originally Posted by WonderWeasel

I am not a fan of the "Hays" Code itself, though I do enjoy some of the creative innuendo writers/directors had to come up with to circumvent it, e.g. the "firewood" scene in Jubal, or the implied sexual relationship between Gutman and Wilmer in The Maltese Falcon.

And the implied sexual relationship between Joel Cairo and his walking cane in The Maltese Falcon. I almost wish I'd remained unaware of that subtext since I can't watch that scene between Lorre and Bogart anymore without marveling at John Huston's audacity.

Other examples of great innuendo: Barbara Stanwyck examining the size and heft of Barry Sullivan's pistol in Sam Fuller's Forty Guns, and Monty Clift and John Ireland emptying their pistols together in Howard Hawks' Red River.

[thismightbezach]

Originally Posted by jmclick

And the implied sexual relationship between Joel Cairo and his walking cane in The Maltese Falcon. I almost wish I'd remained unaware of that subtext since I can't watch that scene between Lorre and Bogart anymore without marveling at John Huston's audacity.

They also subtly suggested Cairo was gay because of his gardenia perfume. Quite clever!

[Snicket]

Criterion just posted a Pic of an interview with the Coens "talking about music".


Llewyn Davis incoming!

[CinemaBlu]

Originally Posted by filmmusic

Am I the only one here that doesn't like digipacks for the reason that they deteriorate more easily in time (even if you're as careful as can be) than the regular cases?

I LOVE digipaks. I wish they could all be digipaks. They're much nicer looking and the fact that they're delicate makes me appreciate them more.

::EDIT::
Not a big fan of digibooks though.

[Polaroid]

Originally Posted by bwdowiak

Polaroid has never received a damaged CC digipak.

I've never claimed that lol

[bwdowiak]

Originally Posted by Polaroid

I've never claimed that lol

On August 9th, Polaroid wrote:

Originally Posted by Polaroid

Am I only one that has never received a damaged digipak >.>?

now I'm confused

[jw007]

Originally Posted by The Great Owl

I am a huge fan of the films that were created during the years of the Hays Production Code.

Here's how I see it...

I've participated in web forums that are strictly moderated to discourage abusive language and lewdness, and I've also participated in web forums where anything goes. It's actually more fun to participate in the forums that are moderated, because part of the fun is seeing the creative ways that people use to get around the rules.

The films that were created during the Production Code years were fun in the same sort of way, because, as WonderWeasel posted above, the creativity used to bring certain plot elements to the screen was fun to watch.

There's a great scene in Casablanca where Rick (Bogart) and Ilsa (Bergman) start to embrace and kiss in their room at night, the shot transitions to a lighthouse tower, and then cuts back to Rick and Ilsa after they're done. Every adult in the audience understands what the scene implies, but it's done in a way that people of all ages can enjoy the film.

Yes...and in some ways I also like the industry's moral guidelines of the time, which is probably impossible to replicate in today's culture, where pretty much anything goes.

Can a time like that come back again, when society is less immoral?

Sorry, I'm being a bit philosophical...

But as much as production code is a hinderance, I can also see it as a creative challenge to push the limits using subtle inferences and innuendo but not being so obvious like everything nowadays is, regarding sexuality and violence in cinema.

[hoytereden]

Originally Posted by jmclick

And the implied sexual relationship between Joel Cairo and his walking cane in The Maltese Falcon. I almost wish I'd remained unaware of that subtext since I can't watch that scene between Lorre and Bogart anymore without marveling at John Huston's audacity.

Other examples of great innuendo: Barbara Stanwyck examining the size and heft of Barry Sullivan's pistol in Sam Fuller's Forty Guns, and Monty Clift and John Ireland emptying their pistols together in Howard Hawks' Red River.

Originally Posted by thismightbezach

They also subtly suggested Cairo was gay because of his gardenia perfume. Quite clever!

It's fun to watch the '31 and '41 versions back to back. Dwight Frye as Wilmer!
I do hope Criterion gives us some Pre-code films. A personal favorite of mine is The Story of Temple Drake but there are so many good ones to choose from.