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Cremildo · 03-19-2018, 12:08 AM

T2 is better and more influential than lots of films that have been given the wacky C treatment. Not sure why it'd be such a travesty having it in the collection.

octagon · 03-19-2018, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cremildo

T2 is better and more influential than lots of films that have been given the wacky C treatment. Not sure why it'd be such a travesty having it in the collection.

It wouldn't be a travesty but it might be pointless.

I don't know what the current state of affairs might be regarding T2 but weren't many of the PQ complaints the result of very deliberate 'grain management' decisions made by Cameron? I mean, I could be mixing up films now, it's been a few years but I don't think I am.

And if that's the case is there any reason to think a Criterion release would be any more satisfying in that regard?

edit: maybe I'm thinking of Aliens, actually. not sure now

CyberpunkCentral · 03-19-2018, 12:46 AM

I heard mixed things about the T2 UHD release. Can anyone explain to me what exactly is the problem?

Reddington · 03-19-2018, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by StarDestroyer52

Sign me up since I've never seen The Abyss.

The Abyss is great until the ending, when it's not so great. But it is still a complete mystery why Cameron has resisted a BD release. The same with True Lies - which I think is his best film. Both big blockbusters that would seem like prime BD titles.

Jexes23 · 03-19-2018, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Cremildo

T2 is better and more influential than lots of films that have been given the wacky C treatment. Not sure why it'd be such a travesty having it in the collection.

I own quite a few and that is dead on. Some of the titles just leave you shaking your head.

javy · 03-19-2018, 01:14 AM

I would be down with a T2 Criterion release. Cause then maybe they could pull some strings and include the Guns N' Roses You Could Be Mine video in HD. And maybe even give the film a proper transfer.

stonesfan129 · 03-19-2018, 01:21 AM

From the reviews I've read of the Blu-rays of Terminator 2, it was the victim of heavy-handed DNR by James Cameron. It will probably never happen, but here's to hoping.

MifuneFan · 03-19-2018, 01:22 AM

T2 is from Lionsgate, so it's never happening.

DaBargainHunta · 03-19-2018, 01:37 AM

T2 would not do well for Criterion anyway. There have been multiple $5 Blu-ray releases of it already. Who would pay $20-$40 for it? Very few people IMO. I probably wouldn't. And I say that as an Arnie fan.

With that said, I'd love to see some of James Cameron's unreleased Blus get the Criterion treatment.

Hoke Moseley · 03-19-2018, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dabargainhunta

t2 would not do well for criterion anyway. There have been multiple $5 blu-ray releases of it already. Who would pay $20-$40 for it? Very few people imo.

Hoke Moseley · 03-19-2018, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MifuneFan

T2 is from Lionsgate, so it's never happening.

The other day I noticed that Lionsgate has Drugstore Cowboy too. Something I’ve been hoping for (and expecting) Criterion to release for years. -_-

Markgway · 03-19-2018, 03:48 AM

The Terminator - a classic with cultural impact - belongs to MGM (like Silence of the Lambs) so surely Criterion could sort something out?

The 4K remaster with original mono soundtrack... and I'm already sold.

DaBargainHunta · 03-19-2018, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoke Moseley

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Yeah, that means nothing. Absolutely nothing.

There was one previous Breakfast Club Blu-ray. The Criterion version has substantial extras, including never-before-seen deleted and extended scenes. True fans are obviously going to double-dip or make sure the Criterion version is the one they get.

T2 is already on its third Blu-ray, and that's before Criterion. Not to mention, two of those previous Blus have been $5 a pop at various points. What can Criterion possibly add that we haven't gotten already? Not a damn thing to make it enticing enough to pay $20-$40. It's not going to happen anyway, and it shouldn't happen.

jw007 · 03-19-2018, 04:43 AM

I just cannot see James Cameron's blockbuster films EVER being in the Criterion Collection. One can dream, but it ain't happening boys. He's too big for Criterion.

AaronJ · 03-19-2018, 05:19 AM

Oh great. My Sony Blu-ray player suddenly won't play Region A discs. This is fun. I've tried every possible thing that I can think of, and nothing works. I tried contacting Sony -- Oh, that's fun.

Thankfully, the disc I want to watch, Ingrid Goes West, has a Digital Code. So I can watch it on my iMac. But my Blu-ray player not working is seriously bad. Obviously I clicked on something wrong. But I have no idea what it was, and no matter how hard I try to fix it, nothing goes right.

Thankfully, I have vodka. Oh well.

ETA: Oh, and I lost Twitter too. More fun.

octagon · 03-19-2018, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronJ

Oh great. My Sony Blu-ray player suddenly won't play Region A discs. This is fun. I've tried every possible thing that I can think of, and nothing works. I tried contacting Sony -- Oh, that's fun.

Thankfully, the disc I want to watch, Ingrid Goes West, has a Digital Code. So I can watch it on my iMac. But my Blu-ray player not working is seriously bad. Obviously I clicked on something wrong. But I have no idea what it was, and no matter how hard I try to fix it, nothing goes right.

Thankfully, I have vodka. Oh well.

ETA: Oh, and I lost Twitter too. More fun.

Could be worse. You could have twitter and no vodka.

AaronJ · 03-19-2018, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by octagon

Could be worse. You could have twitter and no vodka.

Good point.

diskspinner · 03-19-2018, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jw007

I just cannot see James Cameron's blockbuster films EVER being in the Criterion Collection. One can dream, but it ain't happening boys. He's too big for Criterion.

Is "The Silence of the Lambs" the biggest film (@ 272 million) in criterion collection (considering only the blu-ray releases) in terms of worldwide boxoffice at #488?
If we consider worldwide adjusted then "The Graduate" is at #22

20th Century Boy · 03-19-2018, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBargainHunta

Yeah, that means nothing. Absolutely nothing.

There was one previous Breakfast Club Blu-ray.

Incorrect. I'm looking at 2 different blu-rays beside the CC version as I type.

ravenus · 03-19-2018, 03:09 PM

There would be no benefit to Criterion releasing James Cameron movies (other than maybe Piranha II) because Cameron is already personally involved in the release of most of his films. Do people here really think that Criterion (which bowed to Michael Mann's revisionist grading for Thief and Vittorio Storaro's Univisium AR for Last Emperor) is going to stand up to Cameron and say, "Hey Jim, we know you personally supervised the new sound mix but we're going to insist on adding the original mono mix. And would someone call George and tell him to hand over the reels of those unaltered Star Wars versions, we've had enough of his crap."

03-19-2018, 05:19 AM	#174855
AaronJ Banned Member since:Jul 2013 Location:Michigan 4K collection:47 Blu-ray collection:624 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Oh great. My Sony Blu-ray player suddenly won't play Region A discs. This is fun. I've tried every possible thing that I can think of, and nothing works. I tried contacting Sony -- Oh, that's fun. Thankfully, the disc I want to watch, Ingrid Goes West, has a Digital Code. So I can watch it on my iMac. But my Blu-ray player not working is seriously bad. Obviously I clicked on something wrong. But I have no idea what it was, and no matter how hard I try to fix it, nothing goes right. Thankfully, I have vodka. Oh well. ETA: Oh, and I lost Twitter too. More fun. Last edited by AaronJ; 03-19-2018 at 05:58 AM.

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03-19-2018, 12:08 AM	#174841
Cremildo Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Jul 2011 Location:Brazil 4K collection:165 Blu-ray collection:1051 Trading Score:51	T2 is better and more influential than lots of films that have been given the wacky C treatment. Not sure why it'd be such a travesty having it in the collection.

03-19-2018, 12:46 AM	#174843
CyberpunkCentral Banned Member since:Apr 2009 Blu-ray reviews:6	I heard mixed things about the T2 UHD release. Can anyone explain to me what exactly is the problem?

03-19-2018, 01:14 AM	#174846
javy Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2015 Location:Synecdoche, New York 4K collection:97 Blu-ray collection:2645 DVD collection:120 Trading Score:78	I would be down with a T2 Criterion release. Cause then maybe they could pull some strings and include the Guns N' Roses You Could Be Mine video in HD. And maybe even give the film a proper transfer.

03-19-2018, 01:21 AM	#174847
stonesfan129 Special Member Member since:Jun 2016 Location:Wisconsin Blu-ray collection:122 DVD collection:10 Trading Score:2	From the reviews I've read of the Blu-rays of Terminator 2, it was the victim of heavy-handed DNR by James Cameron. It will probably never happen, but here's to hoping.

03-19-2018, 01:22 AM	#174848
MifuneFan Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:New York City 4K collection:27 Blu-ray collection:1143 Trading Score:69	T2 is from Lionsgate, so it's never happening.

03-19-2018, 01:37 AM	#174849
DaBargainHunta Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:May 2011 Location:Parts Unknown - because I blabbed about Mars! Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Trading Score:30	T2 would not do well for Criterion anyway. There have been multiple $5 Blu-ray releases of it already. Who would pay $20-$40 for it? Very few people IMO. I probably wouldn't. And I say that as an Arnie fan. With that said, I'd love to see some of James Cameron's unreleased Blus get the Criterion treatment.

03-19-2018, 03:48 AM	#174852
Markgway Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2013 Location:Scotland Trading Score:13	The Terminator - a classic with cultural impact - belongs to MGM (like Silence of the Lambs) so surely Criterion could sort something out? The 4K remaster with original mono soundtrack... and I'm already sold.

03-19-2018, 04:43 AM	#174854
jw007 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2012 Location:Between PA, NJ, FL, and the Middle East Blu-ray collection:628 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:5	I just cannot see James Cameron's blockbuster films EVER being in the Criterion Collection. One can dream, but it ain't happening boys. He's too big for Criterion.

03-19-2018, 03:09 PM	#174860
ravenus Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Dec 2010 Location:India Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:6 Blu-ray collection:1205 DVD collection:144 Blu-ray reviews: 184 Trading Score:8	There would be no benefit to Criterion releasing James Cameron movies (other than maybe Piranha II) because Cameron is already personally involved in the release of most of his films. Do people here really think that Criterion (which bowed to Michael Mann's revisionist grading for Thief and Vittorio Storaro's Univisium AR for Last Emperor) is going to stand up to Cameron and say, "Hey Jim, we know you personally supervised the new sound mix but we're going to insist on adding the original mono mix. And would someone call George and tell him to hand over the reels of those unaltered Star Wars versions, we've had enough of his crap."

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