4K Movies Releases

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by penton-man

will do , dub, you still in the district, or do i tap a md. Zip code?

The new mantra is “hdr is in our dna” , thusly….
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...t#post11504832

dc

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by mrr1

These crap movie releases are not making me want to go out and buy a 4K player. Not at all. I cannot help but think back to how 'The Matrix' helped launch DVD in a BIG way. Maybe they should be trying to get some 4k releases of movies that still are not on Blu Ray to coincide with the player launch?

Wouldn't it be easier to launch UHD with titles such as 'True Lies' and 'The Abyss'

What year is it? 2003?

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by dubious

... and what are you going to do with it after you burn through those three mildly entertaining titles?

... and if you make to the twentieth viewing of Smurfs without smurfing your whole family, then maybe you are UHD worthy.

I can watch kingsman on repeat for a while, and x-men

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

I like that PQ expands the lower end of the dynamic range but it seems more likely to cause problems. PQ uses absolute brightness values so it would be easy to blast light at such a high level that it causes irritation or pain. HLG is a relative brightness system so you can simply set the peak brightness to a reasonable level depending on the viewing area...

I admit that the hybrid log-gamma content I’ve seen both in Europe and the U.S. has looked appealing but on the other hand, I also like the extra headroom and transfer curve that 2084 offers. For the sake of those not following, the human visual system isn’t equally sensitive to changes in light levels in the range from black to white. Theoretically, the best solution is a transfer curve where the noticeable difference in image resolution/quantization step are uniform to our eyes throughout the range of quantized steps from black to white, meaning one is using the luminance signal as efficiently as possible. which is termed the perceptual quantizer (PQ) of ST 2084.

But due to practical constraints and legacy issues, another approach is to choose a transfer function curve that goes part of the way to being a PQ curve but retains at least partly the shape of an SDR curve so it can be used on SDR or HDR sets without metadata, soooo we have the hybrid log-gamma (HLG) curve approach. HLG advocates touting other advantages to that system, as another Richard itemized in yellow color font here (starting on p.13) at conference at an academic venue, last Feb…. http://www.provision-itn.eu/fileadmi...ard_Salmon.pdf

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

I think it will take a few years to get a good idea of how well they will do since early adopters tend to be more forgiving of flaws than mainstream consumers (an example would be 3D TVs).

Before that, an independent non-profit group already has its sights on doing an HDR shootout (at a professional scientific testing level) with different displays and content coded with different standards. This should provide some guidance.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

the human visual system isn’t equally sensitive to changes in light levels

Sunday sermon….never take for granted what you have, for things can always become visually more challenging before a solution can be found to help rectify the situation, e.g. http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...300177059.html

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

dc

Brings back fond memories of the time I lived in Georgetown for several years.

[Penton-Man]

So, while we await the next 4K content to come down the pike, here’s a few clips to keep folks 4K occupied……
http://fourkay.cablelabs.com/

The following direct links are for search-free convenience to the HDR (PQ) downloads as seen in red font at the bottom right of each page -
http://fourkay.cablelabs.com/video/life-untouched/
http://fourkay.cablelabs.com/video/eldorado/

P.S. See Mike, I’m not forgetting your passion(s) ^ (HDR) and RED cameras.

[motorheadache95]

Not that I'm optimistic about this format being a success, but every home media release had kind of a spotty launch. Couple of brand new titles, couple of random catalog titles, and at least one or two kids movies.

I still remember some electronics trade show where they were promoting HD-DVD before release, and one of their primary "show-off" titles was Doom. Freaking Doom!

I remember somebody mentioning that they purposely release some of their mediocre catalog at launch because they know early adopters will buy it anyway just to have content and show it off. For example, I remember a lot of people picking up titles on Blu-Ray early on like Ghost Rider and Swordfish. Not because they liked the movie, but because it was cool "demo material."

Remember when everyone was picking up the movie "Click" because it was the first BD-50 release?

[Derb]

Freaking Doom looked good to!

I bought Click & my only memory of that is it had troubles loading on the launch Sammy. After an hour I got it to play. Oh & Swordfish was a fun movie. Honestly it didn't look great throughout Imo.

Pirates of the Caribbean 2 & King Kong are the last movies released I remember to have seen that are/were flawless. Dunno if these two were 2K or 4K, I'd still buy the upconvert.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

....Remember when everyone was picking up the movie "Click" because it was the first BD-50 release?

I do

[Penton-Man]

Dex - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post11510463
The clip at far left, middle row is particularly for you….

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

So, while we await the next 4K content to come down the pike, here’s a few clips to keep folks 4K occupied……
http://fourkay.cablelabs.com/

I guess you can always hope they’re playing on crumb rubber turf.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

So, while we await the next 4K content to come down the pike, here’s a few clips to keep folks 4K occupied……
http://fourkay.cablelabs.com/

The following direct links are for search-free convenience to the HDR (PQ) downloads as seen in red font at the bottom right of each page -
http://fourkay.cablelabs.com/video/life-untouched/
http://fourkay.cablelabs.com/video/eldorado/

P.S. See Mike, I’m not forgetting your passion(s) ^ (HDR) and RED cameras.

Which is here...

DCP for THE HUNGER GAMES: MOCKINGJAY PART 2
Image Format: 4096x1716 (scope)
File Size: 103 GB
Audio Format: 5.1/7.1/AURO
(file name…MockingjayPT2_FTR-2_S_EN-XX-CCAP_US-13_51-HI-VI-DBOX_4K_LION_20151020_DTB_IOP_OV CPL: 2dbc572b-6737-4912-950c-f396a5d5f9fc)

[Geoff D]

103GB, that's pretty lean isn't it?

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

103GB, that's pretty lean isn't it?

Stupidly so, like 2k 2d lean

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

103GB, that's pretty lean isn't it?

You be the judge.

The feature run time of Mockingjay-Part 2 is 2:16:51.
For comparison, for Legend, which also opens Friday and was also shot with Arri Alexa XTs, the run time is 2:11:41 (over 5 min. shorter) and its DCP credentials are:

Image Format: 2048x858 (scope)
File Size: 194 GB
Audio Format: 5.1

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

file name…MockingjayPT2_FTR-2_S_EN-XX-CCAP_US-13_51-HI-VI-DBOX_4K_LION_20151020_DTB_IOP_OV CPL: 2dbc572b-6737-4912-950c-f396a5d5f9fc

b.t.w., D-Cinema people can see from the file name above ^ that it signifies the rather typical interop DCP as the transition to SMPTE DCPs by the studios remains a slow process; however, I can inform you that next January, Walt Disney Studios plans to issue (the finer) SMPTE DCP format for a movie about the Coast Guard rescuing shipmates from the sea.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

You be the judge.

The feature run time of Mockingjay-Part 2 is 2:16:51.
For comparison, for Legend, which also opens Friday and was also shot with Arri Alexa XTs, the run time is 2:11:41 (over 5 min. shorter) and its DCP credentials are:

Image Format: 2048x858 (scope)
File Size: 194 GB
Audio Format: 5.1

Daaaaayum. Lean it is! But what's the difference between the interop DCP and the SMPTE, I recall you mentioning it before but what actual advantages will the SMPTE bring?

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Daaaaayum. Lean it is! But what's the difference between the interop DCP and the SMPTE, I recall you mentioning it before but what actual advantages will the SMPTE bring?

More Lionsgate banding for Geoff!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Daaaaayum. Lean it is! But what's the difference between the interop DCP and the SMPTE, I recall you mentioning it before but what actual advantages will the SMPTE bring?

https://www.smpte.org/sites/default/...V5-handout.pdf