Sony UBP-X800 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by mar3o

Agreed. I'm sick of these penny-saving feature cuts to these premium players. Next year watch - they'll drop the 2nd HDMI port, making it a requirement to have a 4k A/V receiver. They already dropped the front display instead of just giving us a menu option to dim or turn it off as desired. And no buttons on the player itself. Lots of cheap penny-saving cuts that people would gladly pay another $20 for.

All UHD players should have both front and back USB ports. Back for the very purpose you described - permanent data storage, and front to easily plug in a thumb drive for file playback.

+1. Couldn't agree more.

[LordoftheRings]

@ only $150 on sale I don't mind giving up a rear USB jack, and that the one on the front doesn't allow the door to be closed when a USB stick is inserted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z2Y...ature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbhE...ature=youtu.be

Neither do I mind @ all giving up a play and stop buttons, a front panel display.
This premium player is so affordable that its compromises are extremely minimal.
Where it counts the most, connected to your TV, with the picture quality, smooth and quick operation, ... tra-la-la movies and music and apps ... @ only hundred- fifty bucks ... zero complaint for a first generation Sony Universal UHD 4K/3D Blu-ray player...none, nada, zip, nil, absolutely zero.

My opinion.

[LordoftheRings]

Is it perfect for only $150? Almost; for $100 It would be more than perfect.

But then, which player is perfect today? No one, nobody, not a single player.
Best is to have several for all the functions we use in real life.

For some folks it is the Sony 800, for others it is the Oppo 205, for me it's both.
Some people love their Panasonic 900 mated with their front projectors, which was also on sale recently.

No matter how you cut it all; if you have a 4K TV, the Sony 800 4K Blu-ray player is a heck of a good player for only $150 ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[Cortiz]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

@ only $150 on sale I don't mind giving up a rear USB jack, and that the one on the front doesn't allow the door to be closed when a USB stick is inserted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z2Y...ature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbhE...ature=youtu.be

Neither do I mind @ all giving up a play and stop buttons, a front panel display.
This premium player is so affordable that its compromises are extremely minimal.
Where it counts the most, connected to your TV, with the picture quality, smooth and quick operation, ... tra-la-la movies and music and apps ... @ only hundred- fifty bucks ... zero complaint for a first generation Sony Universal UHD 4K/3D Blu-ray player...none, nada, zip, nil, absolutely zero.

My opinion.

I have the X1000es which way more expensive than the X800 and still did not get a USB on the back. Sony is just being cheap....


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[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Cortiz

I have the X1000es which way more expensive than the X800 and still did not get a USB on the back. Sony is just being cheap....

Ok, that I agree; Sony is being real cheap with their Elevated Standard premium model (ES).
For the premium price asked Sony shouldn't rip their customers off.
Then, might as well get the Oppo 203, or 205.

Why didn't you get the X800 model instead; what was/were the features you valued extra more over the X800 with the X1000ES model, if you don't mind me asking, Cortiz?

[Cortiz]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Ok, that I agree; Sony is being real cheap with their Elevated Standard premium model (ES).
For the premium price asked Sony shouldn't rip their customers off.
Then, might as well get the Oppo 203, or 205.

Why didn't you get the X800 model instead; what was/were the features you valued extra more over the X800 with the X1000ES model, if you don't mind me asking, Cortiz?

To be honest, no front display is a deal breaker for me. I’ve always had/liked Sony and wanted to keep all my gear Sony so i went with the X1000es. By the way, i also have the Oppo


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[DJR662]

Originally Posted by Cortiz

To be honest, no front display is a deal breaker for me. I’ve always had/liked Sony and wanted to keep all my gear Sony so i went with the X1000es.

This could be me talking, word for word.

Unfortunately the X1000ES is not available here so I went with the X800.

[LordoftheRings]

I respect that, even if my main player is behind me and I could not see it.
All players have a front panel display; by removing it Sony wasn't thinking about front projector owners, the type who don't see any of their video components, neither their audio units.
Sony simply discarded what they considered irrelevant and put the mustard where it relishes the most impact; in their video chip processor and solid build player so that the new more fragile 4K discs can spin with aplomb and without being affected by the multiple subwoofers thundering in unison. ...My thinking.

A front panel display is cool, and a Sony X800 without one for only $150 is cool too.
The level of coolness for each one of us is a very personal decision, taste, use.

In my own personal use and experience; I use zero percent the information provided by all my disc spinners front panel displays.
All my Sony players are set automatically to play each disc format according to my personal taste.
It works ... magic.
And say I want to change from stereo to multichannel from hybrid SACDs and DVD-Audio and Blu-ray Audio, I just press the remote control button on my programmed universal Harmony remote control.
And for movies there is no problem; I can see what's going on on my screen.
This is me, and my personal use about front panel displays from all my disk spinners in real life @ home that I'm sharing.

[cochon]

I don't remember if it was in this thread or another that people were asking but I've just received my US x800 and can confirm that is unable to play PAL content, that includes PAL DVDs regardless of whether they are region locked or not.

[Cortiz]

Originally Posted by cochon

I don't remember if it was in this thread or another that people were asking but I've just received my US x800 and can confirm that is unable to play PAL content, that includes PAL DVDs regardless of whether they are region locked or not.

My X1000 can play PAL. But not region locked discs.


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[cochon]

Originally Posted by Cortiz

My X1000 can play PAL. But not region locked discs.


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And that is a US player, right?

Its not a great deal for me as I want it mainly for BD and UHD. I thought there woudn't be any problem but there is as I've tried a lot of Pal DVD including at least one marked as multiregion but still is a no go.

[eddievanhalen]

Originally Posted by cochon

And that is a US player, right?

Its not a great deal for me as I want it mainly for BD and UHD. I thought there woudn't be any problem but there is as I've tried a lot of Pal DVD including at least one marked as multiregion but still is a no go.

What does it do when you try to play a region free Pal DVD? It just doesn't play it and display some info on the T.V. display? Or does it eject the disc? This seems so old school VHS times when despite being the same tape format VHS were incompatible between T.V. systems.
I really don't understand this restriction coming from Sony as my European (bought in Spain) Sony X-800 can play both Pal and NTSC DVDs and BDs with 50 and 60 Hz content. The hardware is capable, why cut the playability off?

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by cochon

Apparently not because it won't take much effort to find posters on this board that just keep complaining about spending money.

That's their own choice. There are plenty of people that will spend another $20 bill to get a rear USB port, front display, illuminated remote buttons, etc.

Seriously, $8 remotes in Walmart are illuminated now. But a $300 player can't include a $1 LED in the remote?

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by eddievanhalen

What does it do when you try to play a region free Pal DVD? It just doesn't play it and display some info on the T.V. display? Or does it eject the disc? This seems so old school VHS times when despite being the same tape format VHS were incompatible between T.V. systems.
I really don't understand this restriction coming from Sony as my European (bought in Spain) Sony X-800 can play both Pal and NTSC DVDs and BDs with 50 and 60 Hz content. The hardware is capable, why cut the playability off?

Very frustrating indeed. There's no need to make all these restrictions. None. My LG UHD $1,600 TV can't display PAL either, yet my old Samsungs could and my girlfriend's family's $300 Vizio from 5 years ago can, as well as their cheapo LG player. I bought them Planet Earth II last Christmas on blu-ray from the UK and they can play it fine, yet my equipment cost 6 times as much as theirs and I can't play it. Stupid.

[cochon]

Originally Posted by eddievanhalen

What does it do when you try to play a region free Pal DVD? It just doesn't play it and display some info on the T.V. display? Or does it eject the disc? This seems so old school VHS times when despite being the same tape format VHS were incompatible between T.V. systems.
I really don't understand this restriction coming from Sony as my European (bought in Spain) Sony X-800 can play both Pal and NTSC DVDs and BDs with 50 and 60 Hz content. The hardware is capable, why cut the playability off?

No it does not eject it it just tell me the player can't play that video format. The VHS issue was more a problem of different standars from different countries that never bother in standardizing. By the end of it's days there were lots of VHS machines that could play anything.

This is not quite the same Sony is to blame but so are most other manufacturers when selling in the US. Like if the aren't enough restrictions with the zones you also have this to deal with this. You are right it is basically an artificial limitation.

I have two, my other Australian x800 like yours plays NTSC and 60hz too, I just wanted a plain US version. Now that I've got it I discovered that but it will still serve the purpose well.

Some people in the US were asking about it because when they get European discs they can't play PAL videos on lots of players and tvs. Fortunately it does not affect BD or UHD but it could affect their special features sometimes might not be playable.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by eddievanhalen

What does it do when you try to play a region free Pal DVD? It just doesn't play it and display some info on the T.V. display? Or does it eject the disc? This seems so old school VHS times when despite being the same tape format VHS were incompatible between T.V. systems.
I really don't understand this restriction coming from Sony as my European (bought in Spain) Sony X-800 can play both Pal and NTSC DVDs and BDs with 50 and 60 Hz content. The hardware is capable, why cut the playability off?

Fear? ...Of losing money, of being sued, ...

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by cochon

I don't remember if it was in this thread or another that people were asking but I've just received my US x800 and can confirm that is unable to play PAL content, that includes PAL DVDs regardless of whether they are region locked or not.

Have you updated the firmware?

[slimdude]

Generally people who buys 4K blu-ray players, buy them to play UHD blu-rays with HDR and Dolby Vision.

[cochon]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Have you updated the firmware?

I have on the AUS but on the US player I haven't, it has M36.R0175, Judging by your question I presume that will add the capability. I was planning to do it over the weekend but i"ll try tomorrow. If it doesn't fix it is not a big deal, I don't generally watch many DVD's or extras and I still have other native pal players.

[cochon]

Originally Posted by slimdude

Generally people who buys 4K blu-ray players, buy them to play UHD blu-rays with HDR and Dolby Vision.

True but on top of DVDs some of the extras for people who import multi region BD discs from Europe come in low definition PAL and if the player can't access that you only get to watch the main feature. That's the reason you often see the question pop up, it also happens with some TVs that can't play 50hz.