The Criterion Collection

[UncleBuckWild]

Originally Posted by growler

Anyone here used this?

I sent in Kagemusha which freezes & is on the list of defective discs.

Tracking shows they received it 3 weeks ago.

I emailed Jon a couple days ago to check status but, no reply.

For those who did exchange a disc, how long did it take & did you receive any communication?

J's got a gambling problem. so he'll be away for a while.

You need to contact Claire or the folks at customer support. Try them both.

claire@criterion.com

orders@criterion.com

Once they acknowledge your email, from there on it's a pretty straight forward process and you'll receive the new disc soon.

... Good Luck.

[thatguamguy]

Originally Posted by lilboyblu

Would love for Hal Ashby’s The Landlord to get the Criterion treatment. Having an MGM MOD DVD-R be the only available format for the film is rather insulting.

Maybe a year or so back, I ordered all of the MGM DVD-Rs I wanted in one go, and I had this on my unwatched stack for a while, without really giving it much thought, because it seems to have very little reputation. I finally watched it as part of a series of "first films" that I'd never seen, along with "Good Times" and "Targets" and a few other random ones. I was really shocked at how good it was, it seemed way way ahead of its time, and I would definitely say it ranks high on the list of all-time best first films, better than any of his contemporaries. I would be glad to be able to buy it on Blu, from Criterion or anybody else who wants to sell it.

[Ray Jackson]

Originally Posted by UncleBuckWild

J's got a gambling problem. so he'll be away for a while.

You need to contact Claire or the folks at customer support. Try them both.

claire@criterion.com

orders@criterion.com

Once they acknowledge your email, from there on it's a pretty straight forward process and you'll receive the new disc soon.

... Good Luck.

Mulvaney won't respond to emails unless you show a little skin.

...that's how I finally got my replacement disc for Carlos.

[Show spoiler]

[hoytereden]

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Mulvaney won't respond to emails unless you show a little skin.

...that's how I finally got my replacement disc for Carlos.

[Show spoiler]

Hard to tell who has more fur!

[UncleBuckWild]

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Mulvaney won't respond to emails unless you show a little skin.

...that's how I finally got my replacement disc for Carlos.

[Show spoiler]

He's a devil I tell you.

Although J's doing quite well at his new part-time job as a cabbie.

I once told him to drop me off at the nearest station and the way I'll repay him is by not using those damn coupons at B&N.

... He gladly agreed. So the man's still got a heart of gold.

[ravenus]

Originally Posted by Edward J Grug III

Very surprised people are picking Red River over My Darling Clementine.
I enjoy Red River, but My Darling Clementine is up there with The Searchers for Ford's best.

True. Wayne is really good in this, but the wrapped up happy conclusion nearly kills the impact of the film for me. All it takes is one person to say "You bad boys, you behave now." to douse a massive conflict of egos, bah.

Originally Posted by belcherman

Here are three reasons I prefer the original teleplay of 12 Angey Men to the 1957 movie starring Henry Fonda.

[Show spoiler]1. Technical accomplishment. Director Franklin Schaffner shot it live on a small set (the jurors’ room), yet it never felt stagey because of his skillful use of multiple cameras. This might not seem like a big deal now, but it was then. He had one chance to get it right and he got it right.

2. That damn white suit. Henry Fonda’s character is set apart from the other members of the jury, not just because of his belief in the defendant’s innocence, but through his profession and his dress. He comes off, to me, as superior, like a knight in seersucker trying to convert the infidels. Robert Cummings character, on the other hand, comes off as more of an Everyman, just an average Joe trying to puzzle things out as he goes along.

3. Economy and ambiguity (ok, four reasons). The teleplay tells its story in an hour, and everything you need is there. The movie version just seemed padded in comparison. The movie version gives you a wrapped-with-a-bow ending, while the teleplay doesn’t. It leaves things less settled, and gives the viewer more to think about.

Both versions are great and I highly recommend the Criterion release, but do yourselves a favor and check out all the supplements. They’re great.

On a side note, I first saw TAA when I was younger than the defendant in the movie. Back then, I was convinced of his innocence based on the Fonda character’s earnestness. If I was on that jury now, my vote would be guilty based on the evidence presented in both versions. But that’s a discussion for a different day.

Very well put, and although I do watch the feature film more than the TV version I find myself agreeing to your arguments. Casting Fonda as the naysayer was like the casting of Harrison Ford as The Fugitive, it totally negates the ambiguity of the situation (Barry Norman was right when he said Tommy Lee Jones should have been cast in Ford's role and vice versa).

[KrugerIndustrial]

Originally Posted by KrugerIndustrial

Is the dual format edition L’eclisse out of print? Gone from the Criterion store, Amazon and BN.

Anyone?

[joy-division]

Originally Posted by javy

My most anticipated blu-ray releases at the moment are Criterion's restorations of The Passion of Joan of Arc and Night of the Living Dead.

would you not settle for the Masters of Cinema release of Passion? Worth getting just for the book!

[ravenus]

Originally Posted by KrugerIndustrial

Is the dual format edition L’eclisse out of print? Gone from the Criterion store, Amazon and BN.

Amazon only says temporarily out of stock, they still take orders for it. They're waiting for fresh stocks, or it will be replaced by a BD only edition.

[easyrider]

G'day from Australia

I recently bought a stack of Criterion Collection DVDs (not blu rays, unfortunately!) at the local charity shop.

Just wondering if the CC DVDs have retained their colllectability and are still sought after by discerning lovers of film?

[Sifox211]

Fit like? *

I've found in the UK at least that the second hand value of Criterion DVDs is low (under £5 on eBay typically) - I assume that is because anyone minded to import would probably already be using Blu-ray. Is it different in the States?


* Aberdonian greeting, abdy.

[lilboyblu]

Originally Posted by easyrider

G'day from Australia

I recently bought a stack of Criterion Collection DVDs (not blu rays, unfortunately!) at the local charity shop.

Just wondering if the CC DVDs have retained their colllectability and are still sought after by discerning lovers of film?

Some of them are more collectible than others, but their current value will be dependent on what overall condition they’re in. The closer to looking as Like New, the higher the value. OOP titles, or titles yet to reach Blu-ray, are also more sought after.

[hoytereden]

Originally Posted by belcherman

I may be in the minority here, but I would take Red River. John Wayne and Montgomery Clift are both great playing against each other and Hawks gives you the feeling of being on a cattle drive. As for My Darling Clementine, it's very good but two things bothered me about. The first is that Tombstone, AZ is nowhere near Ford's beloved Monument Valley, and the other is that I could never get used to Fonda in that droopy mustache.

The mustache didn’t bother me as much as

[Show spoiler]Doc Holliday dying in the OK Corral!

On the character of Earp-I enjoy the oddball casting of Will Geer as Wyatt in Winchester ‘73. The reactions of Stewart and Millard Mitchell when they realize who they’re arguing with are priceless. Are the Mann westerns with Universal? I know The Furies is Criterion and The Man From Laramie got a Twilight Time release but the others??

[ShellOilJunior]

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Mulvaney won't respond to emails unless you show a little skin.

...that's how I finally got my replacement disc for Carlos.

[Show spoiler]

Some believe the man with his back to the camera is Jon Mulvaney:

[Show spoiler]

[belcherman]

Originally Posted by hoytereden

The mustache didn’t bother me as much as

[Show spoiler]Doc Holliday dying in the OK Corral!

On the character of Earp-I enjoy the oddball casting of Will Geer as Wyatt in Winchester ‘73. The reactions of Stewart and Millard Mitchell when they realize who they’re arguing with are priceless. Are the Mann westerns with Universal? I know The Furies is Criterion and The Man From Laramie got a Twilight Time release but the others??

I think they're all with Universal except for The Naked Spur, which is with Warner.

[SeanJoyce]

Originally Posted by GaragePoet

i really liked the remake. the cast was superb. while i have nothing bad to say about the original, i just wasn't as familiar w/ the cast members. i suppose in some way this makes it more like a "bunch of guys" on a jury, but i really enjoy watching the cast of characters in the remake.

Don't want to go off on a tangent here, but is anybody else amused by the fact that George C. Scott went on to essay 3 different roles first played by Lee J. Cobb?

Juror #3 - 12 Angry Men ('57/'97)
Lt. Kinderman - The Exorcist/The Exorcist III
Willy Loman - Death of a Salesma (stage)

The fact that their names are similar makes it even better.

[UncleBuckWild]

Originally Posted by Sifox211

Fit like? *

I've found in the UK at least that the second hand value of Criterion DVDs is low (under £5 on eBay typically) - I assume that is because anyone minded to import would probably already be using Blu-ray. Is it different in the States?


* Aberdonian greeting, abdy.

I think it varies dramatically...

It depends where you go... Places like Half Price Books usually sell them based on popularity and production status.

You can certainly find some OOP titles for double or triple digits.

The standard releases sell for anywhere between $8-15.

However, thrift stores are the place where you could score a few deals and find some hidden gems for under 3-6 bucks.

[bwdowiak]

Originally Posted by Abdrewes

Nice call. Jubal's price point is pretty damn sweet too.

The Hellman double feature is awesome bang for your buck-wise, but the audience for those is and always will be rather small.

How are those two movies? I initially had no interest in them, but the descriptions sound good, they're well reviewed, and the PQ got top marks.

I've grown to really love westerns and I'm definitely drawn towards "different" or "eerie" as one of the films is described.

[BarnDoor]

Originally Posted by belcherman

I think they're all with Universal except for The Naked Spur, which is with Warner.

Rumour has it that Criterion might have licenced it.

[The Great Owl]

Originally Posted by bwdowiak

How are those two movies? I initially had no interest in them, but the descriptions sound good, they're well reviewed, and the PQ got top marks.

I've grown to really love westerns and I'm definitely drawn towards "different" or "eerie" as one of the films is described.

Jubal is excellent, and it's one of the most underrated Criterion titles. This western has a great cast, and it has an engaging film noir edge.

Hellman's The Shooting/Ride in the Whirlwind is quite wonderful as well, with Ride in the Whirlwind being the superior film of the two.