HDR Discussion Thread

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

This HDR thread is certainly "all-dressed" ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xQi...ature=youtu.be

Is that you, Bob?
I also noticed le chien in the backgroud, so since today is National Bring Your Dog to Work Day, I’ll leave you with this, as one of my colleagues posted a pic of his best friend there - https://www.instagram.com/explore/ta...workday/?hl=en

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

You know my stance on it, unless the ZD9 blows up tomorrow then I'm not budging.

And BTW, I completely agree with your man on how HDR has transformed my viewing experience. Some may think he's blowing it out of all proportion, comparing it to the jump from B&W to colour, but I've made similar bold claims as to how much it's impacted upon me: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...t#post15574158

I also agree with him on the AI thing: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...i#post16496646. There are absolutely some areas where it can make inroads but will the day come that a movie will be completely graded by an algorithm? Dunno.

Good someone red the post, he's only one of the best colorists in the world.

[Penton-Man]

Heads-up to all you diehard Netflix fans, this year, LG didn’t make the list…..https://devices.netflix.com/en/recommendedtv/2019/

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Heads-up

To all you diehard smart phone users, PSA of the Day, avoid the horn….

Hunching Over Phones Could Cause Horn-Like Bone Growth | NBC Nightly News - YouTube

dem dogs in the above post are smarter in some ways than us humans

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Is that you, Bob?
I also noticed le chien in the backgroud, so since today is National Bring Your Dog to Work Day, I’ll leave you with this, as one of my colleagues posted a pic of his best friend there - https://www.instagram.com/explore/ta...workday/?hl=en

I'm much younger, and better looking. ...Make that in the opposite direction and you're cookin'.

* I love dogs, and hot dogs.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Heads-up to all you diehard Netflix fans, this year, LG didn’t make the list…..https://devices.netflix.com/en/recommendedtv/2019/

Speaking of Netflix, they came up with a "vibrator" app to watch some of their HDR shows.
• https://mobilesyrup.com/2019/06/20/n...hack-day-2019/

It doesn't come with a pole.

[Waboman]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

All this wooden pole talk and I think the metal post is feeling rather underappreciated. After all, it did have a front row seat for Tom and Jen’s (hopefully to become) iconic ride for Top Gun: Maverick despite the fact that no paparazzi nor photo agency could capture it, nevertheless, again exclusively offered on this thread with description like so –

Here's a funny anecdote our older members, Maverick and the metal pole can relate to. I dug out, dusted off and connected our old Wii tonight. My youngest has never played it. So we played several games of bowling, tennis and baseball. Then I started feeling this pain in my shoulder. I actually threw out my shoulder playing Wii sports. WTF!? Family is still laughing at me. It hurts. Lol. So now I'm going to make a cocktail, retire to my fortress of solitude, lick my wounds and watch something in HDR. #GettingOld

[Geoff D]

Shoulda warmed up first, Wabo.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Waboman

Here's a funny anecdote our older members, Maverick and the metal pole can relate to. I dug out, dusted off and connected our old Wii tonight. My youngest has never played it. So we played several games of bowling, tennis and baseball. Then I started feeling this pain in my shoulder. I actually threw out my shoulder playing Wii sports. WTF!? Family is still laughing at me. It hurts. Lol. So now I'm going to make a cocktail, retire to my fortress of solitude, lick my wounds and watch something in HDR. #GettingOld

Yeah, these young whipper-snappers don’t realize how good they’ve got it with their virgin bodies and near perfect vision - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...n#post16463278 .

I have a bulging disc in my lower back that sits close to a spinal nerve. Once while in Home Depot I bent over to pick up a bolt I’d dropped on the floor. That action irritated the nerve and I dropped to the floor in SEVERE pain like being shot in the back. Finally got up and walked out stooped waaaay over like a guerilla in order to try to lessen the pain by positioning. Then with some shoppers looking at me like WTF and someone’s dog barking at me as if I was doing something I shouldn’t be doing, added an embarrassment factor to the whole painful incident.

Luckily my wife was with me because it all would have been worse if I had to drive myself home.

P.S.
I left the bolt on the floor.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I also agree with him on the AI thing: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...i#post16496646. There are absolutely some areas where it can make inroads but will the day come that a movie will be completely graded by an algorithm? Dunno.

Netflix is using AI to compress their files from the studio masters. Dolby has plug-ins to generate Atmos tracks from 5.1 tracks. It appears to me anything that will save $$$ will be used.

Lets hope humans continue grade movies but I will not be surprised if DaVinci Resolve 17 or 18 has provisions for “Auto” grading. IMO, a day.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

...Science, music, Maverick, cinematography, photography and HDR ...

and regarding science -

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

....given how it’s been presented and makes sense….https://www.dropbox.com/s/auy2mv7mm4...Final.pdf?dl=0

^ has now been accepted to the upcoming SMPTE tech conference in October - https://www.smpte.org/news-events/ne...nce-exhibition

Bob, I missed who made the 10,000th post for this thread. Was it you, David, Geoff, Wabo, Wendell, etc. ??? That was a milestone that doesn't come around every day.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I have a bulging disc in my lower back that sits close to a spinal nerve.

Sorry to hear that PM, would a specialty back brace help? Dem years keep rolling on by, been here almost 13 years.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

...Science,

Reminds me, I wonder exactly how it was determined by those investigators funded by Samsung Display that perceived 8K image quality increased 30% over 4K (https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...k#post16516564 ). Did they utilize a standardized subjective assessment method like SAMVIQ - https://www.itu.int/dms_pubrec/itu-r...1-I!!PDF-E.pdf to come up with that 30% figure or what?

Did anyone ask at that recent 8K summit?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Netflix is using AI to compress their files from the studio masters. Dolby has plug-ins to generate Atmos tracks from 5.1 tracks. It appears to me anything that will save $$$ will be used.

Lets hope humans continue grade movies but I will not be surprised if DaVinci Resolve 17 or 18 has provisions for “Auto” grading. IMO, a day.

For meat and potatoes technical stuff I'm not surprised at all, ditto for quick Atmos or HDR upconversions, but the actual creative decisions at source will still come down to what the filmmakers specifically want to see/hear from it, so as long as humans are still making films then the human factor will never be removed completely.

Given that grading is sometimes done by the filmmaker setting a 'look' on a reference frame which the colourist then goes away to match for the whole scene then AI could aid that kind of process, particularly once it learns what X filmmaker likes to see, just as flesh and blood colourists develop a strong working relationship with certain directors or DPs over time, e.g. Stephen Nakamura and Ridley Scott. But even if the colourist is put out of a job by the grading equivalent of HAL 9000 (which will hopefully be slightly less murderous) the director will still be there to guide it.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Sorry to hear that PM, would a specialty back brace help? Dem years keep rolling on by, been here almost 13 years.

doubtful,
probably only surgery.....as if I need yet another. So I just deal with it when it occasionally happens (every few years or so when I tweak the spine just a certain way).

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

And BTW, I completely agree with your man on how HDR has transformed my viewing experience. Some may think he's blowing it out of all proportion, comparing it to the jump from B&W to colour, but I've made similar bold claims as to how much it's impacted upon me: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...t#post15574158

as I recall, a few of us crystal ballers have, from 2014 -
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...o#post12419744

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

It doesn't come with a pole.

Unless they parachute in or something, all the celebs generally walk in from the back of the civic center and use the service elevator. The pole won't fit in said elevator.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

That was a milestone that doesn't come around every day.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ar#post9754213
I’ll always remember that ST 2084 (PQ) post ^ as it was made on the same day we set a record for the most viewers ever here at Blu-ray.com….Most users ever online was 27,716

And outta here by 10:OO A.M. to go riding. Carry on

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Bob, I missed who made the 10,000th post for this thread. Was it you, David, Geoff, Wabo, Wendell, etc. ??? That was a milestone that doesn't come around every day.

Only because you asked ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J3V...ature=youtu.be

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

I cannot wait to see what they do to with the Venice,

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post15560763

^ Flashback Friday, now illustrated in the cockpit, the optical block separated from the camera –>



For you camera geeks reading, people are rating the Venice at EI 400 with a latitude in the highlights of

or from a stabilized gimbal on a jet –

Cinejet by Helinet Aerial filming jet! DRONE ON STEROIDS - YouTube