"Club Penton" - Ask questions to Hollywood insider "Penton-Man"

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by mhafner

The technical term for what they do is 'temporal filtering'..................

If you know me by now, you should know that I know what it is.
Esp. since restoration has increasingly been shifting from a lab process to digital solutions.

And what they (Digital Images) do, was last done on the Blu-ray title, Monty Python's Life of Brian if you would like to examine a real-world example of this mystical process…………..unless Mr. Harris can answer Rob Tomlin’s post # 3706 with a more current example available on Blu-ray now.

[Penton-Man]

Deci, if you’re reading this……………….
I need some kind of contact information (cell phone, etc.) from you today as I have no way of reaching you.
See if you can PM me on this forum before the day is out.

I'll try to check back later around lunch.

[WickyWoo]

C’mon Wicky, these people are adults, not children.
Plus, I know for a fact that there is no Fox/MGM policy to intentionally grain reduce material *to cater to the uninformed, uneducated masses that love the NFL Sunday afternoon video look*.

Penton, I know that Fox has great people working there

I'm more worried about the suits at the top, which as you know are the people behind OTHER DNR initiatives to give Joe Sixpack "what he wants". If they have these letters, they can wave them in faces.

Trying to head things off at the pass more than anything

Peter Staddon put a lot of great people in a Fox during his time there, and Steve Feldstein has certainly continued his work

[Robert Siegel]

Ok I am going to probably take alot of h*ll for this, but I think Patton looks beautiful and has never looked better. My opinion is that I hope Fox continues to do what they are doing. I applaud the efforts on Longest Day, Sand Pebbles and Patton from Fox. These are gorgeous transfers and I am very happy they were able to make them look like they do, and I hope future classics from Fox are done exactly the same way! I understand the grain issue very well, but personally after viewing these movies, which look brand new, I find I prefer exactly what was released!!! I do not however agree with other types of DNR such as edge enhancement, ect.

They have also presented beautifully remastered soundtracks in DTS MA showing how good the sound department at Fox actually was at the time. Listening to these movies in lossless sound is a very big thrill!

[BluDomain]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

....I'm more worried about the suits at the top, which as you know are the people behind OTHER DNR initiatives to give Joe Sixpack "what he wants". If they have these letters, they can wave them in faces.
Trying to head things off at the pass more than anything

There is nothing like creating dischord between "The Suits"
and "The Other People" to delay decisions to release other
catalog titles. We may just end up not getting anything.

Those "Letters" can work both ways. Some people just
don't feel the need to post on internet forums to counter
attact. Thanks for the address. I liked "Patton" and wrote
a letter thanking them for the prestine release of an old
classic in keeping with technological advances of 2008.
At least there will be one letter to wave back in their faces
from an under thirty fan.

[WickyWoo]

Those "Letters" can work both ways. Some people just
don't feel the need to post on internet forums to counter
attact. Thanks for the address. I liked "Patton" and wrote
a letter thanking them for the prestine release of an old
classic in keeping with technological advances of 2008.
At least there will be one letter to wave back in their faces
from an under thirty fan.

Who says I'm any older than you are?

Heck, MaxPower feels the same way and he's 21....

[hollywoodguy]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Who says I'm any older than you are?

Let's see, you actually care about the original BSG, but you don't think Connery is the best Bond. I'd say 30-35?

[WickyWoo]

Let's see, you actually care about the original BSG, but you don't think Connery is the best Bond. I'd say 30-35?

Close enough

The fact I think Dalton is the best isn't because he was my first, it's because he's closest to the books

[Robert Siegel]

Originally Posted by BluDomain

I liked "Patton" and wrote
a letter thanking them for the prestine release of an old
classic in keeping with technological advances of 2008.
At least there will be one letter to wave back in their faces
from an under thirty fan.

Ditto, did the same thing myself, though I am over 30 hehe.

[tvted]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Close enough

The fact I think Dalton is the best isn't because he was my first, it's because he's closest to the books

Having read most of the books I agree totally. Its nice to know that I no longer have to hold my head low when the "Best Bond" is being discussed. Dalton brought the about to tip into insanity characteristic that you would think a character so used to living on and addicted to the edge might have.

ted

[mhafner]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

If you know me by now, you should know that I know what it is.

I'm not writing exclusively for you here.

[mikey p]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

A casual reader to some of these forums/blogs would have the impression by now that Patton is one slimy plasticized mess that flows from the left side of your screen to the right side, continuously during the Blu-ray playback.

This case reminds me of the SD DVD, North by Northwest, at the time it was restored/released, there was some talk about it to this end, back then. In either case these movies stand on their own, not the restore/transfer process. It's like the film does not look real for some reason. This is only IMHO, and this most likely was not a good way to describe how these films looked to me watching them, as I truely like them both. Thanks.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by mikey p

This case reminds me of the SD DVD, North by Northwest, at the time it was restored/released, there was some talk about it to this end, back then. In either case these movies stand on their own, not the restore/transfer process. It's like the film does not look real for some reason. This is only IMHO, and this most likely was not a good way to describe how these films looked to me watching them, as I truely like them both. Thanks.

I love movies so much that I probably only draw the line on not watching them on the tiny SD screens they have on jet planes.
I watch the best soccer players in the world perform in the best league in the world on SD routinely, because that’s all I can get.

There are always going to be some anomalous cases out there. With the internet, sometimes things go beyond genuine feelings about a topic to sanctimonious soap-boxing.........mhafner aside, as he had this battle with the colorists back in the day.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by mhafner

I'm not writing exclusively for you here.

Then you should have posted it on HTF to help him out.
I would have thought that he would have at least called Mike I. at Digital Images to come up with an answer to my last question regarding grain and detail.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Penton, I know that Fox has great people working there

I'm more worried about the suits at the top..........

Well, the grain-less “suit” that you’re referring to does not work at Fox Studios anyway.
Do you want me to be more specific for the folks?
He’s a non-factor at this time anyway and only of interest for a historical perspective.

What makes you think that the “suits at the top” at Fox Studios are predisposed to embracing policies and procedures involving excessive post processing of any type?
There are no “suits at the 'very' top” at Fox that are so inclined.

[WickyWoo]

What makes you think that the “suits at the top” at Fox Studios are predisposed to embracing policies and procedures involving excessive post processing of any type?
There are no “suits at the 'very' top” at Fox that are so inclined.

You are correct...for the moment.

With non-artist people running things many places (like the record industry was ruined), I have to run on the premise that the focus group is more powerful than the enthusiast., and be pleasantly suprised when I'm wrong

So that's also why I said that people need to write letters to tell them what they're doing RIGHT as well as wrong. Cheer the good, and build up a record of consumer satisfaction so if an unfriendly exec comes in somewhere, it's building more firewalls between us and smoothie city.

I'm less worried these days about the grainless suit and his acolytes with an agenda, than clueless focus-followers thinking they're giving the customer what they want

Either way, I'd like to publically thank Penton for the efforts he's made on our behalf to try to find out what went on, and for his continuing efforts even post war to keep us all in the loop on a virtually daily basis.

[frank_t]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Who says I'm any older than you are?

Heck, MaxPower feels the same way and he's 21....

he's 21?

thanks. now i feel old

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Either way, I'd like to publically thank Penton for the efforts he's made on our behalf to try to find out what went on, and for his continuing efforts even post war to keep us all in the loop on a virtually daily basis.

Your welcome.
Remember you can always be ahead of the curve and visit here first to get “official” reliable information........
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=2038

or wait almost 3 months later after a catastrophic event, for much of the same thing on Reuters (scroll down to the paragraph entitled “A key element to the preservation efforts at Hollywood studios”) –

http://www.reuters.com/article/indus...44833720080606

[frank_t]

penton -

please pass along to paidgeek (if he's still around) a thanks to sony for Baron Munchausen. i suspect it was not a stellar seller, but a fine blu release for a movie i'd wager was not in the best of shape.

thoroughly enjoyed this on blu, loved the artwork for the sleeve, but the real gem is the misadventures making-of.

i really wish ALL movies had this kind of special feature - found the 1+ hour of it perhaps more engrossing than the movie itself

i generally don't care for commentaries during the feature itself; but this type of special feature is the best in my book. loved the brutal honesty of the producers and gilliam himself, including robin williams et al.

once comment -- please ask the studios to enable the MENU function to bypass the commercials. if the commercials have to be there, at least let us skip them to the main menu instead of having to fwd through all of them (or chapter skip). this reminds me of the nonsense disney used to pull.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by frank_t

penton -

please pass along to paidgeek

That's an easy one.
Just done in 1 minute with this thing they call e-mail for those computer savy people like Wicky.