Sony UBP-X800 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[Blu Balls]

My OLED settings are;
Oled Light - 57
Contrast - 80
Color - 42 (Wide)
Brightness - 53
Sharpness - 17
Tint - 0
Color Temp - -4

These are typically what I use for broadcast tv and movies. Sometimes I tweak the settings (color especially) depending on what I am watching. I turn off noise reduction, tru motion, and all that stuff, but I do set Dynamic Contrast to low. The settings on the UBP X800 are all set to Auto. I tried to take some comparison photos of the opening scene of Baby Driver with my iphone, but neither picture looked accurate. I could best describe it as, the blu ray looks like Baby is in a shiny, bright red car on a sunny day, and the 4K looks like he is in a dark red car on a cloudy day in November. Some may say that the 4K looks more neutral or natural. I just think it lacks the sharpness and pop of the standard blu. The difference is quite considerable.

[Brahby]

Originally Posted by Blu Balls

My OLED settings are;
Oled Light - 57
Contrast - 80
Color - 42 (Wide)
Brightness - 53
Sharpness - 17
Tint - 0
Color Temp - -4

These are typically what I use for broadcast tv and movies. Sometimes I tweak the settings (color especially) depending on what I am watching. I turn off noise reduction, tru motion, and all that stuff, but I do set Dynamic Contrast to low. The settings on the UBP X800 are all set to Auto. I tried to take some comparison photos of the opening scene of Baby Driver with my iphone, but neither picture looked accurate. I could best describe it as, the blu ray looks like Baby is in a shiny, bright red car on a sunny day, and the 4K looks like he is in a dark red car on a cloudy day in November. Some may say that the 4K looks more neutral or natural. I just think it lacks the sharpness and pop of the standard blu. The difference is quite considerable.

So your standard settings are pretty similar to mine. My contrast is down a bit and I keep my color at 50 and normal. I know there is a youtube video that states normal is the correct choice for accuracy. I actually just got Baby Driver the other day and it was an instant regret in terms of presentation. It was not a good looking 4k film to me. Still shouldnt give the comparison you give though. Black level set to low for both? PS3 RGB set to limited? What happens if you pop the same blu ray into the X800? Is there a difference between the standard blu ray between each player?

[HDTV1080P]

The Sony UBP-X800 is now on sale again at retail stores and mail order companies for only $149.99 plus free shipping from places like B and H Photo until November 18th at 11:59PM eastern time. Then these players go back to around $198 in theory until maybe $149.99 once again for Black Friday weekend. $149.99 appears to be the absolute lowest price for the year 2017 on this model. This is half off the retail list price of $299.99, and I am thinking about maybe purchasing a couple of these players for gifts for family members even though these players do not have Dolby Vision HDR. This is a much cheaper price then the $549 OPPO UDP-203 with Dolby Vision HDR, and the bedrooms these would be going in would be connected to only 1080P displays with no HDR. If I ever did upgrade the displays to 4K Ultra HD I could always purchase a new 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player later on that offers Dolby Vision HDR. I will need to purchase a USB stick to use BD-LIVE since there is no 1GB of internal persistent storage on this Sony. I also hate there is not a rear USB port, I would end up getting a USB extension cord that sticks out the front most likely.


Also some people with projectors or older flat panel screens need to purchase a Roku Ultra for around $100 for Netflix and VUDU streaming if they go with the OPPO UDP-203/UDP-205 since there is no streaming built in. Sony has built in 4K Ultra HD streaming apps.

https://www.sony.com/electronics/blu-ray-disc-players/ubp-x800/buy

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1317680-REG/sony_ubp_x800_4k_ultra_hsd_blu_ray.html

[cochon]

Originally Posted by epicfilmguys

I posted this on the previous page, and received no response. Would REALLY appreciate some input

I have a question I hope a number of you can answer. I have been using the XBOX One S for the last year or so for my UHD 4K Blu-ray player. I am debating on upgrading to the X800 due to the price being so low. Those that have witness both players, is there any significant difference in picture quality or HDR? I want an all around better player, but I just need some insight from someone that can provide details.

Thanks!

Probably most people reading this thread had no opportunity to see both side by side thus the lack of response.

If you look through the forum there are a couple of threads specifically discussing the xbox and lots of people seem to think that as a movie player it leaves a lot to be desired when compared to players like this one.

For UHD I only have the Sony some features are lacking but I can't imagine getting a much better picture than what I am at the moment and at this price (is now back at $149 in the US) is hard to resist. I would consider the Panasonic too. I see the Oppo as a very good player but not such a great value for money option and I when it comes to players I prefer to avoid the LG or Samsung.

[cochon]

Originally Posted by Cortiz

I have the X1000es which is essentially the same player, and it has a screen saver that you can enable/disable on the player's "system settings" menu.

Could you please confirm if that player was bought in the US?

[cochon]

Originally Posted by Kenbar

Thanks guy's. Maybe I am expecting to much. Thought everything 4K would look like the demo stuff I see at BB...only maybe even better coming off a disc. I'll fiddle with the settings some more...try a bit of fine tuning here N there. Maybe I just haven't spent enough time adjusting it.

Not all 4k discs are stunning some of them are even a bit lame offering very little improvement. I think from the ones I have Angels and Demons is probably the best I have, Wonder woman and Labyrinth are very good for most of the picture. I understand John Wick is very good but thats second hand news as I only have the regular BD that has great PQ.

[Blu Balls]

Originally Posted by Brahby

So your standard settings are pretty similar to mine. My contrast is down a bit and I keep my color at 50 and normal. I know there is a youtube video that states normal is the correct choice for accuracy. I actually just got Baby Driver the other day and it was an instant regret in terms of presentation. It was not a good looking 4k film to me. Still shouldnt give the comparison you give though. Black level set to low for both? PS3 RGB set to limited? What happens if you pop the same blu ray into the X800? Is there a difference between the standard blu ray between each player?

Yes, I have Black level set to low. Color at 50 on Normal is similar to Wide on 42. Sometimes I change it to normal if what I'm watching looks too hot or over saturated. Not sure about the PS3 settings, but the picture on PS3 and the X800 look great with blu rays. The PS3 has a tad sharper look, but the X800 has deeper blacks and richer colors. They both look great though.

[Sooner_Blu]

Originally Posted by Kenbar

Thanks guy's. Maybe I am expecting to much. Thought everything 4K would look like the demo stuff I see at BB...only maybe even better coming off a disc. I'll fiddle with the settings some more...try a bit of fine tuning here N there. Maybe I just haven't spent enough time adjusting it.

I agree with you. It's been less than a week since I bought this player, so I'm still trying to find the optimum tweaks. I played parts of 2 blu-rays, The Amazing Spiderman and Quantum of Solace, during the week and the upscaling looked great.
However, X-Men Apocalypse in 4k was not what I was expecting. It looked good, but did not pop out, more so, than the 2 blu's. I have only 1 more 4k, Labyrinth, which I am going to watch tonight. Mine is connected to a Samsung KS8000 set.

[HDTV1080P]

The higher end Sony UBP-X1000ES with a list price of $698 is on sale for $598 now with free shipping. However the OPPO UDP-203 for $549 is a much better player with 7.1 analog audio outputs, 1Gbps networking, and two rear USB 3.0 jacks.

The Sony UBP-X1000ES and Sony UBP-X800 have the exact same picture and sound quality, and the only major differences is that the Sony UBP-X1000ES has a front LCD display, RS-232C jack, IR remote jack, optical audio output, 2 channel analog audio output, and detachable higher quality AC power jack. At $598, which is around $450 more in price compared to the Sony UBP-X800, that is not enough features for most consumers to justify the huge price difference. For most consumers that want SACD and DVD-Audio playback from a 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player they are either going to choose the OPPO UDP-203 for $549 or the Sony UDP-X800 for as low as $149.99.

[gnj1958]

Originally Posted by Kenbar

Thanks guy's. Maybe I am expecting to much. Thought everything 4K would look like the demo stuff I see at BB...

Most of the stuff they show at BB is nature promos etc. No movie is going to look like that. No matter how big the number before the K is you are always going to be limited by the source material.

I think advertising 4K as "four times sharper than HDTV" is giving people expectations that won't be met.

[cochon]

Originally Posted by gnj1958

I think advertising 4K as "four times sharper than HDTV" is giving people expectations that won't be met.

The claim is absolutely true, you are just being let down by content producers. There are good sources out there but lots of disc are really just 2k which is very similar to HD, that is just one of the many problems.

Same thing happens to HD, lots of the sources are marketed as HD because they have the pixels to fill an HD screen but that doesn't mean you get the quality the standard can deliver. How many Blurays where re-issued after some terrible BD where sold?

[Cortiz]

Originally Posted by cochon

Could you please confirm if that player was bought in the US?

Sorry, i made a mistake. It doesn't have screen saver either. I was thinking about my old BD player.


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[HDTV1080P]

Sony UBP-X800 BD-LIVE and attachment of a external USB drive

The Sony UBP-X800 does not have a minimum of 1GB of internal storage that is needed for BD-LIVE (This feature is found on the OPPO UDP-203), therefore an external USB drive needs to be connected to use BD-LIVE. The Sony UBP-X800 has a front USB 2.0 port for connection to an external USB hard drive or USB flash drive. This is used for BD-LIVE streaming/downloading, and some consumers play their homemade family music and family video files from a USB drive.

Since a high-end external 2TB hard drive costs around $115 (I have one connected to my OPPO UDP-203), most people that purchase the Sony UBP-X800 for only $149.99 are not going to want to spend $115+ on a high-end 2TB or larger hard drive to play BD-LIVE streaming movie trailers, especially since only Universal Studios and a select few other studios are still using the BD-LIVE feature. Therefore, the other alternative which costs less is to get a 64GB USB 3.0 flash drive which is also backwards compatible with USB 2.0. There is no rear USB port on the back of the Sony UBP-X800, therefore the average USB stick will look very ugly sticking out of the front of the Sony player. I was going to purchase a USB extension cable with a high-end USB 3.0 flash stick, however even USB extension cables look ugly. Then I came across a fairly new product from SanDisk which was released back in February of 2016. It’s called the SanDisk Ultra Fit USB 3.0 flash drive that can handle speeds up to 150MB/s read with a capacity up to 128GB.

I have not tested this SanDisk Ultra fit USB 3.0 flash drive on the Sony UDP-X800 yet, but cosmetically this low cost drive will look very good in the front of the player. If one goes to the Amazon website and types in the following model number “SDCZ43-064G-GAM46”, the 64GB version is selling for only $18.99. The 128GB version is selling for $37.99 and the 32GB version sells for $12.99 (The 16GB version is a slower drive and not the same specs when it comes to speed). The SanDisk Ultra Fit 64GB version is the best value at its current online price of $18.99. This should be more than enough space for BD-LIVE for both old and new Blu-ray titles. Its nice to see the latest movie trailers from studios like Universal Studios when a Blu-ray disc is inserted.

I have not tested this USB flash drive yet. Some USB flash drives come with Windows software that needs to be erased, and some Blu-ray players (mostly older models) need to have the USB drive re-formatted to work properly with BD-LIVE. The main reason to use this flash drive over another model is its super small size which will look cosmetically good compared to the average size USB 3.0 flash drive.


I forgot to mention you also need a USB drive for Blu-ray discs that use the resume play feature and to store bookmarks. Also once and awhile some Blu-ray titles do not load or work properly without the USB drive.

[gnj1958]

Originally Posted by cochon

The claim is absolutely true, you are just being let down by content producers. There are good sources out there but lots of disc are really just 2k which is very similar to HD, that is just one of the many problems.

Same thing happens to HD, lots of the sources are marketed as HD because they have the pixels to fill an HD screen but that doesn't mean you get the quality the standard can deliver. How many Blurays where re-issued after some terrible BD where sold?

Doesn't matter. If you take a blurry picture and show it at 1080p it will be blurry. If you show it 2K it will be blurry. If you show it at native 4K it will still be blurry. You could show it at 5000K it will still be blurry.

[540Blue]

Originally Posted by Brahby

Two questions I didnt see answers to anywhere yet: are you getting the HDR notification bubble when you put a UHD disc in? Are you sure the the HDMI cable you have is rated for 4K AND HDR. It is my understanding (someone correct me if I’m wrong) but a standard hdmi cable could transmit 4K but a high speed hdmi cable was needed for HDR due to the increased bandwidth needed for the 10 bit signal.

Where does the HDR bubble pop up? Just got this player and haven't had a chance to watch anything in 4k yet.

[Cortiz]

You will also need a USB flash for resume playback, specially older Warner Bros BD's like Inception and Lord of the Rings. Also, you won't be able to save bookmarks without a flash drive. SONY should have provided a USB port on the back of the player. Their old players had it.


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[cochon]

Originally Posted by gnj1958

Doesn't matter. If you take a blurry picture and show it at 1080p it will be blurry. If you show it 2K it will be blurry. If you show it at native 4K it will still be blurry. You could show it at 5000K it will still be blurry.

Have you actually read my post? It doesn't look like.

[cochon]

Originally Posted by 540Blue

Where does the HDR bubble pop up? Just got this player and haven't had a chance to watch anything in 4k yet.

I think he is referring to a particular info bubble that appears on their brand of tv but if you want this player to show what signal is sending, press display on the remote and if the signal is HDR will show that, if you are playing an HDR disc but for some reason is not playing righ it will show HDR>SDR which means it is being downgraded.

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by gnj1958

Doesn't matter. If you take a blurry picture and show it at 1080p it will be blurry. If you show it 2K it will be blurry. If you show it at native 4K it will still be blurry. You could show it at 5000K it will still be blurry.

An HDR bubble will appear on the right upper corner of the TV screen, when an HDR signal is detected. The same goes for Dolby Vision.

[mysticwaterfall]

Originally Posted by Cortiz

You will also need a USB flash for resume playback, specially older Warner Bros BD's like Inception and Lord of the Rings. Also, you won't be able to save bookmarks without a flash drive. SONY should have provided a USB port on the back of the player. Their old players had it.


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Bookmarks I can agree with, but I've resumed a lot of discs just fine with no usb inserted.