Sony UBP-X800 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[Woochifer]

Originally Posted by ChicagoMike

Audio on movies and CDs sounds perfect. It was only when I tried to play an SACD disk that I couldn't get any audio out of the sound bar. But strangely, if I turned off the sound bar, the TV speakers played the audio from the SACD. How is that possible?

If the X800 detects a source that doesn't natively support DSD, it should output PCM. That might be why you can hear the SACD through the TV.

You might not hear the SACD through the soundbar because there might be a handshake issue with DSD.

I run my X800 through a Yamaha RX-A1030, but it will not detect the DSD bitstream if I switch over to the home screen or play a movie before going back to SACD playback. I have to switch sources on the receiver before the DSD bitstream will reconnect. I got tired of this, and just had the X800 output the DSD data as PCM. Works every time.

Next time you hear silence from the soundbar, you should try switching to a different source and then switch back. If that works, then it's probably a handshake issue and you'll need to force the X800 to output the SACD using PCM.

[eddievanhalen]

I have many UHD HDR MKV files with high bitrate (UHD BD remuxes on an MKV container) and I have no issues playing them on the X-800 except that it doesn't play Dolby TrueHD files on an MKV container but it's not hard to convert Dolby TrueHD to DTS-HD Master Audio having the right tools...

[Member-167298]

Watching the new Suspiria Blu-ray and my player just randomly shut off. This is the second time this has happened (the first being in the middle of watching the Raw Blu-ray). Is this a known problem? Should I exchange my player for a new one?

[DJR662]

The only problem I'm still having occasionally, is that after inserting a disc the screen goes black and stays black. Have to eject the disc and insert it again before it starts playing.

[roxyv]

It was mentioned somewhere in this thread about setting a setting to DIRECT, I was going through my players' settings and I couldn't find it, can someone shed light? Thanks!

[itrocks4u]

IS there any update on whether this will get Dolby Vision?

I'm thinking between Sony and LG UP970. LG supports both HDR and DV. Thoughts?

[cochon]

Originally Posted by PrestonXI

Watching the new Suspiria Blu-ray and my player just randomly shut off. This is the second time this has happened (the first being in the middle of watching the Raw Blu-ray). Is this a known problem? Should I exchange my player for a new one?

Hard to tell, did you press any command on the remote of any component connected with like receiver or Tv just before it switched off, also is this a Us player or International version (question marks not working atm)

Originally Posted by roxyv

It was mentioned somewhere in this thread about setting a setting to DIRECT, I was going through my players' settings and I couldn't find it, can someone shed light? Thanks!

The option will only appear while playing a disc Options/video settings/direct.

"edit" but once you select direct it should remain that way, you don't need to change it every time you insert a disc.

[cochon]

Originally Posted by itrocks4u

IS there any update on whether this will get Dolby Vision?

I'm thinking between Sony and LG UP970. LG supports both HDR and DV. Thoughts?

This is an excellent player at a lower price that you would expect for the quality but all the information at this point indicate this Sony player will not be upgraded to DV.

[Fat Phil]

Need a little X800 audio advice here -

My Denon receiver had trouble relaying the 4K signal to the TV when the TV's HDMI ports are set to 'enhanced' - just outputs as snow. It's fine when when they're set to 'standard' and displays as 4K/24p HDR - looks fantastic but ideally I want enhanced soooo..

I thought the easiest thing to do would be to send video straight to the TV so I can have the HDMI port 'enhanced' and send the audio to the receiver via the second 'audio only' HDMI port on the X800.

Trouble is I can't get any sound from the receiver when I do this. Everything else works Roku, Blu-ray player, even the X800 when both video and audio are sent through the same cable so the receiver itself is fine. Tried different ports and cables plus the usual cursing and throwing things

My two questions for anyone who has the time to answer are -
1) Are there any settings on the X800 or receiver that I might need to adjust when utilising the 'audio only' output?
(FYI, I've tried forcing audio output to HDMI 2 rather than leaving it on Auto)

2) If I do leave my HDMI ports on the TV set to 'standard' what exactly am I missing out on?

UBP-X800
XE659005
Denon X520BT
Premium Certified Fancy Schmancy Expensivo Cables

[Member-167298]

Originally Posted by cochon

Hard to tell, did you press any command on the remote of any component connected with like receiver or Tv just before it switched off, also is this a Us player or International version (question marks not working atm)

I did not press anything. Both times the player just turned off.

I am going to try to watch at least two full movies after work today and see if the problem repeats.

[Member-167298]

Originally Posted by itrocks4u

IS there any update on whether this will get Dolby Vision?

I'm thinking between Sony and LG UP970. LG supports both HDR and DV. Thoughts?

DO. NOT. BUY. THE. LG.

Have you ever read "The Tell-Tale Heart" by Edgar Allan Poe? The kind of madness in that story will become very real for you once you hear the whirring of the LG.

[Woochifer]

Originally Posted by itrocks4u

IS there any update on whether this will get Dolby Vision?

I'm thinking between Sony and LG UP970. LG supports both HDR and DV. Thoughts?

Nothing announced about DV on the X800. Don't count on it ever happening, since the flurry of new product announcements at CES is just around the corner. At CES, Sony could well announce the X800's successor, which will almost certainly add DV support.

Even that LG does not currently have DV, after they pulled the firmware update that was briefly available back in September. If you want DV right now, the ONLY options come from Oppo.

Aside from the promise of adding DV support at a future date, there's really nothing else that the UP-970 has over the X800.

The X800 is far more ruggedly constructed, it supports more audio and video formats, and it runs fast and quiet (lot of complaints on the 970 board about excessive vibration and noise coming from the drive). Wirecutter's comparison test of every 4k UHD BD player on the market (as of October) concluded that the X800's image quality was second only to the Oppo, and ranked the X800 as the top overall pick.

[cochon]

Originally Posted by PrestonXI

I did not press anything. Both times the player just turned off.

I am going to try to watch at least two full movies after work today and see if the problem repeats.

You did not say ifwe are talking about the international version as that has an auto standby function but i don't think thats the problem. You may have a faulty unit but there is something else to take into account. Is the player on top of the amp or anything producing a lot of heat? If so put it somewhere else, heat from the amp can cause problems.

[cochon]

Originally Posted by Fat Phil

Need a little X800 audio advice here -

My Denon receiver had trouble relaying the 4K signal to the TV when the TV's HDMI ports are set to 'enhanced' - just outputs as snow. It's fine when when they're set to 'standard' and displays as 4K/24p HDR - looks fantastic but ideally I want enhanced soooo..

I thought the easiest thing to do would be to send video straight to the TV so I can have the HDMI port 'enhanced' and send the audio to the receiver via the second 'audio only' HDMI port on the X800.

Trouble is I can't get any sound from the receiver when I do this. Everything else works Roku, Blu-ray player, even the X800 when both video and audio are sent through the same cable so the receiver itself is fine. Tried different ports and cables plus the usual cursing and throwing things

My two questions for anyone who has the time to answer are -
1) Are there any settings on the X800 or receiver that I might need to adjust when utilising the 'audio only' output?
(FYI, I've tried forcing audio output to HDMI 2 rather than leaving it on Auto)

2) If I do leave my HDMI ports on the TV set to 'standard' what exactly am I missing out on?

UBP-X800
XE659005
Denon X520BT
Premium Certified Fancy Schmancy Expensivo Cables

It should be fairly straight forward, there might be asetting on your receiver thats preventing the signal from passing through or the receiver is faulty.

I haven't read much about the enhanced, I think but I can be wrong it allows 4K 60fps signal and 4:4:4 so most people might not miss on much but there is no reason why you should set it to standard ( also if my memory is right that applies to only two inputs in the sony tv). I have mine in enhanced with no problem, I had used before the two outputs in the player (old receiver). Now I have a new receiver and I use only one output. In either case had no problem.

[Fat Phil]

Originally Posted by cochon

It should be fairly straight forward, there might be asetting on your receiver thats preventing the signal from passing through or the receiver is faulty.

I haven't read much about the enhanced, I think but I can be wrong it allows 4K 60fps signal and 4:4:4 so most people might not miss on much but there is no reason why you should set it to standard ( also if my memory is right that applies to only two inputs in the sony tv). I have mine in enhanced with no problem, I had used before the two outputs in the player (old receiver). Now I have a new receiver and I use only one output. In either case had no problem.

Yup, it's only HDMI 2 & 3 that can be set to enhanced on most Sony TVs.

I'll take a deep breath and have another go tomorrow. I shall not be defeated! Sometimes just taking a step back helps more than anything else. Clear my head and start fresh.

[Enigmatical]

Fnr off
Bnr off
Mnr off
Contrast 1
Brightness 0
Color 1
Hue 0

These are video settings I have. Don't know what fnr bnr etc is and what ideal settings should be. Any help??
Thx

[cochon]

Originally Posted by Fat Phil

Yup, it's only HDMI 2 & 3 that can be set to enhanced on most Sony TVs.

I'll take a deep breath and have another go tomorrow. I shall not be defeated! Sometimes just taking a step back helps more than anything else. Clear my head and start fresh.

yes taking a step back and looking at it from a fresh perspective is the best. Insist around the Denon menu and check specs as some inputs of the receiver might be limited to onlycertain signals.

Originally Posted by Enigmatical

Fnr off
Bnr off
Mnr off
Contrast 1
Brightness 0
Color 1
Hue 0

These are video settings I have. Don't know what fnr bnr etc is and what ideal settings should be. Any help??
Thx

Most people hate them as they fix?? one thing and they introduce 100 new problems. That is the reason Direct is the best option unless there is a good reason to apply any other option on that menu.

Frame noise reduction,
Block noise reduction,
Mosquito noise reduction,

the rest is quite self explanatory

[ChicagoMike]

Originally Posted by cochon

I use mine through a receiver and I have no problem just using one HDMI connection.

How is it connected? From player a cable to TV and from TV wireless or cable to soundbar? I presume you have the TV on all the time while testing.

My current audio settings on the player are: Just played a SACD

D audio output-auto
DSD out-off
BD mix-off
DTS NEO- off
48kHZ
Dsee-off
DRC -auto
Down mix - surround

Let me know if you had any different and it works with my settings but I think it'll be related to settings on TV or bar

I just set all settings as you have, and no luck. I am confused, because the tv shows DSD 2ch 2.8MHz/1 bit, even though I turned off DSD out.

[ChicagoMike]

Originally Posted by cochon

I use mine through a receiver and I have no problem just using one HDMI connection.

How is it connected? From player a cable to TV and from TV wireless or cable to soundbar? I presume you have the TV on all the time while testing.

My current audio settings on the player are: Just played a SACD

D audio output-auto
DSD out-off
BD mix-off
DTS NEO- off
48kHZ
Dsee-off
DRC -auto
Down mix - surround

Let me know if you had any different and it works with my settings but I think it'll be related to settings on TV or bar

Ok, this is one of those things where the more I read, the less I understand about the technology! I have a Sony TV (XBR-65X850D), Sony Sound Bar (HT-CT790), and the 4K player (UBP-X800). I KNOW these three components must be designed to play nice with each other! Right?

I’m second guessing how I should connect the X800 player. Should it connect to the HDMI input on the TV (enhanced, of course), or should it be connected to the HDMI in of the sound bar HT-CT790? Why is this so difficulty? 😜

[Cortiz]

Originally Posted by ChicagoMike

Ok, this is one of those things where the more I read, the less I understand about the technology! I have a Sony TV (XBR-65X850D), Sony Sound Bar (HT-CT790), and the 4K player (UBP-X800). I KNOW these three components must be designed to play nice with each other! Right?



I’m second guessing how I should connect the X800 player. Should it connect to the HDMI input on the TV (enhanced, of course), or should it be connected to the HDMI in of the sound bar HT-CT790? Why is this so difficulty? [emoji12]

The CT790 has 4K HDR passthrough. So you should be able to connect an HDMI cable from the X800 to the CT790 HDMI in, then another HDMI cable from the CT790 HDMI out into the TV HDMI in (make sure you are using the tv's HDMI input that has ARC)Be sure to go into the CT790 system setting's menu and change the HDMI output to enhance as well as the TV's.


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