4K Movies Releases

[Penton-Man]

Not that I’m unhappy with the outcome (as choice is good ) and call me a bit cynical in my older years but knowing how the *majors* and the *mini-majors* (Hollywood studios) are quite tight with the buck with little emotional attachment to anything beyond the $ sign and where one of the most often heard lines is “What’s in it for me?”…..it might have been more appropriate to have titled this particular article…
https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=14619 , instead -

“How Some Studios Will Do Anything To Woo Prominent Directors”

Other than film aficionados, who else made out well with this announcement?...well, the only film processing lab left in the Hollywood environs - http://www.fotokem.com/services/film_laboratory.php

[PeterTHX]

“How Some Studios Will Do Anything To Woe Prominent Directors”

Woe?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

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Woe?

sorry, not concentrating enough on my spelling for when I was typing, I was just given this news…
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/
slightly countered by this -
http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=SNE

P.S.
Since the above quote realtime, the following drop is what I was referring to at the time of posting yesterday - http://www.usnews.com/news/business/...ngs-disappoint

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Not that I’m unhappy with the outcome (as choice is good ) and call me a bit cynical in my older years but knowing how the *majors* and the *mini-majors* (Hollywood studios) are quite tight with the buck with little emotional attachment to anything beyond the $ sign and where one of the most often heard lines is “What’s in it for me?”…..it might have been more appropriate to have titled this particular article…
https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=14619 , instead -

“How Some Studios Will Do Anything To Woo Prominent Directors”

Other than film aficionados, who else made out well with this announcement?...well, the only film processing lab left in the Hollywood environs - http://www.fotokem.com/services/film_laboratory.php

Thank goodness for those directors!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by singhcr

Thank goodness for those directors!

“An ancient race” ….”Other mortals will be along and they’ll kill it off”
Harmonica (Charles Bronson)
Once Upon a Time in the West

Once Upon a Time in the West (6/8) Movie CLIP - What You're After (1968) HD - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I know of no scientific study that has measured the value in that fashion. You would have to rely on anecdotal evidence from fellow 4K tv owners.

What I can tell you is ….recognizing certain caveats or even possible limitations/flaws in previously presented European scientific testing, evidence has been presented that there is a statistically significant difference between 4K and 1080p and it has been measured in “grades” on a 5 point grade scale. 4K has been determined by such scientific testing to show a ½ grade difference better picture quality than 1080p at a 1.5 picture height screen-to-eye distance. Think of that sort of like 1080p being ‘good’ and 4K being ‘very good’.

Since it is assumed by investigators that many consumers will: 1. refuse to alter their current furniture arrangement to take full advantage of increased spatial resolution (4K), 2. won’t ever use larger desktop monitors in their offices/studies where they normally sit closer to the screen anyway, 3. not have any children who enjoy sitting on the floor closer to the TV to watch their favorite shows….testing was also done at the ‘normal’ seating position or screen-to-eye distance of 9 ft., with a 56” TV and at that distance, there was about a ¼ grade picture improvement for 4K source over 1080p source. Think of that sort of like the difference between ‘very good’ and ‘very, very good’.

2 caveats regarding the methodology which lead to the above results though -

1. This testing was done presenting scenes with uncompressed progressive source. It has been theorized (even conceded by the investigators themselves) that the improvement gap between 4K and HD might have been more significant if HEVC (or, for that matter, AVC) compressed contents had been used.

2. This was not a ‘side-by-side’ comparable 1080p display (less pixels) vs. a 4K display (more pixels). The 4K source was fed into a 4K tv….and… the 1080p source (downconverted from the same 4K source) was fed into the same 4K tv. Some people, such as Charles Poynton, believe that 4K tvs ‘work’ better than HD tvs because the 4K display pixels are so invisibly small that they don’t contribute any visible aliasing by themselves. So…in regards to those previous European tests, perhaps if a 4K display had been directly compared to a 1080p display; likewise, as in caveat #1, a larger improvement gap in picture quality difference may have been demonstrated between 4K and HD.

Anyway, for comparison purposes, other testing has shown HDR and HFR to offer a full grade improvement in picture quality, i.e. ‘good’ to excellent…independent of close or ‘typical’ viewing distances.

P.S. ‘Grades’ may seem a funky quality scale in comparison to a specific numerical value but there is some science behind it, see Fig. 6 around half way down the page in B.T.500-13…http://www.itu.int/dms_pubrec/itu-r/...1-I!!PDF-E.pdf

In a few weeks, Charles will be presenting a paper dealing with wide color gamut in Amsterdam….
http://www.ibc.org/page.cfm/action=S...D=66/listID=75

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

presenting a paper...

A little background on IBC Technical Papers (they are not ‘White Papers’ nor consumer magazine articles, etc.), there is a demanding peer review committee process on the pathway towards acceptance…

How are the Papers and Posters Assessed?
http://www.ibc.org/page.cfm/link=220

[Penton-Man]

“over 200 titles (and counting) finished as UHD IMFs”
http://www.ibc.org/page.cfm/Action=V...=2689486_21464

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Meanwhile, something to work by today….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPrtFxd9u9Y

The word is out….

Hot and humid this weekend so we’re headed on down to our place in S.D. I’ll let folks know if we see the surfin’ dog -
http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/...e-seen-n166271

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by singhcr

goodness

sing, my wife asked me to post this pic expressly for you –

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by singhcr

Thank goodness for those directors!

Looking back at the “annual Winter Olympics for Geeks”, in retrospect (listen to Christopher Nolan’s speech), I wonder whether this quip at the end….‘I personally am excited for the next 100 years of this work” …..was simply generic hopefulness or whether he already knew something at the time because it seems to me he’s got a little sly smirk on his face and had a *tell* hand gesture during saying that.

Sci-Tech Awards: Christopher Nolan - YouTube

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

sing, my wife asked me to post this pic expressly for you –

That is cuter than Shakira!
My fave picture of year!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

That is cuter than Shakira!
My fave picture of year!

Credit goes to someone who loves animals and emailed the pic to my wife who subsequently forwarded it to me when I informed her that sing is a fellow animal lover.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

the “annual Winter Olympics for Geeks”

For those not having the opportunity to attend, credit for the above ^ phrase goes to Josh
the Joker during his acceptance speech as part of the distinguished team who were awarded an Oscar for ASC-CDL….

Sci-Tech Awards: Joshua Pines, David Reisner, Lou Levinson, Curtis Clark, ASC, and David Register - YouTube

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Credit goes to someone who loves animals and emailed the pic to my wife who subsequently forwarded it to me when I informed her that sing is a fellow animal lover.

It's a beatiful shot. They both look blissfully happy, I just hope the dog is not dreaming about chasing cats!

I'm sure it applies to you too but it makes me yearn for my old buddy.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I'm sure it applies to you too but it makes me yearn for my old buddy.

Yeah . Pics like that fire certain synapses in my brain. It’s a double-edged sword for sure. The more you loved ‘em….the more you miss ‘em. She’s emailing this link to the CEO of her company today - http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...ndliest-722376

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

In a few weeks, Charles will be presenting a paper dealing with wide color gamut in Amsterdam….
http://www.ibc.org/page.cfm/action=S...D=66/listID=75

Color and HDR. An oversight by moi is that the paper is co-authored by Rutger Nijland and Jeroen Stessen (of xvYCC presentation fame - http://hopa.memberclicks.net/assets/...on_Stessen.ppt
who also should be given credit.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Color and HDR. An oversight by moi is that the paper is co-authored by Rutger Nijland and Jeroen Stessen (of xvYCC presentation fame - http://hopa.memberclicks.net/assets/...on_Stessen.ppt
who also should be given credit.

P.S. That’s a link to a Power Point presentation so you may have to copy the link address and open it in a new tab in order to view it.

[Penton-Man]

Credit goes to Robert for being a supporter

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Looking back at the “annual Winter Olympics for Geeks”, in retrospect (listen to Christopher Nolan’s speech), I wonder whether this quip at the end….‘I personally am excited for the next 100 years of this work” …..was simply generic hopefulness or whether he already knew something at the time because it seems to me he’s got a little sly smirk on his face and had a *tell* hand gesture during saying that.

Yep, he did have a bit of insider information, it seems.

It is fitting that he gave out the award on behalf of all the laboratory technicians and film chemists out there.