Sony UBP-X800 4K UHD Blu-ray player - Page 168 - Blu-ray Forum

Snikt · 03-26-2018, 04:49 PM

Guys, I'm having a problem and I can't seem to fix it. I have this player hooked up directly to my Samsung UN55JU7100 with HDMI 1 and use HDMI 2 to my Samsung HT-H7730 home theatre system.

My problem is when I set the output resolution to auto or original and turn off the 4K upscaling, my A/V sync is off.

But when I turn on the 4K upscaling or set it to a fixed resolution of 4K, the audio is fine, but then I lose picture quality. It's not as detailed and seems out of focus. Not by a lot, but it's enough to notice when switching between upscaled 4K and original resolution.

Can anybody help me? Thanks guys!

JohnnyFontane · 03-26-2018, 05:33 PM

does upscaling blu-rays cause dnr?

Snikt · 03-26-2018, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFontane

does upscaling blu-rays cause dnr?

Yes, but I have it on the "Direct" setting under video settings.

Snikt · 03-26-2018, 09:20 PM

I'm honestly lost here guys. The picture quality shouldn't be worse when upscaling to 4K, it should look better.

And if I alter the A/V sync, then the a/v sync is off when playing normal 4K blu-rays. Maybe I should consider buying a different 4K Blu-ray player.

LordoftheRings · 03-27-2018, 02:21 AM

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Snikt · 03-27-2018, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

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I remember reading this article. Main reason I went with this player. But honestly, regular blu-rays look very soft and blurry now when unconverted. This article even says they looks amazing. Mine do not. I actually switched back to my old Sony blu-ray player. Blu-rays look better on it than they do on the x800

andantelise · 03-27-2018, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RustinCohle

See the thing is, I’m mostly just curious if DV really looks that much better. The only thing I’ve watched in DV is the new season of Black Mirror streamed through Netflix and it didn’t exactly blow me away, but I didn’t have anything to compare it to.

My X800, now that I’ve tweaked a few of the settings, plays flawlessly. The only ‘downfall’ is that it doesn’t have DV. However, I’ve never watched a disc with DV so I don’t know what the big deal is. I guess it would be cool to have just to see what it’s like, but for $500 (when my $150 player plays great) I don’t NEED it.

What settings are you using, if you don't mind my asking.

I have output to 4K, fps-24,direct, and upscaling off. I'm not sure if I'm missing anything...

HD Goofnut · 03-27-2018, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by andantelise

What settings are you using, if you don't mind my asking.

I have output to 4K, fps-24,direct, and upscaling off. I'm not sure if I'm missing anything...

Yep, that's exactly what I have.

Lucy Diamond · 03-28-2018, 03:26 PM

I'm watching Lego reviews on youtube and getting ready to hit Paradise City \m/,

GohanX · 03-28-2018, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy Diamond

getting ready to hit Paradise City \m/,

I hear that the grass is green and the girls are pretty.

kurtlingle · 03-28-2018, 04:42 PM

So, is there anyone who is buying 4k UHD's to use in this player but only has a 1080p TV/projector?

If I buy this player, and play my UHD's (so far bought 4 of them), but output as 1080p, is there any improvement?

My long term goal is to get a 4k projector, but looks like this year is a bust for that. But, I started buying the discs for all new BD's (SW9, Thor, Justice League, etc).

Anyone already doing this?

Matthew_Thunder · 03-28-2018, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kurtlingle

My long term goal is to get a 4k projector, but looks like this year is a bust for that. But, I started buying the discs for all new BD's (SW9, Thor, Justice League, etc).

Anyone already doing this?

Buying 4K discs before proper hardware is bought? Sure!

HD Goofnut · 03-28-2018, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kurtlingle

So, is there anyone who is buying 4k UHD's to use in this player but only has a 1080p TV/projector?

If I buy this player, and play my UHD's (so far bought 4 of them), but output as 1080p, is there any improvement?

My long term goal is to get a 4k projector, but looks like this year is a bust for that. But, I started buying the discs for all new BD's (SW9, Thor, Justice League, etc).

Anyone already doing this?

I didn't get a 4K display until June of 2017 and a player until December. However, I started buying UHD releases Summer of 2016.

PCFan · 03-29-2018, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew_Thunder

Buying 4K discs before proper hardware is bought? Sure!

I only consider it a waste of money if a person buys a 4k disc but only has a normal blu-ray player and does not a have a 4k TV and only buys the movie just to watch once then resells it before the person owns 4k hardware.

PCFan · 03-29-2018, 12:25 AM

Is the X800 worth the extra money over the X700 because of the construction quality even though there is no future DV support on the X800? I think that the X700 is too cheap looking.

Nothing371 · 03-29-2018, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PCFan

Is the X800 worth the extra money over the X700 because of the construction quality even though there is no future DV support on the X800? I think that the X700 is too cheap looking.

The x800 has a better build quality but it's weight is in metal plating. It's just casing to make the machine heavier. So it runs more silently. But the x700 is newer and will be Dolby Vision compatible in time. If you're looking at getting a new player today for the first time then you probably want to look into getting the x700. But it will probably make more noise when the disc spins and have some quality control issues of its own since its a newer model.

I have an x800 and I love it. However my first one had all sorts of problems so I had to exchange it. The new one has been working flawlessly. Really happy with the performance of this machine. I bought it (kept it) knowing that I'd have to get yet another new machine in the future in order to play DV discs. But that was a couple months ago. It's probably time to consider getting the x700 unless your setup won't have DV.

PCFan · 03-29-2018, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nothing371

The x800 has a better build quality but it's weight is in metal plating. It's just casing to make the machine heavier. So it runs more silently. But the x700 is newer and will be Dolby Vision compatible in time. If you're looking at getting a new player today for the first time then you probably want to look into getting the x700. But it will probably make more noise when the disc spins and have some quality control issues of its own since its a newer model.

I have an x800 and I love it. However my first one had all sorts of problems so I had to exchange it. The new one has been working flawlessly. Really happy with the performance of this machine. I bought it (kept it) knowing that I'd have to get yet another new machine in the future in order to play DV discs. But that was a couple months ago. It's probably time to consider getting the x700 unless your setup won't have DV.

I don't have a 4k TV yet. I'm in no rush to buy a 4K TV. If I'm going to get a 4k TV, I want to get one that supports both HDR and DV. 1080p TV's 40" and larger seem to be getting phased out to ones that are 4k and so I know my next TV will be a 4k one. I just don't think that at this point in time I should consider a normal blu-ray player.

jibucha · 03-29-2018, 02:22 AM

yes :: "if Dolby Vision does not interest you"

Dolby Vision :: if it interests you (look elsewhere)

note :: i have both the Sony UBP-X800 and LG UP970 (two each) :: conclusion? (Sony = quality build & audio) - (LG - picture quality; especially Dolby Vision) - (Sony UBP-X700 - many 'unknowns')

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Originally Posted by PCFan

Is the X800 worth the extra money over the X700 because of the construction quality even though there is no future DV support on the X800? I think that the X700 is too cheap looking.

GohanX · 03-29-2018, 02:35 AM

I just unpacked my X800. It does certainly feel like a nice piece of kit and unlike most of the current players it stacks nicely with other equipment. Haven't had a chance to really mess with it though other than setting it up and running the test patterns to adjust my TV since it's a bit darker than my Xbone.

guitaristguy313 · 03-29-2018, 05:34 AM

Anyone having issues with The Last Jedi 4K crashing their player?

03-28-2018, 04:42 PM	#3351
kurtlingle Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:82	So, is there anyone who is buying 4k UHD's to use in this player but only has a 1080p TV/projector? If I buy this player, and play my UHD's (so far bought 4 of them), but output as 1080p, is there any improvement? My long term goal is to get a 4k projector, but looks like this year is a bust for that. But, I started buying the discs for all new BD's (SW9, Thor, Justice League, etc). Anyone already doing this? Last edited by kurtlingle; 03-28-2018 at 06:04 PM.

03-26-2018, 04:49 PM	#3341
Snikt Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2008 4K collection:206 Blu-ray collection:438 Trading Score:3	Guys, I'm having a problem and I can't seem to fix it. I have this player hooked up directly to my Samsung UN55JU7100 with HDMI 1 and use HDMI 2 to my Samsung HT-H7730 home theatre system. My problem is when I set the output resolution to auto or original and turn off the 4K upscaling, my A/V sync is off. But when I turn on the 4K upscaling or set it to a fixed resolution of 4K, the audio is fine, but then I lose picture quality. It's not as detailed and seems out of focus. Not by a lot, but it's enough to notice when switching between upscaled 4K and original resolution. Can anybody help me? Thanks guys!

03-26-2018, 05:33 PM	#3342
JohnnyFontane Member Member since:Nov 2012 Location:Chicago	does upscaling blu-rays cause dnr?

03-26-2018, 09:20 PM	#3344
Snikt Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2008 4K collection:206 Blu-ray collection:438 Trading Score:3	I'm honestly lost here guys. The picture quality shouldn't be worse when upscaling to 4K, it should look better. And if I alter the A/V sync, then the a/v sync is off when playing normal 4K blu-rays. Maybe I should consider buying a different 4K Blu-ray player.

03-27-2018, 02:21 AM	#3345
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	☆ https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbes-...1#5432c9d46342

03-28-2018, 03:26 PM	#3349
Lucy Diamond Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2008 Location:The Tomb of Annihilation 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:3	I'm watching Lego reviews on youtube and getting ready to hit Paradise City \m/,

03-29-2018, 12:25 AM	#3355
PCFan Expert Member Member since:Oct 2008 Trading Score:202	Is the X800 worth the extra money over the X700 because of the construction quality even though there is no future DV support on the X800? I think that the X700 is too cheap looking.

03-29-2018, 02:35 AM	#3359
GohanX Active Member Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Burlington, NC 4K collection:16 Blu-ray collection:337	I just unpacked my X800. It does certainly feel like a nice piece of kit and unlike most of the current players it stacks nicely with other equipment. Haven't had a chance to really mess with it though other than setting it up and running the test patterns to adjust my TV since it's a bit darker than my Xbone.

03-29-2018, 05:34 AM	#3360
guitaristguy313 Active Member Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Oregon 4K collection:49 Blu-ray collection:353 Trading Score:6	Anyone having issues with The Last Jedi 4K crashing their player?

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